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Low-Q

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Re: Lutec small demo machine proof of overunity video
« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2007, 07:05:57 PM »
Hi ALl,
here is a  new video from Lutec Australia, which shows more
power output than input.
It is only a small model from their bigger machine.
Do you know if they have tried to attached a generator to the rod, and loop back power via the rectifier - originally used after the transformer - ?

If more power is getting out than putted in, it should definitly be possible to make this run without external power supply, or what ???

Br.

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Re: Lutec small demo machine proof of overunity video
« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2007, 04:04:25 PM »
I emailed them about the devices ability to power itself.  The reply:

"Cant power itself at this stage. It is not impossible that it will in the
future, it always needs an input."

I don't understand why a device that can produce so much power doesn't produce enough to power itself.  Shouldn't you be able to start it with a push of your hand and have it power itself.  Unless of course it isn't actually creating more power than it uses.

I also wonder why they are using a Hong Kong based company to accept investment.  Wouldn't a reputable company just list on the stock exchange and start selling shares?

It all smells pretty scamtastic to me.  But then they have only been pushing the same stuff for what, six years.  I wonder if their device will still be a few months away in another six years.

Low-Q

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Re: Lutec small demo machine proof of overunity video
« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2007, 07:38:50 PM »
In other words: It doesn't work.

Br.

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Re: Lutec small demo machine proof of overunity video
« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2007, 02:21:06 PM »
Well,
it is the same kind as the Newman machines.
These types of machines need a battery supply to
keep them running.

The battery is constantly recharged due to these
sparkings at the commutator.

This produces additional energy due to electron clustering
at the commutator contacts and thus the batteries don?t discharge.
To run these without batteries is not so easy, cause the recharge effect
also occurs due to slow movement of the ions inside the batteries....

So it will not just work with only charged capacitors.
The batteries play a major role in these devices....

As the commutator contacts are used up after a while
( they just burn up) this needs attention for a real sales
unit and they still work on this aspect.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Lutec small demo machine proof of overunity video
« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2007, 04:48:03 PM »
According to the Lutec site their device will work from mains power.

So I don't think a battery or the ions in it are part of the essential workings of their device.

Which brings us back to the question, if it produces more output than it needs as input why can't the output be fed back into it to keep it running?

The simplest answer would be that the device just doesn't work.

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Re: Lutec small demo machine proof of overunity video
« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2007, 03:10:21 PM »
A sad fact about these kind of machines is that force equals counterforce - for the time being. I am very suspicious to all devices which includes wires, batteries, transformers. Show us/me a pure working magnet motor, without any wires - and I will try to believe it is the real thing.

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Re: Lutec small demo machine proof of overunity video
« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2007, 05:59:42 PM »
According to the Lutec site their device will work from mains power.

So I don't think a battery or the ions in it are part of the essential workings of their device.

Which brings us back to the question, if it produces more output than it needs as input why can't the output be fed back into it to keep it running?

The simplest answer would be that the device just doesn't work.


Yes, it can also work from the main power grid,
if you use a power supply, which is
decoupled enough, so the back current spikes from the
mechanical commutator switching is rerouted into
the load circuit and thus produce more electrical power
out than electrical input power.
Of course this will only work,
if you have the right coils and magnet setups inside
the Lutec motor-generator.

Have a look at this:

http://www.lutec.com.au/lea_test.htm

http://www.lutec.com.au/video/lutec_LEA.wmv
http://www.lutec.com.au/video/lutec06.mpg

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Lutec small demo machine proof of overunity video
« Reply #22 on: February 19, 2007, 11:31:58 PM »
Following-on from an earlier comment ...

        hartiberlin wrote:
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        The battery is constantly recharged due to these sparkings at the commutator.

        This produces additional energy due to electron clustering at the commutator contacts and thus the batteries don?t discharge.  To run these without batteries is not so easy, cause the recharge effect also occurs due to slow movement of the ions inside the batteries....
        [?]
        As the commutator contacts are used up after a while ( they just burn up) this needs attention for a real sales unit and they still work on this aspect.

        Regards, Stefan.

I agree with arcing (spark-gaps) being a real candidate for the apparent "extra" energy.  This thesis is also supported by experiments shown at
        http://www.intalek.com/Index/Projects/SparkGapExp/SparkGapExp.htm
and at
        http://www.intalek.com/Index/Projects/MultiSparkGap/MultiSparkGapExp.htm

And, work done by Jean-Louis Naudin (and as related-to on his website) show even more examples of arcs producing additional energy, as well as transmutation of metals/materials.  In my limited knowledge, I know of
only one way to transmutate metals/materials and that is by some form of nuclear-reaction.  Beside the extra energy, the source material will be consumed: In this case, there is no "magic" but rather a something-for-something exchange.

The electron clustering is, as I understand things, another story :-)

Well, that's my two-bits worth ...
edo


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Re: Lutec small demo machine proof of overunity video
« Reply #23 on: February 20, 2007, 10:05:40 AM »
@ stefan
der test.htm
kann dieser Messung nach falsche Werte erbringen !!

Nur wenn nach dem Akku (Battery) das Wattmeter mit einem
Kondensator zur L.e.A. abgeblockt ist . Ist der angezeugte Wert
m?g?icherweise richtig.
Ein Wechselmagentfeld des Motorgenerators , kann so wie aufgezeigt , den Weg zur?ck zur Batterie ?ber Wattmeter "1"
finden und so kleinere (?) anzeigen , in jedemfall falsche Angabe.
Die DC Versorgung muss am EINGANG zur L.E.A. abgeblockt sein.


This way to metering is wrong. the DC Supply must be blocked on Input to LEA with Condensors ,against flyback power from
motorgenerator (inform AC/RF) back over wattmeter to the nattery-

Pese
« Last Edit: April 03, 2007, 07:47:40 PM by pese »

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Re: Lutec small demo machine proof of overunity video
« Reply #24 on: April 03, 2007, 05:30:29 AM »
This scared me when I saw it because it looked like a generator I am currently building.  I was thinking, crap someone has already done it!  But fortunately, after reading "how it works" on their website, this motor is a complete sham and nothing like what I am trying to do.  Hurray!