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Author Topic: Cheap Wind-Farming  (Read 16888 times)

Online seychelles

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Re: Cheap Wind-Farming
« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2022, 05:12:17 AM »
I AM SO HAPPY TODAY LANCA IS BACK IN FULL FORM. WELCOME BACK LANKA.

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Re: Cheap Wind-Farming
« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2022, 08:12:31 PM »
I AM SO HAPPY TODAY LANCA IS BACK IN FULL FORM. WEL( ::) L.) COME BACK LANKA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zT8AyfsFmA  ;)
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Vanuatu was well,Tonga was well ,Seychelles was well
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Vanuatu actually less well,Tonga actually less well, Seychelles being well ::)
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poste scriptum : I please for "Pardon-moi,s.v.p. !"
A translation/transformation error to correct : #13 :

  http://www.anfre.com/global-aluminium-smelters-production-costs-on-decline/
 Rio Tinto Alcan has similar production costs, thanks to low cost smelters in Canada, powered also by low cost hydro power, with the Kitimat smelter having the lowest power tariff in the world (below US$ 6 /MWh), while its other Canadian smelters pay less than US$ 7 / MWh.                   
                               6 US$/1000 KWh up to 7 US$/1000 KWh =  0,6 US$/KWh up to 0,7 US$/KWh

correct -for arithmetical understanding , to write :

                                                                         instead :
      6 US$/1000 KWh up to 7 US$/1000 KWh =  0,6 US$/KWh up to 0,7 US$/KWh
                                                                          clearly :
     6 US$/1000 KWh up to 7 US$/1000 =           0,6 US$cent/KWh up to 0,7 US$cent/KWh

     

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Re: Cheap Wind-Farming
« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2022, 08:50:35 PM »
https://www.wiwo.de/technologie/green/marke-eigenbau-tueftler-entwickelt-windturbine-fuer-22-euro/13549092.html


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9TrUPoevXI         $30 DIY Kilowatt Wind Turbine
This is the up to date build process for the OpenSource LowTech.org $30 Lenz2 vertical axis wind turbine.

The turbine can be made almost entirely from recycled materials with basic tools in six hours for $20-35.

It is tested at 35-40% mechanically efficient, generates 130 watts mechanical in a 30 km/h wind, 1 kilowatt at 60 km/h, and can survive 100 km/h gusts.




and an appropriate 750 RPM electric generator :
http://www.schillergy.com/pdf/schiller-energy.pdf

when 3000 RPM version weights ,active/passive material calculation, 2 Kg/KW
a "750 RPM 1 KW " version weights -linear estimation - 2 Kg = 3000 RPM   

    ergo  4 Kg/1500 RPM  ergo 8 Kg/750 RPM

    8 Kg a 32 US$ ( reference alibaba PM motor/generator US$/Kg material) ~ 250 US$ 

    means : 250 US$ + 30 US$ windturbine = 280 US$ total

https://overunity.com/18143/colors-kapanadze-forum-fe-builds-circuits-and-comments/2340/

                                          #2347 / # 2350 (pseudo-) superconductive coil

                a. Ed Sines concept(US Navy R&D)             b. Haldar  Sabyasachi                c. Topchiashvili et al.

                                     each kind with +-  5x reduced costs, weights and sizes claims

                            Experiment/R&D : 8 Kg generator to 1,6 Kg generator - by same costs -

                                 1,6 Kg x 32 US$/Kg = 51,2 US$ per KW 750 RPM HTS coil generator


                   51,2 US$ generator + 30 US$ turbine = 81,2 US$ nominal 1 KW windturbine system

the above given numbers : 130 watts mechanical in a 30 km/h wind, 1 kilowatt at 60 km/h     
                                                                             per hours speed   to per second speed
                                           130 watts                             8,33 m/sec  ,  1 kilowatt  at 16,66 m/sec   
                                                                  compared thread #5 numbers,electric



Example: A wind turbine with a nominal 400 W (manufacturer's specification) generated at a wind force of approx. 20 m / sec. an output of 70 watts.

