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Solid States Devices => solid state devices => Topic started by: Esa Maunu on March 31, 2007, 10:06:14 AM
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TPU is a system where phonon bosons are produced with a electrostriction, when pulsed HV field changes the size of the crystallic structures in a core material.
This crystallic material changes it`s size in a HV field that leads to acoustic phonon wave emission in a core material. Phonon acoustic mode wave is a quantum analogue to vibrational sound waves, and travels with a speed of sound in a medium. We can also build up a resultant field for the acoustic mode phonons in a waveguide ( TPU core ), where wavelenght and number of waves are a prime numbers,to minimize harmonics wave production.
The core material must made of material that contains crystalline structures, or it can be in a liquid form that contains crystallic particles,for exsample E48 bluephase liquid.
There can be some benefit, if we use a bias DC electric field to have crystals orientation into same direction.
Anyway, we must know the speed of sound in a core material, when we calculate dimensions for the TPU core. The needed HV field is created with a coil, where the pulse is reflected back and forth, and gains voltage up this way.This HV pulse we can call as a "kick", when it changes the size in a crystals, or with other words, this is called as electrostriction.
Regards,
Esa
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The MEG,without subestimation,is really ease to realize because we only need
to concentrate the theories of :
Braun,Minkowski,Wiener,Kauffmann,Planck,Schroedinger
and the inventions from Joseph C. Yater and Helmut Reichelt in
1 aggregate !
Congratulations to whom which will resolve this puzzle or patch-work ,
before 2015 !
I see the actual evolution to realize the OU-motor/generator-combination,
then as next step ideas like R.Alexander and/or R.Mukherjee = semi-rotatory/static !
Lieber die fette Taube in der Hand als die klaegliche Wachtel auf dem Dach !
Sincerely
de Lan?a
p.s.: 3,14159...-Sphere + 2,71828...-Sphere : REPRAP/VON NEUMANN/LAPLACE/
Rabbe Loew/ K.I.(A.I.)
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It is interesting to see how this phonon wave theory fits with the other claimed OU / AG devices. It seems that there is a question of the phenomena, how radial E-field affects to materia that has a crystallic structure. We have enough information available about electrostriction and the behaviour of the phonon waves in a phonon maser systems to check out if this is a answer.So far this looks very promising.This can be an explanation, how Testatika and SEG works, also it is very interesting to know, what were Nikola Teslas thoughts and goal when he build his HV coils..
Anyway, if you are interested to check out how this phonon wave phenomena fits to OU / AG devices, all research work,thoughts and conclusions are wellcome.
If this phonon phenomena is behind OU / AG devices working principles, it is relatively easy to calculate needed dimensions and make choices of the needed materials for OU / AG devices, when we know what we are looking for.
Regards,
Esa
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It seems that there is a question of the phenomena, how radial E-field affects to materia that has a crystallic structure. Regards,
Esa
Hi Esa,
Have you got some links for us to read about that. I think you're much more ahead on this whole phonen theory then most of us here. Please get us updated a bit..... :)
Robert
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Robert,
There is a lot of available info about phonon theory , i have also a lot of links, but information consists of smaller pieces on web-pages, that are important for us.
But important is that every AG / OU device has a pulsed HV E-field and has a waveguide, made of material that has a cubic crystalline structure.
Esa
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Esa Maunu,
When you say "HV field that leads to acoustic phonon wave emission in a core material" are you meaning the core that the coils are wrapped around? Does this mean that a crystalline structure core is needed to make a functioning TPU?
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Esa will not answer you. He has departed this earth. We are all sorry for that loss.
Moab.M
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Esa will not answer you. He has departed this earth. We are all sorry for that loss.
Moab.M
It was just a made up story. He/she is alive and well.
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Archon,
Yes, i mean that core material, where coils are wrapped around must be made of material that has crystallic structures, mixed with conductive epoxy.
This way we can have a system, where every cubic formed crystal pieces are connected like a battery cells in series ( piezo effect ), and are producing a DC voltage potential in between top and bottom of the toroid formed coil. Also output coils must be placed to top and bottom of the toroid.This way we can have a current loop to have power out from the system.
