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Author Topic: New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.com !  (Read 658086 times)

LarryC

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Re: New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.com !
« Reply #450 on: September 09, 2008, 12:16:30 AM »
@Charlie,

This is the part that threw me and why I embarked off on my new incredibly beautiful but hideously wrong drawing...

Agreed, you do make incredibly beautiful drawings but I'm not sure it was hideously wrong. Maybe partially right on the lever.

I was watching the weather and they said that Ike may track more toward Houston so hopefully it will only skirt your area.

Yes, looking better for us, just finished my Gustav repairs today. But hope Ike goes to a less populated portion of Texas. Makes you wonder, at the current time tens of thousands of homes in south central La. will not have power/services until the beginning of October. Just think, no job, because your employer now has no power, so how many lives would be so much better with Bob K. machine.

Regards, Larry



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noonespecial

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Re: New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.com !
« Reply #451 on: September 09, 2008, 12:24:18 AM »
I've sent off another email to Bob asking for more clarification. I hope he isn't getting tired of my questions. I'll let you know if/when he responds.......
Best regards,
Charlie
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noonespecial

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Re: New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.com !
« Reply #452 on: September 09, 2008, 12:33:59 AM »
Well he just responded. Much quicker than I thought!

I asked how he was able to lift the weights 8" with the 6" end of the lever and he said,

"The dimensions I gave you were approximating. I used 24 inches to explain that the weights only need to be
lifted one half that distance, 12 inches before the centrifugal force does the rest.
The closer to the center the less energy needed to lift the weights.
The rod was the same. I tried to get you to see the amount of force you can generate with a leaver.
The cam starts the process and the rod completes it. As for the dimensions, they differ with the design of each machine.
Hope this helps....................Bob"

Best regards,
Charlie

Larry, would you be open to an off-line email?
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broli

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Re: New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.com !
« Reply #453 on: September 09, 2008, 12:37:45 PM »
"The closer to the center the less energy needed to lift the weights."

What is he exactly talking about here.
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noonespecial

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Re: New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.com !
« Reply #454 on: September 09, 2008, 02:50:48 PM »
Quote from: broli on September 09, 2008, 12:37:45 PM
"The closer to the center the less energy needed to lift the weights."

What is he exactly talking about here.

Hi Broli,
There are 2 weights connected by a rod. One of the weights is located at the outermost circumference of the machine. The other (we assume) is just on the other side of the center. As these weights are rotated, the outer weight falls and drives the machine created by the overbalance condition. Through the use of a cam and a lever, the connected weights are raised up near the bottom of the rotation. The cam and lever need to overcome the centripetal force of the rotating weights. This force is greatest when the weights are at their outermost position. As the weights are raised up toward the center of the machine, the force required to move them up drops off exponentially. Once they are past the equilibrium point (both weights equal distances from the center) the weights travel upward on their own against gravity by centripetal force.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Charlie
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valveman

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Re: New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.com !
« Reply #455 on: September 09, 2008, 09:48:38 PM »
Quote from: noonespecial on September 08, 2008, 05:30:35 AM
Here's my latest concept drawing based on what we know so far. Bob has confirmed that the cam is fixed and works as I thought from 3:30 to around 5:00 then the lever takes over. Larry, you might be able to modify your design in this way.
Best regards,
Charlie

I see a problem with this drawing.  The 10lb weight should be attached to the prybar.  Also Having a return spring takes some of your mechanical 
 advantage away. I'm on the fence as to whether this gravity wheel actually works.  Blame it on my schooling ;O)  I would love to make an appointment to see it working since I don't live very far, but I would have to be invited. 

Robert
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noonespecial

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Re: New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.com !
« Reply #456 on: September 09, 2008, 10:17:30 PM »
Hi Robert,
Don't judge the actual machine by my drawing. This was just a 'best guess' on how it might work and yes, it probably doesn't work this way.
Did you see Bob Kostoff's video? If not, check it out here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lD_65ggChs
Actually, we would be thrilled if you could visit Mr. Kostoff and see it first hand and let us know exactly how it does work.
You can contact him through his website, www.newsourceofenergy.com.
Best regards,
Charlie
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valveman

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Re: New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.com !
« Reply #457 on: September 10, 2008, 12:52:20 AM »
Hi Charlie;

Yes saw the videos and read every reply in this forum.  My comments were not entirely based on your drawing.  BTW:  Nice job on the drawing.  I just never saw a 36" lever with a 10lb weight on it in the videos or pictures.  Kinda hard to hide.  How about those pneumatic rams?  There are springs already to provide shock absorbtion.  I hope this is the real thing but I remain skeptical and I think it is healthy to be skeptical.

Cheers,
Robert
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noonespecial

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Re: New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.com !
« Reply #458 on: September 10, 2008, 01:25:57 AM »
So how far are you from Little Britain? Were you serious about going to see his machine? I don't know if he is open to people seeing it but we could ask.
Thanks,
Charlie
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valveman

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Re: New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.com !
« Reply #459 on: September 10, 2008, 03:49:37 AM »
I live about 100miles from Bob.  He lives near Lindsay (Little Britain) and I live in Kingston Ontario.  I would be happy to go especially on a weekend if this can be arranged.  I'd be happy to report back and take any vids or photos Bob would be will to let me take.

Robert
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4Tesla

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Re: New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.com !
« Reply #460 on: September 10, 2008, 08:21:36 AM »
I hope you can get more close up video of it both running and stopped.  :)

Jason
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noonespecial

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Re: New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.com !
« Reply #461 on: September 10, 2008, 03:07:06 PM »
Hi Robert,
I sent off an email to Bob asking if he would allow someone to come and visit and see the machine. I'll let you know what he says.
Regards,
Charlie
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valveman

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Re: New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.com !
« Reply #462 on: September 11, 2008, 01:55:26 PM »
Charlie let me know if you hear from Bob.  I'd be very interested in meeting him and reviewing his design for the group.

Robert
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noonespecial

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Re: New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.com !
« Reply #463 on: September 11, 2008, 03:25:04 PM »
Hi Robert,
I emailed him on Tuesday and haven't heard back yet. I asked if he would let me know either way so that even if its a 'no', I hope he will write and say so and not leave us hanging. However, he could just be busy so we will have to wait for his response.
Regards,
Charlie

PS- Also, I don't have any special influence with Bob so you might want to contact directly and explain who you are, where you live and why you would like to visit. Make he would be more receptive to a direct contact as opposed to going through a third party. Just a thought.
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Re: New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.com !
« Reply #464 on: September 13, 2008, 05:50:25 AM »
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Here's my latest thinking on Bob's machine including how I believe the air cylinder might be configured. I'm throwing this out here so we can brainstorm any possible changes or obvious things I might have missed or possibly a better way to do it.

Regards,
Charlie

[edit] The center text is poorly worded. It should read "...lift it 8"-9" just past the center point".

Hi Charlie

Nice drawing! But was wondering what are the air cylinders for? Are you proposing external supply of pneumatic energy to the cylinders to move the weights? I thought this is a self rotating gravity powered flywheel?
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