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sushimoto

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #375 on: January 31, 2009, 08:28:03 PM »
@PL

Hi,

A am a "Newbie" in this forum and because of this,
the OpenSource-Community may allow me some simple, maybe stupid questions.

1. What exactly is the essence of tenthousands of posts and threads?
Nobody "Newbie" can read all this in order to "filter" valueable information.
Lots of threads starting with an good Idea or Concept,
getting mixed offtoppic with different good ideas and ending up almost in nothing because the originator
was tired of arguing or even offended and maybe suppressed.
Some of the good people having their own forums now.
Do they have reached OU? And we just dont know.

2. If there is no OU here, do we have at least any other insightful findings in the community?
So if we do not have OverUnity, is there at least any "NearToUnity"? Maybe some 99% effective Motor or Generator?
i.E. I do always read about the "sticky point" on MagnetMotors.
So why not overcome it with a Coil/SolarCell or an 99% electromotor or "jule-thief" or such?
Everything is better than the 160years old combustion engine.

3. Where are working prototypes?
Dont you think, instead of spreading "Words" and "DVDs",
a promised working concept would have much more impact, if it is distributed as a small working model?
As an investor, i would not having problems, to pay a fair amount for that.
I would not pay a dime for another book or another DVD which probably is stealing my precious lifetime.
i.E. Look at "magnacoaster". Why is he not selling small "table units" with 500 Watts?
Im shure, i could have sold thousands so far. If I can verify something in its smallest scale, I'll pay much more for the real thing.

I do have more stupid questions, but I dont want to bother you with all of them at once.

*smile*

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #376 on: January 31, 2009, 08:38:28 PM »
For instance, take Thane Hine's thread, or Gotoluc's water spark threads. They were certainly not ignored!
Thane does not have a *self-running* machine.

Obviously any group that's does not want global "free energy" would heavily monitor the "free energy" forums. If you want to be certain, then "free energy" forums should be the last place to post a confirmed self-running machine. There's nothing wrong with letting the inventor spend a few hours first handing out the DVD's and then post the machine design details on "free energy" forums.

PL
« Last Edit: February 01, 2009, 04:38:21 AM by PaulLowrance »

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #377 on: January 31, 2009, 08:45:59 PM »
Listen, there's no misunderstanding what we are talking about here and that at present there are no published replication details of a self-running machine. I'm not talking about a machine that requires massive car batteries to run and that produces milliwatts and requires years to see if it produces more power than the batteries. I'm talking about a machine that is obviously a self-running "free energy" machine.

Such a machine doesn't need people to confirm it. If a person has such a machine, and they're going to play around by posting it here and there waiting for people to tell them that their 1KW output machine that is running by itself is a thumbs up, then forget it. Sorry, but that person is dumb to take such a chance.

PL

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #378 on: January 31, 2009, 09:01:44 PM »
Listen, there's no misunderstanding what we are talking about here and that at present there are no published replication details of a self-running machine. I'm not talking about a machine that requires massive car batteries to run and that produces milliwatts and requires years to see if it produces more power than the batteries. I'm talking about a machine that is obviously a self-running "free energy" machine.

Such a machine doesn't need people to confirm it. If a person has such a machine, and they're going to play around by posting it here and there waiting for people to tell them that their 1KW output machine that is running by itself is a thumbs up, then forget it. Sorry, but that person is dumb to take such a chance.

PL

I agree with all of you :) Sorry for being sparse but I have been real busy especially these last few days :) Anyways - does all of above mean that if these boards are heavily monitored that "they" are watching me? LOL ... well - good news is, I am well and alive - even thus far and have never been approached by anybody to keep my trap shut or to buy me out so I think no one anymore really cares or they are to retarded to find me - maybe also because I am not using my real name :) or I am just plain retardedly lucky - maybe I also give an impression that I am just blowing a whole lot of hot air and that I could not possibly ever built such thing and if that it most likely won't work ... I don't know but I have not noticed anything unusual around me ... or maybe they will wait til my next visit in the US and wait for me at the Airport .... I dunno ... should I be worried?

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #379 on: January 31, 2009, 09:08:11 PM »
should I be worried?

If you have a machine that could provide endless mobile power for just a one time cost of the machine, then you better believe you should be both worried and excited.

PL

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #380 on: January 31, 2009, 09:19:02 PM »
You are right,

but silly as I am to follow magnacoaster or ThaneHeins stuff,
for me it would be great "Overunity" if I could power my house for one year with two "AA" Batteries.
That would be a nice side effect of the quest for "true" Overunity.
Thanes work and attitude is great. I like him.
magnacoaster is maybe ether a fraud or just on the wrong road looking
for big $$ instead of making this a better world.


