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Author Topic: News from Steorn?  (Read 22436 times)

TheOne

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Re: News from Steorn?
« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2007, 11:32:25 PM »
i dont think its work since you need to push on a lever, the force applyed on this lever is probably the energy that make this rotate nothing more then one turn

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Re: News from Steorn?
« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2007, 12:23:37 AM »

argona369

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Re: News from Steorn?
« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2007, 02:14:11 AM »
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« Last Edit: September 11, 2007, 04:43:42 AM by argona369 »

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Re: News from Steorn?
« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2007, 02:31:00 AM »
Steorn's motives are not clear. Well, besides their need for public approval. To follow their non-disclosure has all the payoff of a wet T-shirt contest. They parade the goods, but nothing to take home. (c:

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Re: News from Steorn?
« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2007, 02:08:08 PM »
I'm not expecting much, but I wish they would get on with the show.

I read through the 250 posts on the Steorn link.  It sounds like whatever "effect" they have "discovered", it is so small that it would have been dismissed as instrument error 20 years ago (according to Steorn's post).  If the effect is so small it got lost in instrument noise for all these years, you have to wonder how it will scale.

I also conclude from the posts that the stop-start thing keeps restarting (self running).  But they sure don't try to make things clear.

helmut

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Re: News from Steorn?
« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2007, 11:04:29 AM »
Hello together
Yesterday i saw a You Tube Presentation via Keelynet.
The Vid shows a Magnet arrangement on a Zylinder and as far as i understood,they claim
to have a continously rotating thing build.
On the End of the Vid they guide you to steorn
Is this the ORBO Technology?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvHb41KP7To

Helmut

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Re: News from Steorn?
« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2007, 12:06:46 PM »
No,
it seems to be a faked, nonworking Perendev Motor...
you see it, when you analyze the video, he used a loop
and the rotor does not accelerate, as it should do in a
permanent magnet motor.

JackH

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Re: News from Steorn?
« Reply #22 on: April 28, 2007, 12:19:44 AM »
Hello all,

I'm sorry to say this, but the Steorn device is a Fake.  I found that out by looking real close at what they have.  It cannot possably work.

I spent severial years trying to make a magnet shilding device.  It allways takes more power to move the shield than the motor puts out.  In fact I tryed the very same thing that Steorn has tryed.   Never to work.

Sorry!!

Later,,,,,,,,JackH

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Re: News from Steorn?
« Reply #23 on: April 28, 2007, 02:09:57 AM »
i beleive you, from the only video available about this device,

1. the operator need to pull a lever to activate the device, the pull is the force used to activate it, then the device turn and stop, go to 1

Craigy

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Re: News from Steorn?
« Reply #24 on: April 29, 2007, 02:21:40 AM »
JackH, steorns stuff has nothing to do with LEMA's or low energy magnetic actuators. I'm afraid you are a bad judge of character.

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Re: News from Steorn?
« Reply #25 on: May 05, 2007, 03:28:11 AM »
I know this is slightly off topic, and I appologise, my only excuse is that I am not familiar enough with this site to place my question in the correct place.   

Maybe Stephan or one of the other senior members would be kind enough to show me where this should be placed.

My question is a simple one.   

Is it possible to make a movie of a PMM that would be skeptic proof.

I understand that one of the things is should have is to show a complete walk around of the machine during the complete acceleration phase.

Are there any other points that you require to satisfy you of the validity of a video.

Many thanks Frank

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Re: News from Steorn?
« Reply #26 on: May 07, 2007, 03:25:18 PM »
A complete walk-around video had been nice. However, one can never be sure if there is hidden energy source inside the device - or under it between the device and the floor/table. The device should be built, tested and rebuilt in one continous video, without interruptions. If it takes one hour doesnt matter. The alternative is to give us drawings so anyone can try to replicate the motor - physically or by simulation.
The motor also should drive a load for years without conciderably loosing magnetic force - which is ofcourse too much to place in one video ;D

Br.

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Re: News from Steorn?
« Reply #27 on: May 11, 2007, 06:59:19 AM »
A complete walk-around video had been nice. However, one can never be sure if there is hidden energy source inside the device - or under it between the device and the floor/table. The device should be built, tested and rebuilt in one continous video, without interruptions. If it takes one hour doesnt matter. The alternative is to give us drawings so anyone can try to replicate the motor - physically or by simulation.
The motor also should drive a load for years without conciderably loosing magnetic force - which is ofcourse too much to place in one video ;D

Br.

Vidar

Thank you Vidar I will think seriously about your suggestions.

I wont release the drawings just yet as I still have not decided about the whole patent vs open source debate.

I can see that open sourcing would work for a product like linux, which is continually developing by the community that uses it, but I cant see us all rushing out and making our own toasters or microwaves, even if the plans are open source.   It seems to me that machines require large numbers to make them financially affordable to the masses.   And if the plans for such a device are open sourced there will be nothing to stop any of the large manufacturing companies from churning them out as just another appliance.

As far as I can see open sourcing once I have a patent is the best of both worlds, as it gives it free to those who can build for themselves, but it prevents large corporations from profiting from what will eventually become just another household appliance.

Kind regards Frank


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Re: News from Steorn?
« Reply #28 on: May 11, 2007, 07:58:12 AM »
Hi Frank,
just ask the people to donate to you
their first month of saved electricity bill money,
if they have built your device...

You will probably get a lot of money this way...
and you could make much money from being famous then..

Regards, Stefan.

P.S. : Frank,
yes, a video should show your magnet motor
accelerate and not hide any parts and it should be
clear , that there are no hidden battery compartments somewhere
inside the machine.
So explain it all in detail with your voice and maybe
also disassemble in the video bigger parts, so one
could see, that there is no hidden battery anywhere.

Hope

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Re: News from Steorn?
« Reply #29 on: August 21, 2010, 10:06:01 AM »
Friggin so many comments cancelled by mouse actions.................blargh!