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Author Topic: ASHOU magnet motor .. help.. ideas.. :)  (Read 3763 times)

Offline Nution

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ASHOU magnet motor .. help.. ideas.. :)
« on: May 10, 2007, 09:20:35 PM »
I am new here. This is my firt post. Just want to say I have read alot and am very inspired by all of the hard work done here. I wanted to offer up my project for review if you are interested.

While your looking at this keep in mind that everything is cylindrical. Just look at it as being cut in half. The only thing that is not cylindrical is the arms on the outer shell controlling the push magnet mechanism. I have not named any of these parts so I will just call them what I think they look like now. I will go through and try to give names to each piece making up the device. What I am curious about is mainly, would this work. Why and why not would be good. I would like some help in developing maybe some better ways that this device could operate more efficiently. I included an MS PAINT picture of what I am thinking about, and a legend explaining the color coding of the device. Please review the picture and read my description and then give any advice or criticism you can. Or you can just tell me I am crazy and be on your way lol.

OK the general idea of this is that the large magnets at the top and bottom of the chamber will attract the piston in line with it, with great strength (roughly 600 lbs.). Being that it is only 5? or so away from the pulling magnet at any given time, magnets of this size should have no problem pulling the piston in the desired direction. When the piston gets to it furthest point towards the attracting side (when the spring plate is near full compression), a device would push in another magnet, and introduce an opposing field that would force the piston away from the attracting magnet. Being that the new magnet is attached to a shielding plate, it would weaken the force of the pulling magnet while at the same time introducing the new push magnet. The shielding wont take away all of the magnetic pull from the main pull magnet, but it should reduce it dramatically. Also, the spring plate would have built up energy from its compression, further helping to send the piston in the proper direction. Also, at the very moment that the spring is compressed to almost near full compression and the reverse magnets are introduced to one side, the opposing pull magnet will be revealed, introducing its pull force to the entire equation. In my thinking, this would bring much more pulling on the piston in the desired direction than the pull magnet its currently attracted to can handle, thus forcing the piston structure to reverse direction back to the opposite side of the cylinder. Also, I am not how sure this cylinder structure could stay straight in the cylinder, being that it is basically hovering in the device. I did this to try and reduce mechanical friction and heat to hopefully keep a lot of its energy from being lost in the push /pull process.  I guess it could be operated just as a normal piston would in a shaft, but if I can avoid friction, I think that would make the device much more efficient. The only friction I can find is in a few key areas, mainly found on the armature device on the outer section of the cylinder. Each arm has 5 points where bearings would be used, and also the in and out motion of the push magnet device coming in and out of the structure and finally the operation of the springs. One of my main dilemma?s is if the piston can actually stay straight within the device and not wobble uncontrollably and just bang around in there. Also the friction from the push magnet device will create heat and wear as will the rapid compression and decompression of the springs., which will lower its life expectance and energy output. I tried to design it that each component could be replaced, and the parts could be serviced by the manufacturer to salvage the magnets from a worn or broken piece.

Also, another big issue is how to move the arm device in and out. I was thinking a pulley system that would use some springs to compliment its current needed direction and introduce more force to the in and out motion on the push magnets. The problem here is I don?t know how well a pulley system would perform at a high rate of speed, and also push plates only need to go in and out at the precise moment that the spring plate is depressed fully. They would have to stay in place until the opposite spring plate was depressed, then the new push plates would be introduced and the other ones at that time would pull out, again revealing the magnet on the other end and the process just keeps cycling.

I am sure there are 100 ways to improve this, but I just came up with it and would love to see if any one has some interest in helping me think of some ways to make the overall design better. As you can see if it was to operate as I have laid out, there would be countless uses and it could generate A LOT of power. You could put coils in so many areas. Also, if I am thinking right, if timed right and with magnets of this size involved, this thing would operate at incredibly high speeds with the amount of force being thrown around in here. I thank you for your time and hope maybe I have contributed in some small way. Have a good one!

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Re: ASHOU magnet motor .. help.. ideas.. :)
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2007, 10:01:46 PM »
Hello Nution
I think ,this is a good Idea
But i think as well,that the shielding to block the flux to open the next stroke might be
week a bit.
I hope you are able tu try it out.
Best wishes

Helmut

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Re: ASHOU magnet motor .. help.. ideas.. :)
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2007, 10:33:27 PM »
thanks for sharing.

peace

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Re: ASHOU magnet motor .. help.. ideas.. :)
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2007, 10:33:27 PM »
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Offline Nution

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Re: ASHOU magnet motor .. help.. ideas.. :)
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2007, 01:08:41 AM »
Thanks for the input helmut. I thank you are right. I had been thinking about that. With the size of these magnets, the pull is going to be pretty heavy. I doubt the shielding will cover even half the force. My hope was that it would shield enough to offset and turn course. Maybe I should have some system in place that moves the pull magnets out of the way once the push ones come in to reverse the piston. This could be rough though. With so many magnets in the structure, I am sure this thing will not want to just fold back easily without a fight. So pulling it back could just end up wasting energy, making the whole system just find a sticky spot and stall out. I have never been able to work with materials of this size. I will build this thing if alot of people think its worth a try. Those 2 pull magnets are going to run about $300.00 so I don't want to just jump in if its a bad idea. I don't know what shielding is best, or what amount of the field it would block. I have never worked with shielding before. Maybe a thicker shield would help? Not sure... I will hold off on developing a full size one for now. Still know there are lots of issues, and need some ideas. Lots of good ones floating around this site. Thanks again!

 

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