I am doing an excel calculation sheet to model tpu design with an explanation how nested cylindrical wave system is collecting energy from the environment .
Esa
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Archon,
Yes, i mean that core material, where coils are wrapped around must be made of material that has crystallic structures, mixed with conductive epoxy.
This way we can have a system, where every cubic formed crystal pieces are connected like a battery cells in series ( piezo effect ), and are producing a DC voltage potential in between top and bottom of the toroid formed coil. Also output coils must be placed to top and bottom of the toroid.This way we can have a current loop to have power out from the system.
I am doing an excel calculation sheet to model tpu design with an explanation how nested cylindrical wave system is collecting energy from the environment .
Esa
Is the concept you speak of the same as this, except without the nanotech?
http://www.physorg.com/news95001943.html
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Hello Esa,
Robert Henson
http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=US5252176&F=0
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Phillip Burns,
http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=US7098547&F=0
would be a nice test-configuration for the q.e.d. , or not ?
Sincerely
de Lan
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Archon,
Yes, i mean that core material, where coils are wrapped around must be made of material that has crystallic structures, mixed with conductive epoxy.
This way we can have a system, where every cubic formed crystal pieces are connected like a battery cells in series ( piezo effect ), and are producing a DC voltage potential in between top and bottom of the toroid formed coil. Also output coils must be placed to top and bottom of the toroid.This way we can have a current loop to have power out from the system.
I am doing an excel calculation sheet to model tpu design with an explanation how nested cylindrical wave system is collecting energy from the environment .
Esa
Does this mean that the frequency of the HV pulses have a direct relationship with the size/material of the core and not the coils?
If so this would explain some things, such as the fact a lot of people have wasted their time trying to match frequency with number of coil turns e.t.c
Also Esa what do you think of the statement posted recently, supposedly from Steven Mark, that the HV pulse generator must be located inside/within the coil and not external to it? Does this fit in with the Phonon Boson/waveguide theory?
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@Archon79,
What post was it that SM said "HV pulse generator must be located inside/within the coil..."?
Thanks,
~Dan
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Lindsay Mannix posted it as being from SM
Hi all,
I xpressed my frustration in how my instruments seem to go crazy when the most interesting combinations are used.
I hope things are calmed in your life when you receive this.
I fully understand your feelings of frustration. To work hard to see nothing of a positive is sometimes shattering to one's self.
I know very well... I had a great deal of help and it took us years just to develop a SS control system that would work! And this is after we knew how to make generators!!!
Let me tell you something which may be of some significance...
When I accidentally stumbled on a device that appeared to actually pull electrons from the sky, it was the ONLY working model for many months. I showed the thing to people and eventually got enough interest to get money and other engineers involved to crack the code so to speak, and be able to make more of them.
After I had the first operating unit I kept trying to make another one. It took me many many many tries just to duplicate the same unit and make it work!
I thought of everything... why couldn't I make another one that would work? I decided that there must be a few more turns of wire in the collector etc. We spent months trying to duplicate the first unit. we had money and engineering staff and we couldn't do it....
I was very afraid to dismantle the first and only working example of the device, which appeared to be the only way to see what the reason was as to why we couldn't duplicate the performance. But eventually after months of not being able to duplicate the first working model, we had no choice but to take it apart in hopes of finding out what was in the first one that we couldn't duplicate in the others which followed.
My point to this story is.... WE spent months and months trying in every conceivable way to duplicate a unit. The only thing that kept us going night and day was the fact that we already had one. We knew it was possible to have a working device.. It was the only thing that kept us going on the project. And even then we said I GIVE UP so many times I cant count.
We kept it up and eventually discovered the really STUPID reason why all of our duplicates wouldn't work. We then made many of the damn things in all sizes and shapes and then we tried to make a small control device which obviously had to be SS.
WEll, can you imagine how much hair we pulled out trying to figure out why we could NOT make a SS control device that would keep the Damn things on frequency!!!
We, NONE of us could think of a reason why SS devices would not work. After all they did the same things as tubes, just better, didn't they?
