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Author Topic: New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.com !  (Read 454521 times)

Offline Omnibus

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What a disappointment. What can I say? The initial claim was quite different and it doesn't matter whether or not this is a useful device, we were misled. So, as a rule of thumb, anybody who makes videos with OU claims and refuses to cooperate with independent parties to verify these claims should be considered nothing but a joke, to put it mildly. This manipulative behavior is turning into a trend, unfortunately, abusing the wonderful opportunities the internet provides for dissemination of knowledge.

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Offline mscoffman

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Concerning Bob Kostoff's (so called) Gravity Machine

I previously wrote the following in:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/airpoweredvehicles/

See highlighted section below. Russians first saw these
process happen in transformer oil similar to hydraulic fluid.

If this process is what is happening in his device and he doesn't
wish admit to it then his device's development trajectory is going
to follow historical patterns.

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I think that one needs to recognize that the conditions
produced of shock air compression are *exactly* those
conditions required to produce CF Cold Fusion by the
deuterium hydrogen isotopes found in natural water.
This input water could easily come from the humidity
in atmospheric air. Also that the processes that cause
compression fusion in noble gasses as historically used
by the Papp engine could also be taking place in
naturally occurring atmospheric argon.

Rather than play "fight the theoretician", one needs
to recognize there may be processes seen in the
real world that don't immediately correspond to any
apparent in their equations. If one can understand
the process and put in place structures to augment
it, then one may come out miles ahead in the long
run.

CF is a particular process, even though it can be
initiated by many different physical processes that
insert mechanical phonons into hydrogen bearing
liquids.
This causes vacuum cavitation bubbles
to expand and when they subsequently collapse they
produce the electrodynamic and then the nuclear
conditions under which two deuterium atoms can fuse
together resulting in excess heat available to the process.
...

By understanding what is occurring, several positive
things might occur: First the structures that augment
these process can be designed into equipment and be
*kept there*. If statistical parameters accompany the
production of this energy then they will become quantifiable.
If the statistic and costs are favorable, compressed air
may become the *preferable vehicle* to realize excess CF
cold fusion energy. And finally success in these endeavors
can have a positive effect on the scientific study and
acceptance of the CF cold fusion process itself.

:S:MarkSCoffman

Offline Omnibus

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No, no, Bob Kostoff's unfortunate creation has nothing to do with cold fusion. No need to infuse further confusion into this already muddled enough story. The only thing it deserves is to dismiss it and move on.

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Offline 4Tesla

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Got to     http://ep.espacenet.com/numberSearch?locale=en_EP
and put   US20090051169     in field  "Number:" , click on the button SEARCH and you will get the full patent description including the drawings.

Thanks!

http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?CC=US&NR=2009051169A1&KC=A1&FT=D&date=20090226&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP

4Tesla

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Offline LarryC

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Bob has changed video 4 from the tri-arm to show a longer run of his latest machine. It can be slowed down to see the detail of the lift sequence. The lift seems to be only around 8" to 12". Makes you wonder why the very expensive ~36" double action cylinders.

Clock Pos    Lift percentage
11:00              0%
11:30            25%
12:00            50%
 1:00             75%
 1:30            100%

Regards, Larry

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Offline LarryC

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The unit at far right end, shown in picture 2, reply #789 is a Solenoid operated hydraulic directional control valve. See picture below of a similar one.

Regards, Larry

Offline hartiberlin

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Bob has changed video 4 from the tri-arm to show a longer run of his latest machine. It can be slowed down to see the detail of the lift sequence. The lift seems to be only around 8" to 12". Makes you wonder why the very expensive ~36" double action cylinders.

Clock Pos    Lift percentage
11:00              0%
11:30            25%
12:00            50%
 1:00             75%
 1:30            100%

Regards, Larry

Maybe Bob has just worded his patent this way, to really get it passed
and thus he does not mentioned selfrunning ?

In the changed video #4 you see also the big blue device,
which could be a pressure generator which is also driven
by his machine.

But there is also a battery near by, so the question is,
is the battery recharged from the generator or
is it running the whole machine ?

Too bad, he has deleted the sound of the videos,
otherwise one could maybe hear, what is going on...


Regards, Stefan.

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Offline Omnibus

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Stefan,

Bob used to visit this forum as @bobmary. It would be nice if he could come back and make it clear whether this is really a self-sustaining device. I don't see what the point might be of him posting all these videos if he has no intention of sustaining his claims.

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I emailed him recently , but no reply yet...

Hmm, maybe he already has enough investors ?

Too bad he is so into the money with it...
and too bad nobody yet interviewed him
and made new videos.
Is he so shy and will not show anything ?

Why is nobody living near him try to meet him
and make an interview with him ?

The interviewer could sign an NDA and
only publish this, what Bob is willing to say...

At least Bob seems to be willing to show a few new
things on his website, but it seems
he is struggling with his website software and
maybe he needs a helping hand to get more data out ?

Regards, Stefan.

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Offline Omnibus

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I would be willing to travel to Toronto and see the device but I have to be certain that what is claimed is a self-sustaining device. Otherwise I'm not interested. Also, a condition for me to go is that I will not sign an NDA. 

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Omnibus,
just give him a call and ask.

He was listed in the white pages
when this thread started.

Regards, Stefan.

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Offline Omnibus

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Could you please tell me what his phone number is, if you have it handy?

Offline hartiberlin

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Omnibus,
I have emailed you his adress and phone number.

Please let me know, what comes out of it.
Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

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Hi Stefan,

Thanks for sending me the info. Will keep you posted.


 

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