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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #381 on: January 31, 2009, 09:26:44 PM »
.... I dunno ... should I be worried?

Pleeeeeezzzz send me one, before THEY come and catch you or you get totally insane by paranoia.*g*

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #382 on: February 02, 2009, 12:18:54 AM »
@jadaro2600

why wouldn't you free the world of energy bills,if you could.
KEEP FREE ENERGY   FREEEEEEEE ;D

cat

Stumbling upon a free energy machine is going to be like lighting up a joint in a police station, as US police station.  Since I reside here in the US, and their corporation control most every aspect of energy consumption and production, then it stand to reason that a large part of the economy is governed by it's economic stability; If i were to releasse some sort of free energy device, the economy might realize that it has no ground to stand on, and thus, an imment economic collapse would be there - not that it isn't already.

There are two things that I belive are a sign of the end of the world:
THe legalization of marjiuana,
and a discovery of a free energy machine.

Both of these things would mean and end to logic and sustenance respectively.

OUr woulrd economy coulnd't handle a bunch of scared oil barron's thinking their cash flow is going to cease - i was under the impression that the recent rise in oild prices was as a result of an immenent revelation in energy - and then there's this economic depression.  for 6 to 7 year the energy producing nation and corporations of the world have sat around collect record-breaking profits; don't you find this a bit suspicious, as if they've been warned about an FE machine.

Such a machine would need a transition - it would probably be a radical change from what we normally use - hence, it would cause economic trauma - more so than currently.

I'm not speaking against free energy, I'm speaking against idiocy.

There's also the chance that such a free energy device may have an inherent danger built into it that goes undiscovered until it's too late - like the production of radioactivity, or perhaps it collapses the earth's magnetic field around it causing earthquakes, or maybe it tares a hole in the ionosphere above it causing other previously existing technologies to fail.

The idea reminds me of those news stories about meth labs exploding.

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #383 on: February 02, 2009, 01:46:38 AM »
@jadaro2600

Are you serious?

Dont you realize, that the USA already has an economic desaster?
Much to much are depending on credits which could never be payed back...

What, if somebody outside the US will pop up with some alternative source of energy?
Of course, that will have an great impact on stock-market and the oil-burning industry.
Oil is not just driving big-block-muscle-cars an tanks.
Every barrell contains medicine, food, clothing, plastics,...... time to stop burning it.

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #384 on: February 02, 2009, 02:10:33 AM »
@jadaro2600

Are you serious?

Dont you realize, that the USA already has an economic desaster?
Much to much are depending on credits which could never be payed back...

What, if somebody outside the US will pop up with some alternative source of energy?
Of course, that will have an great impact on stock-market and the oil-burning industry.
Oil is not just driving big-block-muscle-cars an tanks.
Every barrell contains medicine, food, clothing, plastics,...... time to stop burning it.

I suppose you're right, we DO have an economic crisis on our hands.

Consider the intellectual property situation in China.  if a free energy device comes from anywhere, it's most likely going to come from there.  And I expect that there will be a war because China isn't being very forthcoming with the enforecement of WIPO law.  This is exactly what the cartels want - more war, more profit, while they sit in their dumb bases and tax sheltered isolated panic rooms.

A free energy device would actually decrease the demand for oil over the long run and make it more appealing as a production mechanism for plastics and other materials.  There's a lot more to oil than just gasoline and lubrication.  A decreased over-all price would mean a higher yield on research due to lower costs - at current stance, there is a high price because of demand pull in multiple directions.

You can also consider the ramification of the industry with regard to China and the US in terms of the steel industry.  Production here has practically been susidized as a result of China's increased production of steel.

Some time ago I sat in on a lecture about poor quality steel SAE certified parts coming from china, apparently they were put on some US made rocket being put into space and the steel bolts failed because of poor quality control, and of all things a Lead content in excess of standards- Lead! ..again with china and the Lead!

This is all, of course, changing the topic, the real prize for an OU device isn't going to be worth it - sure, it's a perk, but the people who would suffer for a time ...  my point is, nearly the entirety of this forums should fall under the category of half-baked ideas.  People don't use their abilities to audit themselves once they have a good thing going - post a collection of information in the uploads section and go tell it on the mountain - open source, eventually you may get more than just the OU prize, you may get something even better.

My fear is that something much worse will come if it shortly after - a time of great tribulation followed by a time of suffering; I blame it all on the nature of homeostasis.

Over unity is an idea of boundless free energy, the rest of the logical world with fixed currencies, borders, rights being trumped one over another, and other such limitations pose quite an opposite to what is currently in practice.

