Author Topic: Interesting experiment with Meyer's type cell. (Read 6800 times)

Bruce_TPU · « **on:** May 05, 2007, 07:55:56 PM »

My true interest is HHO. I am working on SM's TPU, because my HHO cells need more power.

While working on Sound frequency today on the TPU, I decided to drop a mini underwater speaker into my experimental rig with a Myers type cell. (6" in length, ss 3/8" center tube with ss 1/2" outer pipe.

At 20K hz sound (as high as my sound card gets) there was a DEFINITE increase in gas production. This increase was visible and noticable. I did this many many times to verify.

When I get a real sound freq. generator in about two weeks, I will continue experimenting along these lines, along with the TPU. I want to amplify the sound through a tube circuit and into a mini underwater speaker and play with differant High frequencies. I wanted to tell you guys about this, because I think there is some potential here. I have not tried it on plate cells as of yet.

Thank you for your time,
Bruce

Paul-R · « **Reply #1 on:** May 06, 2007, 03:49:37 PM »

John Worrell Keely reckoned on 42.8 Mhz as a crucial
frequency. Miles out of the range of a sound card,
obviously. But there will be an octave lower down that
will be worth trying, to be found by halving the frequency
repeatedly:
http://peswiki.com/index.php/PowerPedia:John_Keely

Are you sure that you are not simply shaking the bubbles
off the plates?
Paul.

pese · « **Reply #2 on:** May 06, 2007, 04:53:33 PM »

Quote from: Paul-R on May 06, 2007, 03:49:37 PM

John Worrell Keely reckoned on 42.8 Mhz as a crucial
frequency. Miles out of the range of a sound card,
obviously. But there will be an octave lower down that
will be worth trying, to be found by halving the frequency
repeatedly:
http://peswiki.com/index.php/PowerPedia:John_Keely

Are you sure that you are not simply shaking the bubbles
off the plates?
Paul.

Give attention on the frequency !!

Peswiki say:

Exploding water with 42712.2Hz

This are : 42,72122 Khz !!!

You can (double? or) triple the frequnzy from soundcard

PESE

Bruce_TPU · « **Reply #3 on:** May 07, 2007, 04:07:56 AM »

Quote from: Paul-R on May 06, 2007, 03:49:37 PM

Are you sure that you are not simply shaking the bubbles
off the plates?
Paul.

Great info about Keely! Thank you. I am not sure if it is vibrating the bubbles off the tube capacitor (no plates) or not. Even if it is, it still furthers production somewhat. BUT none of the bubbles on the outside of the outer stainless pipe (1/2 stainless 6" nipple) moved. Wouldn't it be amazing if sound could be used to further weaken the convalent bond of the water, thus allow for greater production with the same amount of electricity? Just thinking aloud.

pese,
How can I double or triple my laptops sound card frequency range? This would be VERY helpful for all of my experiment. Thank you in advance pese!

pese · « **Reply #4 on:** May 07, 2007, 10:47:26 AM »

http://www.tpub.com/content/neets/14181/css/14181_95.htm HERE

http://www.tpub.com/content/neets/14181/css/14181_65.htm Overview = Oscillator

www.stormloader.com/members/pese/liLIST.html click to science

G Pes?

Give attention 42 Khz not Mhz !!!
Very big Difference

Bruce_TPU · « **Reply #5 on:** May 08, 2007, 04:49:17 AM »

Thank you pese!

Okay, last night after work I ran two simple experiments. I wanted to know for sure that my eyes were not playing tricks on me.

Experiment #1

1 water fuel cell with a dc switched voltage supply (1vdc-12vdc).
Sound frequency from laptop set at the highest, 20K hz. to an underwater speaker
volts 2.666
Amps .96
total power 2.5 watts

Gas produced in 1 minute, using a stopwatch
12.5 ml
Faraday efficiency 78%
2.78 w/lph
unity is 2.16 w/lph

Experiment #2
NO sound frequency applied
volts 2.6
Amps 1.04
Power 2.71 watts

Gas produced in 1 minute = 6 ml

To date, using a Meyers type cell, the best efficiency I have ever obtained was 55% efficiency. (2.16/my watts to produce liter per hour = efficiency percentage)

Conclusion of first set of experiments:
Sound Frequency DOUBLED production.

My next set of experiments will be with much higher current.

Thank you for your time,
Bruce

Paul-R · « **Reply #6 on:** May 08, 2007, 10:48:18 PM »

Quote from: pese on May 06, 2007, 04:53:33 PM

Quote from: Paul-R on May 06, 2007, 03:49:37 PM
John Worrell Keely reckoned on 42.8 Mhz as a crucial
frequency. Miles out of the range of a sound card,
obviously. But there will be an octave lower down that
will be worth trying, to be found by halving the frequency
repeatedly:
http://peswiki.com/index.php/PowerPedia:John_Keely

Are you sure that you are not simply shaking the bubbles
off the plates?
Paul.
Give attention on the frequency !!
Peswiki say:
Exploding water with 42712.2Hz
This are : 42,72122 Khz !!!
You can (double? or) triple the frequnzy from soundcard
PESE

If you halve the frequency 14 times, i.e. go down 14 octaves,
you are at C on the piano or on the first fret on the fifth string
of a guitar. Keely might have suggested 261 herz as a place to
start using a sound card.
http://www.phy.mtu.edu/~suits/notefreqs.html
Paul.

TheOne · « **Reply #7 on:** May 08, 2007, 11:29:57 PM »

a good sound card can be able to do 48 and 96kHz but the onboard from computer are usually able to do up to 44.1khz

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