The reason it took soooooo long to make a successful SS control unit is because we maintained that attitude for so long. Finally we came to the conclusion that there must be SOMETHING that tube control devices did differently then SS devices. I had a friend who was a wiz-bang SS color TV expert. I asked him if he could give us some pointers on duplicating the tube control devices in a SS state device. His tips eventually pointed us in the right direction and we made SS control devices out of discreet devices which worked. Remember that this was before the big linear IC boom, so everything we did was with little discreet parts and big PC boards. By the way, we found out some very important things during our research that I am sure, very sure that none of the boys out their know about. The following is very interesting:
# 1. PC boards made out of different materials change the operating conditions of SS devices. # 2. Soldering the components at least 1/2 inch above the board itself is essential to making a good SS control unit out of discrete devices.
# 3. As you know, Large amounts of FEEDBACK is essential to frequency and control when using SS devices for everything in the electronics world, HOWEVER, it is the enemy of generators! If anyone ever gets one of these things operating, have them measure the electro magnetic and hash radio around the unit....it will blow your mind. so, what does that do to control devices in close proximity?
Why do you think we HAD to place our control devices in the middle of the operating coil? Listen: when these units get going they F**K with the control units, changing the signals they put out and receive. they have no choice but to get off frequency and shut down. In most cases they will not even start up.
TUBES are NOT as sensitive as SS control devices and DO NOT require the massive amounts of feed back to operate. There is an advantage in tubes just from that standpoint alone, not to mention all the other things I have mentioned in the past.
I told you guys long ago...
If just these two little things are important discoveries, how far off are all the guys out there trying design their own control devices? So tell them what I have said and listen to them all scream balderdash!! Haresy!!! And then you can tell them that we found out way back then... It is because the material some PC boards are made out of can absorb humidity... So.... depending on the conditions of humidity of the specific day, the boards would change the characteristics of the SS control circuits.
It took us a long time just to find that little thing out... we never thought of it. no one ever thought of it.... BUT, it turned out to be a very significant thing and so we used the absolute finest PC board material the government used in missiles and rockets... You see, even though no one knows about the PC board material being important to sensitive instruments and SS devices, the government did... So we learned, and learned...
And you and everybody else, God Willing, will learn too.
I am sorry it is so discouraging for you and others. The only thing that kept us going is the fact that we had a working unit to keep reminding us that it is possible. otherwise, we would NEVER have succeeded.
I have faith in you because you have understood from the beginning that i have reasons for telling you specific things. I mentioned at the beginning that, it was much easer to make one of these things work if you use tubes as a control system rather then SS devices. At least you took me seriously and because of that, I have faith in you.
Listen, do remember i mentioned that these things were in many ways like a COLOR TV in sophistication. not because of a massive amount of parts and discrete components, but because if one tiny little thing is off just a tiny little bit, the whole thing will stop working.
Just like a color TV. Now, how many different control systems and how many discrete devices were used in those individual control systems in the first color TVs?
Now, I ask you, what are these guys thinking about when they let their ego's force them to ignore things i have said in the beginning and go off trying to design and develop their own control devices using SS units. SS units which are OUTBOARD of the collector ring i might add? Some of them have gotten results and some of them have gotten big power surges and dissipation of heat... all of which is wonderful and certainly proves the point that there is truly something going on here. BUT, i guarantee you that their SS control devices are all sitting right beside the collector... aren't they? They will probably never start the coil and get to catalyst. I am not saying it is impossible, but it will Damn difficult for these guys to get more then a big bang once in a while. And just like me, that big bang will excite them enough to continue for a while longer. Maybe one of them will read back and see where I said the SS control device must be placed inside the collector coil. then they will explode with, MY GOD, maybe that is the reason why...... and off they will go. in the right direction at least.
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@Archon79,
What post was it that SM said "HV pulse generator must be located inside/within the coil..."?
Thanks,
~Dan
If we have a prime numbers for the wave numbers on cores circumference, it means that there can not be subharmonics frequencies inside the coil circumference, because there is no combinations with number of waves/ wavelenghts that can build field patterns inside cores circumference. This means that there is no disturbing fields inside the core, that can affect harmful to control electonics.
Esa
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Hello Esa,
Robert Henson
http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=US5252176&F=0
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Phillip Burns,
http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=US7098547&F=0
would be a nice test-configuration for the q.e.d. , or not ?
