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Author Topic: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2  (Read 1133685 times)

Offline sm0ky2

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2190 on: January 02, 2018, 12:21:48 PM »
Bruce


In most cases, free air electrons drift at
V = 400-600m/s, per 4500v gradient per cm
variant by such factors as humidity and barometric pressure
and an unknown localized factor that has not been identified.
(rough estimate with minimal data)




If you want to increase or decrease the frequency
Multiply or divide by 4.
(allow for slight adjustments based on a proportionality
   between wavelength and wire thickness, in general
   if wire is less than half a wavelength, the adjustment
   is minimal)










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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2191 on: January 02, 2018, 01:33:48 PM »
Ari,

Your TIP36C devices are bipolar transistors, not mosfets as called for on Bruce's schematic.


Those ones were just for test. I received the right ones but I burned best part of those. I’m waiting some others, as the diodes and the signal generator 

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2192 on: January 02, 2018, 02:14:11 PM »

Those ones were just for test. I received the right ones but I burned best part of those. I’m waiting some others, as the diodes and the signal generator


Check your voltages across the pnp transistor
as the relationship between V and Power will
govern your operating temperature. this is best done
from the input side, as the power across the c-b junction
is a temperature gradient scale. Higher heat means less c-b power
throughput, as you reach burn-out temps, the gate is wide open.
and is no longer controlled by the base current.
excess power from c-e is dissipated as heat, ultimately
destroying your transistor.


When using npn, it is the current you want to really watch.
They can handle a larger range of voltages, but increased
current causes the same situation as above.


they are both subjectable to EM so a shield is recommended
between transistors and any closely situated inductors.
(except when this effect is desirable)




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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2192 on: January 02, 2018, 02:14:11 PM »
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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2193 on: January 03, 2018, 05:23:21 PM »

Hi Hoppy,


Trust me when I tell you that they are caused by electrons loose from the wire.. Lol


This is a 'starter" circuit for you guys.  I can collect the electrons from the air with no electrical or magnetic connection, if I choose... Lol


So I would encourage you give it a go and see what you see.


Also it IS frequency dependant.  Go up in frequency except for one other frequency I found and power generated drops.  Go down and it drops.


Haven't figured that reason out yet but would like to.  I need a longer wavelength.


Does anyone know how fast an electron off of the wire moves?  Facinating stuff... Lol


Oh.... And the electrons can be tasted... Kind of a metallic taste. 


Imagine if I had a significant gen that put out hv square wave??  Wow could I speed up the magnets!


Cheers,


Bruce

Bruce,

How did you determine that there was no current in the 'wire' and what instrumentation did you use?

Please provide more details on the 'wire'. Your schematic visually suggests that the 'wire' is formed into a coil with a number of turns. What is its measured inductance and physical characteristics please?

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2194 on: January 04, 2018, 04:26:47 AM »
Bruce,

How did you determine that there was no current in the 'wire' and what instrumentation did you use?

Please provide more details on the 'wire'. Your schematic visually suggests that the 'wire' is formed into a coil with a number of turns. What is its measured inductance and physical characteristics please?


Hi Hoppy,


Use any size wire you'd like to... Lol


I use a combination.  Experiment with different lengths.  Some work better than others.


You call yourselves experimenters...
Experiment... Lol


I've given all I am going to give and gave y'all a thousand times more than anyone ever gave me.


Current?  Bwahahaha


Have you ever compared the magnetic field strength of loose from the wire electrons compared to the magnetic field of current?  Trust me when I say no comparison... Lol


Try and see or wait for someone else to is all I can say.  ;)


Cheers,


Bruce

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2195 on: January 04, 2018, 10:07:19 AM »
OK Bruce, thanks for your reply from which I'll take it that you did not use any instrumentation to determine if there is current in the wire and just assumed that there is not because the wire is open circuit.

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2196 on: January 04, 2018, 11:17:23 AM »
OK Bruce, thanks for your reply from which I'll take it that you did not use any instrumentation to determine if there is current in the wire and just assumed that there is not because the wire is open circuit.


How would you go about testing for current in an open circuit
Without closing said circuit?
Aside from capacitance effects, and hv flow through the air medium,
An ‘open’ circuit implies no current, in principle.


The presence of electric and magnetic fields, is not current-dependent.