After converting the generator to combined windings, the system delivered with a wind force of 5-6 m / sec. 140 watts.

At 10-12 m / sec. were generated over 320 watts!







DIY-turbine  .... It is tested at 35-40% mechanically efficient ...

 https://overunity.com/10640/more-efficient-wind-mill
 https://www-buch--der--synergie-de.translate.goog/c_neu_html/c_08_08_02_savonius.htm?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_t

ESPV-Tec GmbH & Co. KG in Blaubeuren-Asch  Wind-Pillar 

Whether the statement "we achieve an efficiency of almost 100 percent" can really be proven, I leave it open.






A. 280 US$-81,2 US$/KW compared

"  ......  The variants for domestic use with 0.5 or 1.5 kW generator output cost around €10,000. Under suitable wind conditions, the 500 W system generates around 4,500 kWh of electricity per year, which can almost completely cover the consumption of an average family. .... "

                                  " we achieve an efficiency of almost 100 percent "
100% from ? arithmetical limit / Carnot limit (near closed chamber effect) / Betz limit ?
https://buergerenergieberatung.wordpress.com/category/windenergie/Mini Wind Kraftwerk liefert 4kWh – Wirkungsgrad nahezu 100%May 21, 2013
compared

https://barrylebost.com/the-lebost-wind-turbine
https://www.osti.gov/biblio/6531349-lebost-wind-turbine-laboratory-tests-data-analysis
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=barry+lebost&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search
f.e.

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=4295783A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19811020&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#
cw rotor output or ccw rotor output or cw-and-ccw-rotor output : speed change/power change effect

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=4&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20121009&CC=US&NR=8283799B1&KC=B1#

with 250W or 400 W conventional generator

with improved generator ?
DC or AC or pulsed DC output !?
2 poles/ 1 coil  ,4 poles/2 coils , 6 poles/3 coils, ..... output

https://www.integrityresearchinstitute.org/CleanEnergy-Vesperman.pdf

page 5 from 33 pdf pages  Induction Coil Coating Increases Generator Output by One-Third ,David Yurth

mono-phase or triphase or polyphase output


What can DIY or team work/exploration reach ?
            280 US$-81,2 US$/KW / #13     1750 EUR/KW           
             installation costs and 6 EUR cents/KWh generation

assumption : 27 % full-hour conversion= efficiency per annum

when the DIY energy conversion system has 8766 h x 27% nominal power efficiency :

 ( a. 280 US$ - b. 81,2 US$/KW  divided   1750 EUR/KW)  times 6 EUR cents/KWh ~ 
                                       a. <1 EUR cent per KWh   b. +-  0,25 EUR cent/KWh                     
                                  BEFORE estate renewable -clean energy- investment incentive !     
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Re: Cheap Wind-Farming
« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2022, 04:09:51 PM »
when the DIY energy conversion system has 8766 h x 27% nominal power efficiency :


 ( a. 280 US$ - b. 81,2 US$/KW  divided   1750 EUR/KW)  times 6 EUR cents/KWh ~
 
                                  a. <1 EUR cent per KWh   b. +-  0,25 EUR cent/KWh               


     
                                  BEFORE estate renewable -clean energy- investment incentive ! 




                          27% is a good value for 30 meters + wind generator rotor hight over the year efficiency !


                 On house-tect or garden area installation we can ,by conventional simple 2/3/4 blades rotor ,calculating with 8% !




