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PaulLowrance

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #345 on: December 22, 2008, 05:32:00 PM »
The idea of a challenge/award to encourage people is good. Although there are still some issues with the present challenge/aware. You have to make two machines, mail to them off across the globe, all at your own expense, no?  And it sounds like you'll never get your machines back. And I see no limit to how long they can keep your machines. And do you blame them?  They want to be certain it's the "smoking gun," that you're not pulling a fast one before giving away their hard earned money. There are two sides to this.

Personally, I wouldn't bother with a challenge/prize unless the total cost for two machines and shipping was less than $50 because I would feel like I'm just throwing away 50 dollars while getting my hopes up. Rather, I would put 100% concentration on getting nearby people to replicate my machine. Knowing what I know today, I would stay clear of posting online a "smoking gun" machine that produced usable amounts of energy! That may upset a few people here. IMO, the real deal, a legit "smoking gun" may get a few people online replicating it, but if it's a machine that will give people around the world "free energy," then you'll get people at your back door step, and they aren't going to talk much.

There is nothing like a real live demo in person!!  They can hear your words, see your body language, get a good feel if you are lying to their face while you talk to them eye to eye. They can see the machine, at least know you built it.  They can pick up on your enthusiasm. You can assure them that you're not selling *anything* to them. If you take your machine in a public park or wherever you could demo it to thousands of people in a 19 hour day. You can hand out thousands of papers that describes how to replicate your machine in extreme detail, asking for people to help replicate and spread the word.

PL

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #346 on: December 22, 2008, 06:49:35 PM »
Ok, here is how my version goes:

I am building 1 machine for now - however a second is in the works (only for backup purposes and as a "life insurance"), I am not shipping to nowhere, anyone who wants to see such device in action will unfortunately have to inconvenience himself to show up wherever the demo happens to be. GPL/Open Source? Not with me - just ain't going to be happening. I am more than generous giving advice and pointer in the right direction but I will not be "serving everyone free energy on a silver platter ready for consumption". If someone says that they do not want to recognize my work and achievements and I do not qualify for any price of any kind - then so be it. But I did invest a lot of money and time and research to make it happen and I do set the terms on which people can come and see the device in operation. All electronics and circuitry will be nicely packaged in non-transparent housings and all I will do is prove the actual concept that the machine runs entirely off the grid, makes it's own energy and produces a significant amount of excess energy (definitely more than 50W) - thats all I am obliged to prove. I am sorry if my device is a tad bit complex and will not be open source but this is just how it has to be - if you give people all the answers readily for free - they will start lacking appreciation for you and your efforts before you know it. I am speaking out of first hand experience.



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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #347 on: December 22, 2008, 07:24:00 PM »
That reminds me. I forgot to mention --> Once the designs how to build the machine has spread world wide, then you can make your billions of $. The "free" design is a simple design. You design version 1.1, which is a slightly improved version, perhaps better parts, or whatever, which will only be sale.

This v1.1 will be for sale. You get a patent or provisional patent. Most people around the world have zero intensions of making their own machine. They just want to buy it, have an electrician come out and start using it, period!

You will make more money then you could ever want. This greedy path will get you one place. It will get you 6 feet under the ground. I live an isolated life, have been threatened by far too many "thugs" to know better. People like to throw out the old joke, "Oh, the MIB's are going to get you."  Well, keep laughing and try to market a legit machine.

There's nothing wrong with be cautious. Such an inventor should think. Think about it for awhile.

Regards,
PL

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #348 on: December 22, 2008, 07:29:32 PM »
I have this all thought out, but not typed. Some more details: On the paper that you will xerox and hand out to thousands of people should include text, at the end of the paper, that is in hexadecimal that contains your full name and address encrypted. That's your proof that you're the owner of the design.

I'm telling you people, this is the only way to get past "The Group."