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #385 on: February 02, 2009, 02:15:18 AM »
Have you ever stopped to think that there might already be an over unity device, that it could already be in use and powering your house right now - if it were a nationally guarded secret, you'd never have access to it - and given the state of internal affairs right now, if you found out about it, you'd likely be thrown in jail.

You should all consider free energy o looser in an energy a coup in the making circa the oil crisis of the 60 - 70's.

Surely, if someone patented a way around it, it would become a national secret; there would be no surprises if the inventor vanished.  The patent office is slow, even to publish applications; most likely for this reason alone.

...and they take your 'protection' money.

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #386 on: February 02, 2009, 05:38:59 AM »
Anyone economist who knows anything will tell you that economies *always* adapt to change. The economy would quickly adapt to global "free energy."  "Free energy" would open up an unimaginable amount of new fields. "Free energy" would eventually cause an rise in economy.

My "free energy" designs are 100% safe. It's a transformer made of ordinary materials. The energy is ambient thermal energy that exists in all mater all the time. In fact, such "free energy" machines would be far safer than any non-green energy. Oil and nuclear energy *adds* heat to Earth. My designs merely *move* ambient thermal energy. There would be NO adding or removal of any energy on the planet. It would be the best green reusable clean energy source.

IMO people are too smart for scare tactics now.

PL

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #387 on: February 02, 2009, 02:15:18 PM »
Anyone economist who knows anything will tell you that economies *always* adapt to change. The economy would quickly adapt to global "free energy."  "Free energy" would open up an unimaginable amount of new fields. "Free energy" would eventually cause an rise in economy.

My "free energy" designs are 100% safe. It's a transformer made of ordinary materials. The energy is ambient thermal energy that exists in all mater all the time. In fact, such "free energy" machines would be far safer than any non-green energy. Oil and nuclear energy *adds* heat to Earth. My designs merely *move* ambient thermal energy. There would be NO adding or removal of any energy on the planet. It would be the best green reusable clean energy source.

IMO people are too smart for scare tactics now.

PL

Safety is our first concern.

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #388 on: February 02, 2009, 03:47:44 PM »
I suppose you're right, we DO have an economic crisis on our hands.

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This is all, of course, changing the topic, the real prize for an OU device isn't going to be worth it - sure, it's a perk, but the people who would suffer for a time ...  my point is, nearly the entirety of this forums should fall under the category of half-baked ideas. 
You are right, thats obvious. But look at the older threads.
Some of the most promising concepts and projects suddenly stopped and went hidden, leaving it "half baked" to the public.
Why that? Is this Community not able to concentrate and follow one concept?
I would really like to work through all of them and ask "Where is the conclusion?"
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People don't use their abilities to audit themselves once they have a good thing going - post a collection of information in the uploads section and go tell it on the mountain - open source, eventually you may get more than just the OU prize, you may get something even better.
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You may get a better World? Absolutely!
How many people worldwide dont even have electricity? 2 billion?
Ghandi did not ask for any Prize, Fame or $$$. Maybe there will be a OU-Ghandi on the hill? Hopefully.
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Have you ever stopped to think that there might already be an over unity device, that it could already be in use and powering your house right now - if it were a nationally guarded secret, you'd never have access to it - and given the state of internal affairs right now, if you found out about it, you'd likely be thrown in jail.
Conspiration theories, vanishing inventors, and suppression is almost coming from the USA and therefore american people are mostly scared.
i.E. If the Mathernika is real, would anybody bomb their village in Linden/Swizerland?
Maybe there is another "positive" conspiration group; Like the OU-Templer. People which are already using free energy in secret places.

@PL
Agree. Time is right.
Information can be spreaded fast enough via the internet. The internet is our hill to cry out loud.
No way for NSA or CIA or such to kill somebody in front of a patent office.
No way for scare tactics.

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There is no safety aspect on people experimenting with magnets and DIY-stuff.
I would rather be scared about what CERN is doing.
... Trying to play with antimatter and black holes.
CERN is starting 2012 again. I cannot follow what they are really doing, but it sounds really dangerous.


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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #389 on: February 02, 2009, 05:12:03 PM »
Some of the most promising concepts and projects suddenly stopped and went hidden, leaving it "half baked" to the public.
Why that? Is this Community not able to concentrate and follow one concept?
Is that true? If so then it's a day to celebrate because then and only then will someone have a chance at getting the "grand smoking gun" (a self-running "free energy" machine that produces usable amounts of power) into public hands.



@PL
No way for NSA or CIA or such to kill somebody in front of a patent office.
I would predict the person wouldn't even make it to the patent office.


No way for scare tactics.
Already done!  They've tried scare tactics on me and countless others from Bruce DePalma to Bedini.



PL