Sincerely
de Lan?a
With crystals we can find very interesting properties, only by adding a pulsed static E-field.This static field alone can bend the crystal and this leads to piezoelectric voltage output from the crystal.
Esa
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Does this mean that the frequency of the HV pulses have a direct relationship with the size/material of the core and not the coils?
If so this would explain some things, such as the fact a lot of people have wasted their time trying to match frequency with number of coil turns e.t.c
Also Esa what do you think of the statement posted recently, supposedly from Steven Mark, that the HV pulse generator must be located inside/within the coil and not external to it? Does this fit in with the Phonon Boson/waveguide theory?
Yes, it is a question with the size/material of the core, I see that coils are only used to direct an radial,pulsed E-field for the core, and in the core it happens that crystal structures are emitting phonon waves under applied E-field.
If we know the speed of sound in a core material, we can calculate a dimension for the core diameter.
In fact there must be more than one wave pattern around the core, so that first nested cylindrical field around the core has a same frequency as f1 control frequency has on the the core.
This leads to system, where frequency and phase is the same with first nested field, that exists on a distance 2x coil radius , and gives rise to energy transfer from the environment.
This is only a very short explanation.I have an excel calculation table to model and demonstrate this energy transfer system better.
Esa
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Is the concept you speak of the same as this, except without the nanotech?
http://www.physorg.com/news95001943.html
There are some basic properties that are the same, but with nested cylindrical fields around we can suck energy from the environment, and also we are using crystallic structures in a macro scale with the core.
Esa
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We received,some months before, the news about the "non exspected",
=against the actual known physics laws/rules, the accelerated behaviour of
Hydrogen in Nano-tubes ! Factor: 20000X
Quantum/Partikel-physics works with Tunneling/channels,
also there should be find the effect of co-/adhaesion-forces !
Centrifugal and peripetal.
Are this Nano-tubes not carbon-based,
is there not the transmutation stage from :ferrit-carbon-boron ?
What happened with the ferro-magnetic-effect/force by this transmutation ?
Esa,
W= hxf , h= "numerische Konstante" ,
without to introduce me into the Fermi-world,
can you explain me,X-dimensional, the structure-importance of "h" ?
Sincerely
de Lan?a
p.s.:
Helmut Reichelt ( from Schroedinger to the real Elektron-Gas-Cycle) works:
http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=DD287597&F=0
http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=DD208029&F=0
http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=US2004046700&F=0
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We received,some months before, the news about the "non exspected",
=against the actual known physics laws/rules, the accelerated behaviour of
Hydrogen in Nano-tubes ! Factor: 20000X
Quantum/Partikel-physics works with Tunneling/channels,
also there should be find the effect of co-/adhaesion-forces !
Centrifugal and peripetal.
Are this Nano-tubes not carbon-based,
is there not the transmutation stage from :ferrit-carbon-boron ?
What happened with the ferro-magnetic-effect/force by this transmutation ?
Esa,
W= hxf , h= "numerische Konstante" ,
without to introduce me into the Fermi-world,
can you explain me,X-dimensional, the structure-importance of "h" ?
Sincerely
de Lan?a
p.s.:
Helmut Reichelt ( from Schroedinger to the real Elektron-Gas-Cycle) works:
http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=DD287597&F=0
http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=DD208029&F=0
http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=US2004046700&F=0
Quantum gravitation is a next big problem to be solved in quantum physics, there are many phenomenas that we can not explain.
Planck constant, h was proposed in reference to the problem of black body radiation.
Black body radiation is a radiation that is still left, even if all the other type radiation sources are removed.Planck constant is a property of the space itself and is the most used constant in quantum physics.
Esa
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Here in www.overunity.com it is not possible to send files?
Anyway, i have my "work" model for the "tpu" ready, made to excel form.
This model explains not only the tpu but most of the OU / AG devices,so you can compare it to your systems and see, if there is some similarities.
I can send this file to you, if you see you need it,just ask it by my e-mail adress
esa.maunu@kolumbus.fi
Regards,
Esa
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Hello Esa,
do you like spherical music or shall we speak about thermal noise ?
