I beleive it's true, i know a lot of peoples will say it's fake but i actually see the ship myseft on real nasa photo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc7mkHtuLOs

here the photo and take a look at the center of the image, its the same ship

here the link from the nasa site

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/frame/?AS15-P-9625

for the prove of apollo 20, i cannot really tell, but you know they are thousand humain on the moon in the alien base, and nobody know about it, they prob wanted to be low profile onthe next mission

I also forgot to say that if you want to confirm it is a hoax, go to the profile page of the poster and watch the alleged video of the city on the moon. That one is a really crappy attempt.

well .. the best way to check .. is to have a very powerful telescope point in the direction, and SEE it .. o wait .. there is the possible excuse that it is on the "other side" of the moon.

but if those are official nasa images, then i would have to think that something is indeed there. definately worth sending a satellite to the location to do a recon of it. ofcourse, what am i thinking, the government has probably already done that.

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i took a closer look at the vid. after the APOLLO 20 logo (which i cant corroborate from anywhere else that it is official), there is a blue screen, and on that it says "APOLLO 11 .. VIEW OF EARTH AND CREW .. GMT .. 190:01:15 TO 196:01:39 ... YEAR 1969"

it seems the whole vid is probably from a VCR cassette or Betacam. One vid written on top of another. Then the moon vid .. one interesting thing is those 3 strips of light that seem to be reflected from the module to the moon.

the camera technology seems on par with the technology at that time.

BUT, there is every possibility it is fake .. someone can easily work up a miniature model of the landscape, and use a minicam, and make it look like they r in orbit around the moon.

if it is a fake, who ever did it probably works in the Hollywood industry. but If it ISNT a fake, who ever released it probably works with very classified data.

attached is an enlarged image of the nasa image .. as you can see, the object is above the ground at the nose section .. i doubt the moon would have such a terrain naturally .. there is no wind or fluids that could erode a "rock" in that manner

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It depends a great deal on how you interpret the image.  The shadows at the right end could be caused simply be the rock being taller at that end and casting a shadow.  It doesn't appear to me to be off the ground at all.  Nor does it appear to have a nose section.

However, if it is off the ground I don't see any reason why that would make it unnatural.  Possible ways this could happen include:
   It is part of an asteroid that has impacted on the surface and ended up in that position.

   It may be harder than the surrounding moon surface and has remained whilst the surrounding matter has been blown away by nearby meteorite impacts.

please go to the NASA site again, and look at the stereo image .. (a second shot at a slightly different angle .. ) http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/frame/?AS15-P-9625 and http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/frame/?AS15-P-9630 .. it will help you get a more accurate 3d representation of how it is oriented to its surroundings. (i really do wish i had higher res images, but we don't .. I am sure NASA has them somewhere)

any asteroid hitting the moon would have been pulverized, creating a crater .. no "chunks" would have been left. This is due to the speed, and direction of the collision (at such speeds, the impact would have changed the rock from solid to molten). If you would like to prove that the moon can have such sharp nose cliff structures naturally, one would be able to find more feature like this in abundance on the moon ... please show any other image from NASA that shows other places on the moon like that.

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yeah, this video (image) show well the spaceship!

Quote from: devilzangel on May 13, 2007, 11:07:32 AM

If you would like to prove that the moon can have such sharp nose cliff structures naturally, one would be able to find more feature like this in abundance on the moon ... please show any other image from NASA that shows other places on the moon like that.

I disagree that there needs to be more than one of something to prove it is natural.  I don't know of  anything similar to Uluru or Niagra Falls or the Grand Canyon, that doesn't negate their natural origins.

It would seem that I'm the only one that thinks it's just a big rock.  I'd love to know exactly what everyone else thinks it is and what has lead you to that conclusion.  Secret government project?  Alien technology?

Cheers.

we are talking whether there can exist such a natural structure on an environmentally desolate body/moon in space .. we are NOT debating the MAGNITUDE of that natural structure (Earth's largest canyon or mountain etc .. there are hundreds of canyons on earth buddy!!! and thousands of mountains, and thousands of waterfalls) .. on earth we can see millions of examples of water, wind and other elemental erosion processes via satellite imagery.

if it is NATURAL, there will DEFINITELY be MORE such features!!! this is indeed scientifically proven and does not require debate. (just ask any geologist) .. of course the features wont be EXACTLY the same,  duhh... But, it will represent the PROCESS of the erosion very well.

i guess some people still think the world is flat because they personally haven't gone to space to see the earth as a whole.

people have the right to be ignorant, you have exercised that right.

I am not complaining, i am just saying that people need to have an open mind.

just look at the images of the Face on Mars for example ..  JPL and NASA labs PROCESSED the images they got and CHANGED the dimensional aspects of it (thus intentionally distorting the image to make it look as if the face was simply a badly deformed hill).. but when independent scientists used the RAW data and did conservative processing without much alterations .. they got a MUCH truer image, that DOES show a real face on mars.

also how do u explain all the images that show INTENTIONAL airbrushing by NASA labs.

At this point, the evidence far outweighs NASA's ridiculous claims of being honest to the international public.

it is an even bigger fact that the USA government is almost NEVER honest about anything. (all in the retarded name of national security)

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