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Author Topic: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2  (Read 1133684 times)

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2130 on: November 19, 2017, 12:32:32 PM »

P.S. Have you ever taken a WEAK 9 volt battery and SHORTED it to itself and then WHILE SHORTED, used an amp meter across the terminals to see a small SEPARATE current generated? 
How can this be?

Why does that current across a shorted battery INCREASE when the length of wire shorting the battery INCREASES?


Hi Bruce
If understand right your observation, then yes when we have two shortcuts across a battery's terminals then current pass along both of the shortcuts. If you increase the length of one of the two, then you introduce ohmic resistance which reduce the current to this specific shortcut and more current will flow along the second shortcut with the least resistance.

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2131 on: November 20, 2017, 10:54:26 PM »
Hi Bruce
If understand right your observation, then yes when we have two shortcuts across a battery's terminals then current pass along both of the shortcuts. If you increase the length of one of the two, then you introduce ohmic resistance which reduce the current to this specific shortcut and more current will flow along the second shortcut with the least resistance.


Your explanation is incorrect Jeg

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2132 on: November 20, 2017, 10:58:09 PM »
Thanks for the great clues, Bruce. 
More wire - more magnetic field; more magnetic field, more amperage?
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I've come to believe that the perpendicular windings are what picks up these "tiny magnets" you refer to that result from the oscillation of charge in the windings on the circumference of the toroid.
Bob


E = BLv


More LENGHT (L) equals more emf
bigger magnet (B) equals more emf
Faster magnet (v) equals more emf


Perpendicular?    Think three dimensionally.  (PARALLEL!) And horizontal is what I do, for now. 

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2133 on: November 20, 2017, 10:59:14 PM »
If I were to say again what I have said in the past, Id say he is saying the electrons are the magnets.

Mags


ABSOLUTELY CORRECT MAGS!

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« Reply #2134 on: November 20, 2017, 11:29:46 PM »

ABSOLUTELY CORRECT MAGS!

 ;D ;D ;D

Very cool B. 

Would love to see more on what you are getting at here from your perspective. ;)   

Working right now but I can expand on my thoughts that I have had on this for some time now also. Had a more complete thought on this in another thread and it is not a short explanation.  But would love to join in here with you on this. Lets get this party started. ;D

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« Reply #2135 on: November 20, 2017, 11:35:20 PM »
Oh.  As for the running the magnet along the wire, Is that how you are getting the tiny magnets(electrons) out of the wire, where as the magnet cutting the wire would cause the electrons to flow in the wire, running the magnet with the wire would tend to make the electrons pop out of the wire at 90deg, depending on the direction of the magnet motion one way or the other, so to say in a funny way? ;)

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« Reply #2136 on: November 21, 2017, 12:14:06 AM »
Hi mags and bruce my understanding is that the electrons are on surface of wire.

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« Reply #2137 on: November 21, 2017, 11:04:36 PM »
Oh.  As for the running the magnet along the wire, Is that how you are getting the tiny magnets(electrons) out of the wire, where as the magnet cutting the wire would cause the electrons to flow in the wire, running the magnet with the wire would tend to make the electrons pop out of the wire at 90deg, depending on the direction of the magnet motion one way or the other, so to say in a funny way? ;)

Mags

you could try  a caducious winding like in Lithuanian experiment, what are you going to do with it then ?

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2138 on: November 22, 2017, 01:58:56 PM »
It's all about magnetic field like I said. You can do the same using Tesla method and a fast capacitor discharge over the low inductance coil. In fact all theory about generator are completely upside down. The output goes from magnetic field ,not from mechanical force.

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2139 on: November 23, 2017, 08:17:00 PM »
Oh.  As for the running the magnet along the wire, Is that how you are getting the tiny magnets(electrons) out of the wire, where as the magnet cutting the wire would cause the electrons to flow in the wire, running the magnet with the wire would tend to make the electrons pop out of the wire at 90deg, depending on the direction of the magnet motion one way or the other, so to say in a funny way? ;)

Mags



Mags,


Go to my Christmas post.  Notice the mix of ac over DC using the pnp Fet.  THAT is how to get the electrons off of the wire!  But the ac must be square wave! Split signal and phase shift by a SMALL amount.  Less than 5 degrees.


Make a circuit of three to five turns.  Use a schottkey diode and low ohm resistor.  Put a volt meter across the resistor.  This set up is your "magnetic pickup".


Look for a magnetic field! You will find it where you don't expect!   :o


The electrons are 'off"the wire but NOT floating through the air!!  Somehow the wire acts as a waveguide..! Very incredible


Cheers,


Bruce

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« Reply #2140 on: November 23, 2017, 08:20:45 PM »

Mags,


Go to my Christmas post.  Notice the mix of ac over DC using the pnp Fet.  THAT is how to get the electrons off of the wire!  But the ac must be square wave! Split signal and phase shift by a SMALL amount.  Less than 5 degrees.


Make a circuit of three to five turns.  Use a schottkey diode and low ohm resistor.  Put a volt meter across the resistor.  This set up is your "magnetic pickup".


Look for a magnetic field! You will find it where you don't expect!   :o


The electrons are 'off"the wire but NOT floating through the air!!  Somehow the wire acts as a waveguide..! Very incredible


Cheers,


Bruce


Also Mags, study the magnetic field of a straight wire.  Replace the word current with electron.  My wires of magnets have NO current in them at all!  Only moving electrons.


Cheers,


Bruce

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2141 on: November 24, 2017, 03:01:33 AM »
Hi mags and bruce my understanding is that the electrons are on surface of wire.


CORRECT! 

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Re: Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2
« Reply #2142 on: November 24, 2017, 08:30:34 AM »
"P.S. Have you ever taken a WEAK 9 volt battery and
SHORTED it to itself and then WHILE SHORTED, used
an amp meter across the terminals to see a small
SEPARATE current generated?"

Yesss. Looking very good
 
"How can this be?"

Magic


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« Reply #2143 on: November 24, 2017, 04:35:45 PM »

CORRECT!

So are we talking skin effect and the magnetic field from this effect is something different than experience with say dc on the coil?

Mags

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« Reply #2144 on: November 24, 2017, 05:40:04 PM »
So are we talking skin effect and the magnetic field from this effect is something different than experience with say dc on the coil?

Mags


Hi Mags,


Forget all about the magnetic field associated with current,
please.


The magnetic field of electrons on the surface of the wire, moving is Huge in comparison.  Because of their speed.  Make the magnet bigger..
Acellerate them further...
Use a lot of wire.


Build and test.  The best way to learn. Lol


Electrons are tiny magnets.  North and South pole each one.  Which pole is facing down is dependent on the direction of its spin. 


They are the permanent magnets...


I gave you guys a schematic at Christmas.  Use it if you are really wanting to learn.


Cheers,


Bruce

 

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