Some "noise"-optimizer, offered by META-C-Corporation :
www.freepatentsonline.com/4860624.html
www.freepatentsonline.com/6178316.html
And introducing these "soundwaves-harmonizer"-Technologies to the Power plants :
http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=WO2006042106&F=0
Sincerely
de Lan?a
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"Here in www.overunity.com it is not possible to send files?"
Do you mean is it possible to attach files to your posts? If so, there's a section below where you write your post that enables you to browse your computer for files to be attached.
Les.
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Esa,
I sent you an Email; I am eagerly awaiting the "TPU work file"! :)
You make me want to get a PhD in physics so that I can fully understand these ideas! ;D
Eldarion
By the way, here is a pretty good explanation of phonons and phonon theory:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonon
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Esa,
Thank you for sending the file. Would it be possible to post a diagram of the proposed TPU structure? I am not clear where I would have to apply the static and pulsed HV fields, or where the collector couls would go. :) I have plenty of electronic equipment at my disposal, including a 20kV+ high-voltage DC generator, and would be happy to post results and pictures of my experiments, if you would send me a diagram.
Thank you!
Eldarion
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Hello Esa glad to See you live and well :): the chrystilen structures of different metals is interesting , my choice is aluminum for this reason the structure is most common to the electron casein for induction of is structure. the ether effects allow it to basically float on the surface and the natural attraction allows it to stay there. In looking at SM TPU i fell that the coil should be on a flat plane . like the rings on Saturn . This causes a magnetic Field that creates a larger core center and not so polar this in-turn could pull the molecules from the center area creating a void . on the out side of the flat aluminum plates above and below the coil I'll be experimenting with a ring and later add a coil to see if i can open the void farther. I feel when i can get the void open then the unit will be self substaining if no blow myself up in the process. Ther is a mechanisim I'l be putting in the center to control this affect. Thank you for the spread sheet Mike
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Esa: some years ago in one of my research projects I took pure quarts granules and vaporised them in a static discharge chamber with aluminum. This enhanced the electrical property's of the material. My thought is that I take liquid silicon and make more granules 3 to 4 microns form in a toroid and bake in a microwave oven in a bisk cruseable , this may give us some information on a small unit to test with. The electrical property's are very good in holding residual electrons. The quartz came from old Ziess optics I crushed up and had some from Bell labratories this was the highest quality i could find. I also feel that this would give us a purer toriod than useing epoxys.
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Esa: some years ago in one of my research projects I took pure quarts granules and vaporised them in a static discharge chamber with aluminum. This enhanced the electrical property's of the material. My thought is that I take liquid silicon and make more granules 3 to 4 microns form in a toroid and bake in a microwave oven in a bisk cruseable , this may give us some information on a small unit to test with. The electrical property's are very good in holding residual electrons. The quartz came from old Ziess optics I crushed up and had some from Bell labratories this was the highest quality i could find. I also feel that this would give us a purer toriod than useing epoxys.
Hi,
I am planning also to build a liquid core, there are many advantages with liquid core system. I see that AlMn granules would be a good canditate here, because of the high electrostriction property. Also good acoustic conductivitiy is important in a core material.
The best granule form is a cubic form.
Electrical conductivity plays a role in a core material also, we must have a current loop in a system, if output power is collected from the coils that exsists on top and bottom of the core. The control coil lenghts around the core must be less than the input wavelenghts.
Esa
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Here is an article about electrostriction in quasicrystals to clarify the behaviour of crystals under applied E-field
http://www.edpsciences.org/articles/jp1/pdf/1991/10/jp1v1p1451.pdf?access=ok
Esa
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Here is the latest version of excel tpu phonon calculator to determine the needed frequensies and dimensions for tpu.
Esa
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Esa your a good perso : as i see the coils unon 1, the same phase wiil be different , no two colis are the same so the diffreal phaise is out of tuen, acctually this is good, if that were to happne it my dissinagrate ,poof we no more . we eed to propergate the rings in one and phase them in the magete state therefore we can be in energy current. if you look at my statement in GK's PDF migratethe LMD course to max potencia 5kz then 3 kz then 7.8 kz is potencia output . the thig is the 2 mag feilds occilate iside each other . naturatil this is the protron way we ca't alter that we multipulat that. tesla dule cone 157.8 1/4 wave ratio 4-1 ....the widing equles the mass of the secondary.....flat wind ..sedc.. cap..eq 4m3 of mass > df ,lmd ....mass ag not leigth ..you said that but you did not say it in your print. ? baltioc geophicis?
