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Author Topic: Otto`s replication of Steven Mark`s TPU  (Read 279916 times)

giantkiller

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Re: Otto`s replication of Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #75 on: April 27, 2007, 05:02:11 AM »
In any boundery based grid system a citizen would need a license to backfeed power. That private system had better be using a conventional solar, wind or combustion based entity operating a loss or suffer the consequences.

In the Rocky mountains the 'off grid' requirement is guns and isolation.

--giantkiller. You are either a prisoner or expelled.

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Re: Otto`s replication of Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #76 on: April 27, 2007, 05:24:35 AM »
@ Otto thats great 5 to 10 hz is where the magic is ...did it start self resonating ?       3 hz it gets real dangerous

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Re: Otto`s replication of Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #77 on: April 27, 2007, 05:59:42 AM »
In the Rocky mountains the 'off grid' requirement is guns and isolation.

--giantkiller. You are either a prisoner or expelled.

I'd take isolation and guns anyday--just give me a lab to work in and I'm happy! ;)

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Re: Otto`s replication of Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #78 on: April 27, 2007, 07:09:28 AM »
what i was trying to say,
you cannot just feed back more then 30A!!!! and more then 250V!!!! through a rectifier back into the power grid at any frequency...

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Re: Otto`s replication of Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #79 on: April 27, 2007, 02:03:06 PM »
Hello all,

Sorry, I have only a few minutes.

Yes, its possible to feed the power grid. Why not. I had a pumping at 5 - 10 Hz and my analog meters showed me a lot current and voltage. I dont see why this couldnt be possible.

We all should know that we can have in just 1 wire an AC and a DC signal...I dont know what signal I had in the moment when I feeded the power into the power lines but for sure I saw the output signals on my TPU. I saw almost a sinewave with a lot of hash.
But my oscillators worked with square waves!!!!  Comments???

Weekends Im offline so I can not respond.


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Re: Otto`s replication of Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #80 on: April 27, 2007, 03:51:49 PM »
Hi Otto,

First I would say that powering any experimental device directly from the power grid is a BAD IDEA! You're asking for trouble, especially when messing around with inductive devices.

If you're using a rectifier and a capacitor the only way you can dump power into the grid is by adding it as a DC component - and only when the AC voltage is below the DC voltage you supply (The rectifier makes sure this normally doesn't happen). This will saturate any item connected to the net, and you're likely to blow e.g. transformers if you keep it up as the DC dissapates power into the devices.

In order to supply usable power to the net you need to have the phases synchroniced, and then moving the phase a little in front of the phase from the net. This is something that requires extensive electronics, and isn't something you "just" do.

My suggestion is to use an insulated DC lab-power supply so you don't kill your self - or others who are interested in what's going on.

To measure any OU use a fully charged battery (12V car battery is great). Take some water, a suitable resistor and a thermometer. First place the resistor in the water and measure the water temperature (use room temperature destilled water). Dissapate energy until the battery voltage is dropping rapidly and measure the water temperature again. Calculate the amount of Joules supplied to the water. Charge the battery again the same way, and this time power the unit/TPU - and now the output from the unit goes to the resistor. Continue until you have the same battery voltage. Calculate the Joules, and if you end up with more than before - contragulations!  (Don't forget to let the water cool down) This is basic stuff tought in beginners physics. Meters can be tricked as they're usually mechanical devices with a slow response.

Happy experimenting - and don't forget: Electricity kills!

[Edit - Output should go to resistor, not battery  ;D]

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Re: Otto`s replication of Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #81 on: April 27, 2007, 04:24:19 PM »
Otto,

Sounds like you tapped into a torsion field of one of the earth grids.

Very impressive.  Keep it up.

(I think "pese" has info on torsion fields on his site.)

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Re: Otto`s replication of Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #82 on: April 27, 2007, 05:19:22 PM »
Otto, did your TPU have one big spike, followed by a slight maybe 1 or 2 ms gap, then a ringing that hovered under say 100v, but only diminished a little, to maybe 30v and hung there, until the next square wave pulse?

Grumpy, what is Pese's web site URL?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Otto`s replication of Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #83 on: April 27, 2007, 06:27:47 PM »
Pese's site:

http://www.stormloader.com/members/pese/links.html

Might be easier to search for:

"tempic field"
"Torsion field"
"telluric currents"

Radiant energy is a torsion field phenomenon. (torsion and tempic are term for same field)

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Re: Otto`s replication of Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #84 on: April 27, 2007, 06:57:49 PM »
Hello all,

Sorry, I have only a few minutes.

Yes, its possible to feed the power grid. Why not. I had a pumping at 5 - 10 Hz and my analog meters showed me a lot current and voltage. I dont see why this couldnt be possible.

We all should know that we can have in just 1 wire an AC and a DC signal...I dont know what signal I had in the moment when I feeded the power into the power lines but for sure I saw the output signals on my TPU. I saw almost a sinewave with a lot of hash.
But my oscillators worked with square waves!!!!  Comments???

Weekends Im offline so I can not respond.



No ,you cannot do this because it does not match the main frequency of the grid itself...

if you do so, you will cause permanent damage not only to your own equipment but also to that of all neightbours in the block....

all their transformers would go crazy or in the worst case explode due to the mutal inductions.

it's just stupid and by the way most fuses in homes are +\- 20 amps so you had to blow that one first with your 30A!!!!!!

Sauron.


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Re: Otto`s replication of Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #85 on: April 27, 2007, 10:48:07 PM »
Maybe Otto pumped all of that power into another grid...

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Re: Otto`s replication of Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #86 on: April 28, 2007, 12:03:40 AM »
...and by the way most fuses in homes are +\- 20 amps so you had to blow that one first with your 30A!!!!!!

Not if he had a penny stuck in it.   ;)

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Re: Otto`s replication of Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #87 on: April 28, 2007, 02:37:05 AM »
As a person who has designed and built grid tie and phase control circuitry you must have a number of circuit components in order to "pump power back through the grid". One is a zero crossing sensor which in turn tells you when and where to create your sine wave in phase with the grid power.

If you don't do this you smoke any component used to connect to the mains. The power being "pumped back into the grid" must be of sine wave of the same frequency and voltage (voltage within reason).

Unless I'm shown different that is the only way I personally know of doing it without creating lots of smoke.

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Re: Otto`s replication of Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #88 on: April 28, 2007, 02:56:38 AM »
Hello all,



I would say more time with his little test

and less time with one little detail of his experience which was a joke! (Be mindfull of humor in translation)

Perhaps It was going to the earth via the grid....it is not very important ..who got the power.

It is very important that he smoked a coil.




Lindsay Mannix

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Re: Otto`s replication of Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #89 on: April 28, 2007, 10:52:51 AM »
Hi Otto,
If you have extra power to feed back into the grid you need a grid tie-in inverter as used for solar panel arrays:
http://www.solarelectricsupply.com/Inverters/xantrex/sw.html

This one is not cheap but there are bound to be cheaper ones on the market.

Rob