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Author Topic: ECRAT, Electrical Charge Recovery by Articulated Transfer  (Read 17402 times)

rstiffler

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Re: ECRAT, Electrical Charge Recovery by Articulated Transfer
« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2005, 10:42:45 PM »
Well Paul, because you want this in public then I guess you are getting some kick and trying to make points with the group.

WHO? WHERE? WHAT?

What OU device, where can I test this device and what is the device. Please don't give me the same old OU junk we all hear. You want me to prove it, where are these OU devices you are talking about, not the 100 year old stuff that does not exist, something today I can fly out to and see?

You want to see mine? Fine, set a time when you can be in the Houston area (you alone and not a group of supporters of some extreme group). Bring your test equipment and video camera and we can talk. Otherwise why not try solving todays energy problems and get off you band stand.

rstiffler

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Re: ECRAT, Electrical Charge Recovery by Articulated Transfer
« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2005, 10:55:04 PM »
For those with a real intrest in ECRAT, I have attached a jpg of an ECRAT driving 5 white LEDs. This circuit has been running for over 148 hours on 6X AA batts (9V) and has only dropped the battery voltage by 0.27 volts in the current period.

PaulLowrance

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Re: ECRAT, Electrical Charge Recovery by Articulated Transfer
« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2005, 11:34:08 PM »
Well Paul, because you want this in public then I guess you are getting some kick and trying to make points with the group.

Yes, that is a guess on your part for sure.  You might want to stick to facts rather than speculations.  The reasons are obvious.  You started a public thread and I asked for proof.  You asked if I wanted to be emailed the graphs and when I confirm you drop the subject and instead accuse me of taking your posts out of context.  So I called your bluff and asked you to quote me of doing such.  Now your come back is that I get some kick from replying to your public posts.  You might want to do some unbiased self-contemplation tonight.  That's my only suggestion to you.


WHO? WHERE? WHAT?

What OU device, where can I test this device and what is the device. Please don't give me the same old OU junk we all hear. You want me to prove it, where are these OU devices you are talking about, not the 100 year old stuff that does not exist, something today I can fly out to and see?

You do not read careful and quickly jump to conclusions to fit your reality.  I said, "You mean nobody has proven it yet, but a lot claim free energy."  You asked, "What OU device, where can I test this device and what is the device."  So where did I mention a or any OU device in that is real?


You want to see mine? Fine, set a time when you can be in the Houston area (you alone and not a group of supporters of some extreme group). Bring your test equipment and video camera and we can talk. Otherwise why not try solving todays energy problems and get off you band stand.

LOL, that's what I thought.  Initially I thought you might be a legitimate person, but now I drop your legitimacy probability down to ~10%.

Let me know if and when you plan of backing up your claims about me and/or your device.

Sincerely,
Paul

PaulLowrance

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Re: ECRAT, Electrical Charge Recovery by Articulated Transfer
« Reply #18 on: May 12, 2005, 11:37:27 PM »
For those with a real intrest in ECRAT, I have attached a jpg of an ECRAT driving 5 white LEDs. This circuit has been running for over 148 hours on 6X AA batts (9V) and has only dropped the battery voltage by 0.27 volts in the current period.

Oh boy, that's the same type of fuzzy logic that John Bedini has been pulling off for decades.  Please, at least show some proof.  I am really getting tired of these consistent monthly people who offer these attractive projects to these poor people who don't know better (enough science) and get sucked into spending time and/or money on them.

I simply asked you for some proof.  Still waiting.  I don't need your secret-- just measurements.  If your measurements seem real then I will find a local scientists near you to verify your claims.

Paul

rstiffler

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Re: ECRAT, Electrical Charge Recovery by Articulated Transfer
« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2005, 12:11:10 AM »
Well you'll, I have been on the net from 1993 with various groups that claim OU, Free Energy and whatever out there and  to date "NO ONE" claims such a device that they will allow the testing of. I claim to offer a 50% reduction by NON-OU methods and you all wet your pants.

Great!

I have only one person at a time to prove my claims to, that is the camper that will purchase my ECRAT camping lamp and be able to confirm when compared to the tent next to him that his lamp does indeed last 50% longer.

I am done for this thread. Please have fun with you crap about "He don't have any thing" party line. I will be going to the bank and you all will still want the full diagram and design specifications so you can get your own cut.

Bye all!

PaulLowrance

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Re: ECRAT, Electrical Charge Recovery by Articulated Transfer
« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2005, 12:46:32 AM »
I have only one person at a time to prove my claims to, that is the camper that will purchase my ECRAT camping lamp and be able to confirm when compared to the tent next to him that his lamp does indeed last 50% longer.