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Esa: some years ago in one of my research projects I took pure quarts granules and vaporised them in a static discharge chamber with aluminum. This enhanced the electrical property's of the material. My thought is that I take liquid silicon and make more granules 3 to 4 microns form in a toroid and bake in a microwave oven in a bisk cruseable , this may give us some information on a small unit to test with. The electrical property's are very good in holding residual electrons. The quartz came from old Ziess optics I crushed up and had some from Bell labratories this was the highest quality i could find. I also feel that this would give us a purer toriod than useing epoxys.
Wingate - as in WIN cells?
As in... http://www.keelynet.com/interact/archive/00000694.htm ?
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Esa i have the cubes machined and things are going well . useing 4 inch dia al disks at 110.00 vdc 17 kz spinning by air frame 70.ooo rpm
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The method how TPU converts energy from external magnetic field is done by taking a precession energy from electron, when electron is wobbling under phonon pulse. Sharp phonon pulse comes from magnetostrictive material, when control coils makes an magnetic field around composite core material, that includes both ferromagnetic and magnetostrictive particles.
This created sharp phonon pulse we can call also as a "kick", when it pushes electron precession to wobble. When electron`s precession axis direction is changed from the direction of the external magnetic field lines, electron releases a part of it`s energy in a form of photon. Photon is now a energy carrier and is able to give it`s energy to free electron, that exsist`s on collector wire. To start the tpu, there needs to be free electrons available on collector coil for photons energy, this can be done by applying a bias current to collector coil.
This technology is used also with electron tubes, when photon`s energy is transferred inside the electron tube.
Idea with a TPU is that we need only a realtively small amount of enegy in a control coil to wobble electron precession and have a energy emission in a form of photon. External magnetic field during pulses moves electron precession axis back to be in parallel direction with a magnetic field and gives it`s energy again to electron.
Also SEG works with this principle, when deformation in a crystallic metal releases phonon pulses as rollers are moving around the stator.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photoelectric_effect
Esa
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One big benefit with the use of earth`s magnetic field in a tpu is it`s equal strenght on a small area like tpu is.
Because electron precession frequency is directly proportional to external magnetic field strenght, so this gives a very coherent photon emission, when electron precession wobbling is caused by a phonon field. In fact, when we use composite material as a core material, mixed with magnetostrictive and ferromagnetic powder, we have thousands of small photon transducers that radiates evenly around the tpu, with the same wavelenght. This is not like a conventional dipole antenna, but like all antennas, this antenna is reciprocal also ( can both send and receive energy ).
Esa
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If we have a prime numbers for the wave numbers on cores circumference, it means that there can not be subharmonics frequencies inside the coil circumference, because there is no combinations with number of waves/ wavelenghts that can build field patterns inside cores circumference. This means that there is no disturbing fields inside the core, that can affect harmful to control electonics.
Esa
Esa,
Does using wavelengths that are a prime number reduce the harmonics that can occur in sine wave oscillators or does this only hold true related to your above statement?
I enjoy reading your posts - your explanations are very informative.
-Duff
When number of waves are primes in a circular path, there is no place for subharmonics to build up.
Input frequency must be coherent, if you have a input signal that contains many harmonics, it means that there are a lot of different frequensies, and some of those frequensies can form subharmonics frequensies.
Thanks,
Esa
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There is one thing that tells us there is a force in a space ( zpe or more precisely dark energy ); it is a precessing effect for all mass that has a spin. Even earth, when it rotates , has a precession around rotating axis. This same phenomena exists also at quantum level, where almost all the particles have a spin. Precession is tightly connected to magnetic moment, that many particles have.
If we can put this precession into unbalanced state by external field ( phonon push ) , zpe must do the work to put precession again to be parallel to external force. This is a way, how we can extract enrgy from the zpe.
Esa