                           from average 8% to WIND PARC project 27% target to :


                   https://www-buch--der--synergie-de.translate.goog/c_neu_html/c_08_08_02_savonius.htm?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_t                                                         
                                                       ESPV-Tec GmbH & Co. KG in Blaubeuren-Asch


                                                                      Wind-Pillar


                                        "we achieve an efficiency of almost 100 percent"




                            A. imposssible


                            B. impossible without help


                                a. periodically


                                b. permanently




"  ......  The variants for domestic use with 0.5 or 1.5 kW generator output cost around €10,000. Under suitable wind conditions,


                      suitable =      periodic or permanent wind current blow ,if not permanent over-force storing


 the 500 W system generates around 4,500 kWh of electricity per year, which can almost completely cover the consumption of an average family. ....


a 500 W generator working over the year permanent = 8766 hours gives the 500 W as nominal output :


                               8766 hours x 0,5 KW = 4383 KWh output as yearly conversion gain



                                              http://americanwindinc.com/violating-betz-limit/


                                                          concentrated wind converter

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=4&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20121009&CC=US&NR=8283799B1&KC=B1#



https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=9374
                                                                   



                                               https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=16848




                                       https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsvRPGBfbsP7oUHqytkREVA/videos


                                       https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UukXtWSLnh8 

                                       from rotoverter principle to 3:47+  assisted rotorshaft wind converter




                                                                           similar
                                               https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=9318
                                                                           like


                                                        atmospheric energie generator


                                               https://patents.google.com/patent/EP1841544A2/en

     




















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        Nit paersoenlik nemme,Sychellianer ,in reellive that mins for Mi :


        Sonntag, 22     "  I AM SO HAPPY TODAY " :P


                                LANCA I (my older brother) IS BACK ( Alle Jahre wi(e)der ::)


                                IN FULL FORM (167.000 Gr. body weight ,without clothes)


                                imaginative :  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M4ADcMn3dA 


        Sonntag,22  eine Grosspackung Tostbrot,familiar, und 400 Gr. Brotlaib(chen) besorgt


                              Montag,"erweiterte " Mittagszeit ,so um 15.00 MEZ, alldas w-e-g-schnabuliert


                             (gebe offen zu, zwei Toastscheiben, durch mich !)




                 Lanca I in Muenchen,sonst,ansaessig, ehemals "Stadt der Bewegung",welch FARCE ! ;D 


                 Ich werd "brot-loser" :P  Artista


                 Werd wohl es mit


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Re: Cheap Wind-Farming
« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2022, 12:09:15 PM »
https://overunity.com/19066/building-an-ou-motorgenerator-combination/msg564554/#new  ;)
Dr. rer.nat. Nikola Tesla : Ergaenzer der "E"=mc² mit "E"=tc²     "E" oder e ,darstellend : spezifische Energie

A battery. A reed switch to complete the circuit.
A small rotor with all N magnets (any GOOD generator will have a rotor with N/S magnets)
A generator coil
A light bulb
A motor coil
Two small magnets
A stack of magnets (only because a stack is easier to hold and not let slip out of my hand. A single magnet will work just as well.)

                  Batterie durch Capacitor/Condenser/Kondensator aus-/umtauschen !? Bifiliar !?
                              Zeit-Displacement/Verschiebung     Ort-Displacement/Verschiebung

                  Verschiebung Winkel : Vector,Skalar,Tensor,Actuator


           Resonanz !? Resonanz-Katastrophe !? Point Of No Return
           Resonanz : source/transformer/-ponder Commutator-Connection/Anschluss  :+ zu + ? - zu - ? + zu - ?


                                            Avramenko ? 1 or 2 coils/Kabel -Anschluesse/Connections ?

                                       Resonanz-circuit : kinetical force to electromagnetic force

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=3&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19210316&CC=FR&NR=514684A&KC=A#

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=6&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19210709&CC=FR&NR=521330A&KC=A#


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=9&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19220721&CC=FR&NR=540979A&KC=A#


Irgendwann einmal dann :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=89&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20140320&CC=US&NR=2014078802A1&KC=A1#
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=102&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20090326&CC=US&NR=2009079393A1&KC=A1#

Temperatur : physikalisch versus physiologisch
Energie :        physikalisch versus physiologisch
Masse :          physikalisch versus physiologisch
Zeit:                physikalisch versus physiologisch
Ort :                physikalisch versus physiologisch


Matematica     Fisica conventional versus specifica


                                                                           Algorithmica

                                                                           ciencia viva ,vida synthetica

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« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2022, 02:41:06 AM »