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Bessler007

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Re: New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.c
« Reply #675 on: December 28, 2008, 09:21:34 AM »
Hello Unity2zero,

You make some very good points.

If I get a directive to launch the black helicopters I'll know he has a working idea.  So far nothing.



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Why still all the delays ?

Has somebody finally from the forum living near Bob has visited him and
taken a clear video ?

Our patience is running low now.

Christmas has gone and no news again...

Sad story...

If the word "investors" are involved always greedy people will destroy
the good work...

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Stefan,

One delay may be the same as I have encountered for the last month, that is weather, a lot of us has been hit hard with abnormal wind and ice storms this year.  I for example could not afford to heat my shop as my utility bills for the house more than doubled their normal cost for this time of year. 

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Has somebody finally from the forum living near Bob has visited him and
taken a clear video ?

Bob lives in New Britain a small town near Lindsay Ontario  of approximately 365 people (Wikipedia) he is not that hard to find. His machine however is not believed to be at his residence, but being built in a professional  machine shop of unknown location.

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Our patience is running low now.

Not all of us!  Those who build and have patience, perseverance and persistence shall plod on. I call them the "Doers" We shall continue to design and build, using Bob's basic concept as we know it from postings on the forum  (which IMO is incorrect) or continue with our own designs. Either way it builds incentive, excites innovation and exercises our discerning values.

Note that the longest topics on this forum were started by someone stating  that they were going to announce a runner on a given date. A stupid thing to do, yet it creates the productive peak of people responding, sharing ideas and bringing small groups together to collaborate.   

Those running low on patience are the liberal armchair philosophers who only have the fortitude and ambition to set at their computers and cry "free source" or 'Give me" They show little to no incentive to get off their duff's and do reality research for themselves.     

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Christmas has gone and no news again...Sad story...

True, it is sad that he was not able to give the world a Christmas present. On the other hand, as for trial and error research it is just another day that did not prove to bear fruit. Since my involvement in seeking over-unity in various forms I have seen over 50 such Christmas days pass. It is one day of  the year, I set my wheel pursuit aside and spend with my family.
 
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If the word "investors" are involved always greedy people will destroy  the good work...

Not necessarily, the key word is 'Management' set forth by the patent holder. Investors look forward to an equitable return on their investment. They need not have control over what the net profit will be, if not then I agree that we would end up paying more for PM produced power than we now pay for fossil or hydro based power. For some reason beyond my comprehension the utility companies are charging more for renewable source power yet hydro-electric is not one of  them.

If Tesla had not sold his patents and soul to guys like Westinghouse and JP Morgan we would be living in a different world.

From Wikipedia:
 
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The company pioneered long-distance power transmission and high-voltage transmission. Westinghouse Electric received the rights for the first patent for alternating-current transmission from Nikola Tesla and unveiled the technology for lighting in Great Barrington, Massachusetts.

I say, we simply move on with our lives and give Bob the opportunity to fulfill his premature statement. In the meantime they have been productive by giving me the opportunity to connect with a few of the 'Doers' on this forum.

 If you do not have patience, then you are not an inventor willing to seek outside the box and where others have looked. As Tesla once said about Edison, 'He invents by looking for a needle in a hay stack"

Ralph   

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Re: New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.c
« Reply #678 on: December 29, 2008, 04:43:26 AM »
It is getting cold.  Global warming.  The weather is even changing in hell.

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Perhaps someone is a little weary to prove if his design works.. As God may then swiftly reclaim him once his mission was accomplished? ;-p

Maybe it's time for someone to finish their working design so they can go on a new mission to warm hell back up.  I'm sure every little turd would help.



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Re: New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.c
« Reply #679 on: December 29, 2008, 07:27:48 AM »
Bob's Free Energy Gravity Wheel will most likely ended up like another Australian "Lutec"

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/230/RipOff0230829.htm
http://www.skeptics.com.au/spoon/2001winners.htm

We have Johann Bessler's magical wheels, Steven Mark's TPU, Stanley Meyer's "Water Cell", Edwin V. Gray's Car Engines, John Christie, the Australian Lutec inventor of the magnetic motors, Steorn's free energy devices, Perendev- Motors and many others.


Agreed. Yet another in a long line of deluded inventors and/or scam artists.

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Bob's statement at start of video - 'Uncrank the disk brake'

If you blow up this picture about 200% and look just to the left of the right pillow bearing (blue). You can see a disk rotor, pads and tightening mechanism with a rod going off to the right. You can't see the hand crank but it was out the pic to the right in the video.

