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Author Topic: New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.com !  (Read 438014 times)

Offline Prophmaji

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agreed, for the most part. I've seen lots of corruption, but do not ahve specific experience in the given office. I'm simply paranoid via results in life. Breeds prudence, etc. As for the patent thing, I'm submitting a patent in a few days (nothing to do with stuff on this board) and am going to manufacturing and sales immediately. Wether the patent is accepted, issued or not, the product will still be sold. I did not want to submit a patent, but I was forced into it by three friends and business partners. They made me do it! :p

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agreed, for the most part. I've seen lots of corruption, but do not ahve specific experience in the given office. I'm simply paranoid via results in life. Breeds prudence, etc. As for the patent thing, I'm submitting a patent in a few days (nothing to do with stuff on this board) and am going to manufacturing and sales immediately. Wether the patent is accepted, issued or not, the product will still be sold. I did not want to submit a patent, but I was forced into it by three friends and business partners. They made me do it! :p

Good luck with your application.  One thing I wanted to add was that while I don't usually believe in widespread corruption, I certainly think the USPTO could use an overhaul to their system.  To do a patent application "right" you usually have to spend lots of $$ on a good lawyer.  And, even if you are fortunate enough to get granted a patent, its still not in any way a guarantee that you'll be able to enforce it to protect your invention.  Protecting your invention means spending more legal $$ to go after those you think infringe. 

So you can see, it can be expensive for an individual inventor to go through the whole process.  But, in many cases, you really just want to have the IP patent pending or patented just to add value (real or perceived) to your business. 

One cool thing about going through an application is that it forces you to think about all kinds of various potential uses for your invention, which could lead to some unexpected ideas.  At least in that respect I get a little enjoyment out of it.  Otherwise, its just lots of words and diagrams to write!

I would say that process isn't for everyone.  But I'm also a guy who can appreciate both open source and IP, so most would probably think I'm crazy anyway.   ;D


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Take a look at http://www.peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Bob_Kostoff_Gravity_Machine

I did some google. Is the first link at http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q=fuelless+gravity+filetype%3Apdf&meta= the device which bob kostoff has build?




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Offline Prophmaji

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interesting, to say the least.

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Re: New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.c
« Reply #139 on: September 21, 2007, 02:14:15 AM »
????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Did you guys take a peek at their website?

PM motors and anything else....all plans under $50........

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Re: New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.c
« Reply #139 on: September 21, 2007, 02:14:15 AM »
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Re: New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.c
« Reply #140 on: September 21, 2007, 03:29:40 AM »
????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Did you guys take a peek at their website?

PM motors and anything else....all plans under $50........


Right, PLANS is the key word...


Yet, the gravity plans and accompanying story certainly seem to match what Bob is showing on his website.

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OK, so my question is...does this really work?  I spent many years working on overbalance devices and I can't tell from the video if this is the real deal or not.  I hope it is.  The video on the site is shot from such a distance, you can't see if a motor is hooked up to the device or not.  I don't mean to be a skeptic, I truly hope someone has done it.  If I didn't think it could be done, I would never have worked on it.  Are there any other videos of this device?  I am not sure I understand the explanation of how/why it works.  I am not calling into question the inventor's integrity at all, I just would love to understand if this is real or not.  If it is real, I will happily drink a toast to the inventor.

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Offline Prophmaji

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Pictures are more than enough. The whole thing is right there. :) Patent law specifically permits single design examples are legal for the given individual to build and to study.

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No, pictures are not more than enough, for me anyway.  I am a licensed Private Investigator and I have to say, after reading all of the previous posts, this would make a good mystery case, or a bad investment, depending on your point of view. Every video of this I went to on youtube (following the posted links) it said "video removed by the user". Static pictures could be made to show anything.  I agree with Shruggedatlas's earlier post about being too eager to believe.  I want to believe but given the evidence and story thus far, it makes a better mystery novel than a scientific breakthrough. My apologies to Bob in advance if I am wrong, I would love to be proved wrong.

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Re: New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.c
« Reply #144 on: September 21, 2007, 09:16:21 AM »
G'day all,

This is his latest design with video to follow it says elsewhere.

http://www.newsourceofenergy.com/how%20it%20works.html

Doesn't give much away, does it?

Hans von Lieven

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Given the patent has been applied for it shouldnt be to much to ask to have someone take a look and independently validated it. This is the only way to avoid any speculation. up until that point it has little or no value.
Mark

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Re: New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.c
« Reply #146 on: September 21, 2007, 12:19:09 PM »


Once again. I live less than 2 hours away from Bob. I can go check in on him.

Hi,
yes, please try to visit Bob and take a video camera with you and
make some video for us .

I will send you privately  his phone number, so you can
make an apointment with him.
Many thanks in advance.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.c
« Reply #147 on: September 24, 2007, 12:15:38 PM »
I am not sure I understand the explanation of how/why it works.
I think the only explanation is the same as to why satellites gain energy when they travel near planets. This machine should be working on the same principle: energy is stored during 1/3 of the wheel travel path - mostly like in the case of satellites. The weight that goes from top to bottom is analogous to a small satellite, and all you need is to store the surplus energy. A simple weight without a small air-compressor tube or a spring with locker-zipper mechanism mounted on such wheel won't store any surplus energy, and it will eventually stop. The only important thing is that surplus energy is THERE: all you need is to store it.

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Here is an update from Bob?s page:
http://www.newsourceofenergy.com./update.html

"Now that the patent has been filed, I am installing one at my house and will be self sufficient . Soon I will have it

running around the first week of November. This one will deliver over 2000 foot lbs of torque at 50 rpm.
After that maybe all the disbelief will be gone. (Aproximently 20 horse power with high torque and very low rpm.)
My goal is to engineer one around 40 horse power. Watch the papers or check back to the web site for updates.
 

The machines in the videos are of coarse only prototypes that have been used over and over to prefect
the units on a smaller scale. Many unforeseen problems have been solved, and now with confidence I can move to
the finished product. The machines will be aproximently the same size, but built much stronger."

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I am not sure I understand the explanation of how/why it works.
I think the only explanation is the same as to why satellites gain energy when they travel near planets. This machine should be working on the same principle: energy is stored during 1/3 of the wheel travel path - mostly like in the case of satellites. The weight that goes from top to bottom is analogous to a small satellite, and all you need is to store the surplus energy. A simple weight without a small air-compressor tube or a spring with locker-zipper mechanism mounted on such wheel won't store any surplus energy, and it will eventually stop. The only important thing is that surplus energy is THERE: all you need is to store it.

The amount of energy a satellite gains during a flyby is actually the same as what the planet loses in momentum.  The amount lost by the planet is imperceptable, but it is there.  So no net energy gain in the overall system.

In this case, since the orbiting bit is actually tethered to the center, it would be impossible for the rotating part to actually gain energy in the manner a flyby satellite does.

 

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