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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2197 on: January 04, 2018, 12:45:25 PM »

How would you go about testing for current in an open circuit
Without closing said circuit?
Aside from capacitance effects, and hv flow through the air medium,
An ‘open’ circuit implies no current, in principle.


The presence of electric and magnetic fields, is not current-dependent.

The 'wire' cannot be a completely electrically open circuit if flux is induced into the secondary 'pick-up' winding and the induced current is affected by the frequency driving the DUT.

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2198 on: January 05, 2018, 01:11:59 AM »
The 'wire' cannot be a completely electrically open circuit if flux is induced into the secondary 'pick-up' winding and the induced current is affected by the frequency driving the DUT.


Hoppy,


I ALWAYS use instrumentation... Lol


And I encourage you to build it to find out.  This is a little bitty baby starter I gave to you guys.  Not for me to prove something... Lol


But I gave it as a gift for experimenters.  So no answer doesn't mean no answer..


It simply means if anyone is curious enough to explore it, there they go.


Are there electrons on the wire?  Oh yes! Do you want to call that current??  I would not...


Anyone want to find out more?  It's about fifty dollars in parts.. Lol


I tell you again, when you see the STRENGTH of the magnetic field you will know it is not some measly current.  Then put all of the instruments you choose to. 


Build it and you will see.  Or blow it off as nothing here.  Or wait for someone else.  I am over a year past what I gave you guys and further developing the TPU.  Generating power from electrons and learning to move them.  There is a HUGE learning curve!!  Not for the faint of heart... Bwahahaha


Cheers,


Bruce

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2199 on: January 05, 2018, 02:01:39 AM »
The 'wire' cannot be a completely electrically open circuit if flux is induced into the secondary 'pick-up' winding and the induced current is affected by the frequency driving the DUT.


Place a compass next to a long wire and touch one end to the + side of a battery

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2200 on: January 05, 2018, 02:05:37 AM »
Take a non-magnetic stainless, like 305 or something
And electrify it.
Where is the magnetic field?
Why can a magnet be attracted TO something, but not stick to it
And the object NOT be attracted to the magnet?


but the Field is?


Think about what Bruce is trying to teach you.
None of you are in a position to argue with him....

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2201 on: January 05, 2018, 10:06:27 AM »

Place a compass next to a long wire and touch one end to the + side of a battery

Maybe that's a better starting point.  :-\ However, my compass needle does not move / kick.

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2202 on: January 05, 2018, 10:29:00 AM »

Think about what Bruce is trying to teach you.
None of you are in a position to argue with him....

I would prefer to see Bruce demonstrate his setup on video before deciding to clear a space on my cluttered bench to replicate this.

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2203 on: January 05, 2018, 12:47:42 PM »
Maybe that's a better starting point.  :-\ However, my compass needle does not move / kick.


Wire is not long enough
The equation is primarily governed by change in voltage
over time.


The needle moving is based on it mass, and the viscosity of the fluid
(the oil/water in the compass device, or air with a needle)
Which results in a time it take for it to reorientate.


With constant current flowing, you have plenty of time.
And deflection is consistent along most of the wire (peaks at center)
And is proportional to the power.


With a change in voltage, deflection is directly proportional to the
change in potential. This is most prominent at the center of a long wire.
the time involved is dependent upon the length of wire.


[not to be confusing but the earth field is also factored in the equations
 for both situations, ideally the wire would run n-s in experiments, giving
a 45-degree deflection at the point when both fields are of equal magnitude]


The point of this, is that open circuits have a capacitance value.
but unlike a pure capacitor, a circuit may contain inductive properties
that affect the “charging current”.


But current doesn’t flow from the SOUrCE!
Where does it come from?
Is the battery charging inductively?
Is the charge creating its own current?


You can be shown things and you can refute them, based on your previous
knowledge, and this can go on for decades.
Or - you could experiment yourself and learn from people trying to share
what they have learned.


If you just want to see “videos of Bruce” doing what he is talking about
You only need to read the 20,000 tpu threads here where he already tried that.
If it had gone the way you are suggesting, people would be following in his
footsteps. Instead of crawling around in circles why he tries to baby step them.

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2204 on: January 05, 2018, 12:51:39 PM »
Or just go watch the SM videos and do what HE tells you.
He didn’t hide anything, he tells us exactly how it works
And how to build it.




 

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