Regards, Larry


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Hmmm. I think someone made that observation a while back......:)

"Hi AB,

That's true. But what I think Bob is doing is backing off the brake much farther than necessary just to start the machine. Then, quite clearly in the video, tightening it again to control the speed. In fact, this is what he states in the video.
If he is using the brake as a speed control you would want as fine a control as possible. If the caliper is a scissor-type of caliper this would provide the greatest braking leverage and control and yes, many more turns. So again, no discrepancy.

Maybe Bob will correct me if I'm wrong.

Regards,
Charlie"

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Well, if this is true about the brake, (and I hope it is) that would create heat which is wasted power output with his device.  If he really has to hold it back, why not connect it to a generator, even a small one, that would put the same load on it as the brake?  Of course, maybe he has done that.  I am getting skeptical myself and have been for a while but, and this is the honest truth, I really do still hold out hope that he has actually "done it", and if it turns out that he has, I will be the first one to shake his hand. (Well, maybe not the first....)

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Greetings Charlie, Larry and all

 I haven't post much but I have still been looking in from time to time. I have had my own fish to fry. But Happy New year to everyone.

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Greetings Charlie, Larry and all

 I haven't post much but I have still been looking in from time to time. I have had my own fish to fry. But Happy New year to everyone.

Same here AB, Happy New Years to All. I'm especially happy now after just watching the Chick-Fil-A bowl game with LSU and GT. The neighborhood was quiet before, but is rocking with fireworks after the game. Of course, some of this is due to them dam cows expelling gas and igniting it. Spelling out "Eat Mor Chikin" :D

Regards, Larry

 

 

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Charlie, Larry and all

 I will be busy with my new projects and my living for a few weeks so I won't be posting much until I have succeeded or failed. I hope Bob comes through as well or one of you guys figure it out. ;D

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Charlie, Larry and all

 I will be busy with my new projects and my living for a few weeks so I won't be posting much until I have succeeded or failed. I hope Bob comes through as well or one of you guys figure it out. ;D

AB all the best wishes to you. and all
Keep bringing things forward.

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Hi AB,

Best of luck to you in the new year. We are all waiting patiently for updates from Bob. But please know that there is a lot going on behind the scenes that doesn't necessarily get posted here....at least not yet.

Warm regards,
Charlie

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Thanks Guys

 I have high hopes for Bob but I am not waiting for him. I have one wheel which I am working on a timing problem. Using my finger to manually time it, it ran around 200 rpm but I found it hard to hold on to. When I removed my finger it started swinging all over the place. It when into chaos mode. That is wright I have been working on a way to control chaos and these so far are the results. I am also building another wheel that the math says 2 positive to 1 negative weight with no keel problem, but only the build will tell the whole story. Well that is what is happening on my side of the ever turning quest.

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@All

This is one of Bob's earlier machines, which doesn't have springs on each end like the one in the video and latest picture and the space between the long flat metal plated boards are much wider.
 
If you blow up picture 1 you can see at about 1" to the rear of the large pulley is a flat metal plate with a hole in the center.
 
The bottom of this metal plate is welded to the long square metal tubing that connects the two weights together. 
 
The top of this metal plate is attached to a two section rectangular shaped block. On the bottom section of the rectangular shape, both metal rods from the cylinders are connected. At the top section of the rectangular shape is two tubing connections and one goes to each cylinder.
 
Another tube can be seen at the lower right. It is in between the back side of the unit and the stand. Little else can be seen, but based on other info it is likely coming from the rectangular shaped block to a storage unit to save the force generated by the CF sling capture.
 
If you blow up picture 2 you can see a wrapped bundle of wires at just left of the pillow bearing, which comes from the bushings on the right of the pillow bearing, going thru the pipe then thru the bundle and to the top back of the flat metal plate with the hole in the center. Can't see more, except for three wires on the side of the rectangular shaped block, but it would seem to go to the rectangular shaped block top section and control the release of force into/out the cylinders and storage unit. The bundle would come across and be held at the top back side of the electrical plate by the plastic strap. The bundle seem to go into the air, but keep in mind the bundle would have to loop up and be able to move 1' to either side to get the 2' of weight movement.
 
The bundle is much larger then needed for the three wires from the commutator. So there must be a tube or tubing going to/from the block and into the center pipe thru to the other side and coming out to the storage unit on the other side.
 
At the top left is a clear image of the tubing. Seem to be nylon reinforced. Needed for the extreme flinging around as can be seen at Bob's site video #2, which has the large pulley as shown in the pictures.
 
Also notice the large massive block at the end, which is probably used for momentum assist, while the air pressure fights the lifting. He may not have had the cam and lever at this time. His comment from his post at #456:
 
 "George, a good friend of mine, who was an engineer since 1945 was very interested in what I had done so far and suggested to try the cam and leaver mechanism that I used in the unit in the short clip."


I've included a drawing to assist with the concept.


Regards, Larry

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