I get tired of this but here goes again.  If your lamp burns longer then that is by no means proof.  BTW, 50% ???  That sounds like a real non-specific number.  Anyhow, when a battery becomes low then it requires special circuitry if you want to suck more energy out of it.  This is due to the fact that the batteries internal resistance increases a great deal, especially when it's nearly completely empty.  There are circuits that can suck a lot more energy out of the battery by significantly lowering and matching the batteries load resistance.

Again, by all means post your measurements as I outlined.  You claim to have the Nobel Prize of all Nobel Prizes, yet you want to milk it for every cent you can at the cost of 7 billion people, countries that are heating up on the verge of WIII, a planet that is in danger of global warming, forests that are being chopped down at an alarming rate, ice shelves the size of states that are breaking off and melting.  I find it odd that you'll keep your ECRAT secret.  That's funny because my spell checker keeps telling me your ECRAT should be SECRET, LOL.

Go ahead, keep it a secret.  It's your karma.

Paul

Offline hartiberlin

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Re: ECRAT, Electrical Charge Recovery by Articulated Transfer
« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2005, 09:30:02 AM »
Paul,
if you are going on to" piss off" all the inventors over here with your
attitude I will ban you from my forum.
This is the first warning.

Ron, please report further on on your ECRAT and please ignore Paul.
He seems to be only here for his own fun.
He claimed to have worked on some energy invention himself,
but since he is here he never reported about it, but only hits on other inventors.

So Paul, why don?t you report better about your own inventions and
leave the other inventors alone ?

Regards, Stefan.

Offline betajim

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Re: ECRAT, Electrical Charge Recovery by Articulated Transfer
« Reply #22 on: May 13, 2005, 03:26:56 PM »
I wonder how similar the ECRAT circuit is compared to the circuit at this page:
http://www.emanator.demon.co.uk/bigclive/joule.htm?

From the ECRAT description it seems to operate like the joule thief does.

Offline hartiberlin

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Re: ECRAT, Electrical Charge Recovery by Articulated Transfer
« Reply #23 on: May 13, 2005, 03:29:12 PM »
No,
it is different. Ron has already shown me more.
It involves also a special core and a special driver circuit.
I think getting 50 % more power out of any power supply is
a very good achievement.
Ron should continue to develop this circuit.
Regards, Stefan.

PaulLowrance

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Re: ECRAT, Electrical Charge Recovery by Articulated Transfer
« Reply #24 on: May 13, 2005, 03:52:42 PM »
Piss off as in confronting and using logic, LOL?  It seems I am the one who quotes, where as most others make claim after claim without any evidence, math, statistical data, or even a quote.  If he's going to say something specific about me then at least quote me.  That's right, I keep forgetting how delicate / sensitive society teaches people.  You can't confront people and you have to tippie toe around their delicate emotions and say one thing when you really are thinking another.  You have to break the bad news to them so ever softly and slowly-- like people are so fragile.  Yes, this is something I find difficult to practice.  I find it difficult to believe people are so fragile.  You can't be blunt because most people instantly think you are being hyper, aggressive, and possibly angry.

Paul



Paul,
if you are going on to" piss off" all the inventors over here with your
attitude I will ban you from my forum.
This is the first warning.

Ron, please report further on on your ECRAT and please ignore Paul.
He seems to be only here for his own fun.
He claimed to have worked on some energy invention himself,
but since he is here he never reported about it, but only hits on other inventors.

So Paul, why don?t you report better about your own inventions and
leave the other inventors alone ?

Regards, Stefan.


Offline hartiberlin

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Re: ECRAT, Electrical Charge Recovery by Articulated Transfer
« Reply #25 on: May 13, 2005, 05:24:52 PM »
Paul I have set you now on only reading and not allow postings anymore, before you don?t
excuse yourself to Ron.

Offline Charlie Brown ARN

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Re: ECRAT, Electrical Charge Recovery by Articulated Transfer
« Reply #26 on: May 14, 2005, 01:56:21 AM »
Instrument measurment of the light intensity and spectra should be included in the evidence. Feeding LEDs pulses instead of DC may increase the efficiency though 50% is a high goal. Maybe clever conventional electronics can help off grid people have lighting. One battery white LED flashlights are already available.         Sorry I rushed - now to read the posts in the middle.

Aloha Charlie

Offline Charlie Brown ARN

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Re: ECRAT, Electrical Charge Recovery by Articulated Transfer
« Reply #27 on: May 14, 2005, 02:24:46 AM »
Circuitry that allows rechargeable batteries to be discharged more deeply may shorten their life. A deeply discharged battery may also be beyond the design expectations of a battery recharger. Designers in this field should work with electrochemical considerations and create circuits that feed power to and draw power from batteries in such ways that batteries perform better.

Aloha, Charlie