PL

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #349 on: December 22, 2008, 07:59:44 PM »
Here's a post on how to encrypt your text -->
http://greenselfreliantenergy.com/forum/index.php?topic=95.0

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #350 on: December 22, 2008, 08:02:51 PM »
@all
 
 when OU works,  it will be on the internet

it's a matter of time,  stay tuned

KEEP FREE ENERGY   FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ;D


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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #351 on: December 22, 2008, 08:04:33 PM »
Hi members, hi peterpierre

hmm - if you really have found the long searched untit wich produce free energy with high power
you will be the greatest man of the world, the best scientist, the guru of energy.
If not, you are just one-of-the-tousands who claims this the last 50 years but showed
just "black boxes" and sells "working plans" to "believers".
Not just one of this "intventions" are availabe up to now - all surpressed by
industry / governments ??? - hmmm.

Maybe the reason is just simpler - these units does not work as expected.

Any real research can only work if you allow pros AND cons - a discussison is always very
uneffective if you only allow pros and supress cons.

More effective in searching for clean energy is the way (as example) PaulLowrance
(and many others) does it.
He had an idea, think about it and discuss it (if you want)
- this is the way real inventions are done.
You do not want positive ideas born from productive discussions, you just want believers.

This award from Stefan is ONE way to bring things forward - and not a bad one!
Shure, i does not agree with some terms, but it is his award and therfore he makes the rules.
But i know Stefan good enough to know, that he is open to pros AND cons.

If anybody wants to go his own way - its ok, why not!

Now i just wait for the world wide press release of your FE Generator....

Helmut

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #352 on: December 22, 2008, 08:12:45 PM »
I was not trying to fire at you (at least not on purpose), but I felt a negative vibe in your previous post in trying to tell everyone that such thing is not really possible and then trying to justify why it is not possible. What you said in your previous post is everything else "but constructive" thats the only reason why I reacted in that way and as to how I will handle the whole situation, well - that is still to be determined, I prefer to focus on the final touch-ups and the device than worrying about any price moneys or what people think or how to market it or what to do with it - those things I will be dealing with when I am done, until then it's just the device and me. Thank You :)

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #353 on: December 22, 2008, 08:40:01 PM »
I don't mean to bud in a conversation, but just wanted to say peterpierre, I hope you succeed brother!  If you don't want to give away a cheap and simple version first, and want to try to market it, then lots of *luck*.  I just can't see it happening. Steorn is a company and they couldn't even get a pre-publicized demo to work. No offense to Steorn, but I had to laugh when they announce their demo. While in college I wrote antenna analysis software based on the NEC numerical analysis engine. So I know for fact that a high beamwidth yagi small microwave antenna with a simple 10KW microwave generator while pointed at the Orbo from an appreciably far distance could easily heat up their micro bearings. They had zero chance of succeeding. Now most think Steorn is a joke, a scam artist company. Their Africa pump failed as well. My friend, you think you can outwit "The Group?"  Man, you have no idea how much I wish that were true, just market the device and happily sell them to the world.  Sorry, but "Not Going To Happen!"  My method is one of the few methods that has a chance. Give away the first version, a cheap and simple version. Then sell a more complex better version.

For people who think the problem is because it's impossible to capture such energy, just go to website. For 12 months now I have challenged skeptics. My diode array, with no source of power beside natural ambient thermal energy, is producing a DC voltage across a load. I've challenged countless scientists to show the mathematics that a diode produces zero DC voltage from Johnson noise. They can't because the best conventional mathematics based on semiconductor physics, which is based on quantum physics (see my site for the math) clearly shows that a diode must rectify Johnson noise. Even the acclaimed Genius, Mike Englehardt, creator of LTspice, said that I'm correct, that the mathematics shows diodes rectify Johnson noise.  Even so, I have failed to find a reputable conventional scientist to analyze my diode array.

PL

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #354 on: December 22, 2008, 09:10:29 PM »
The one who makes THIS work deserves the prize, in my humble opinion. It was already done by the egyptians, so it can be replicated:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6372.0;topicseen

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #355 on: December 31, 2008, 07:01:56 AM »
Would anyone reveal a such device for that amount of money?
« Last Edit: December 31, 2008, 07:53:05 AM by mr2 »

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #356 on: January 15, 2009, 11:14:23 PM »
I don't mean to bud in a conversation, but just wanted to say peterpierre, I hope you succeed brother!  If you don't want to give away a cheap and simple version first, and want to try to market it, then lots of *luck*.  I just can't see it happening. Steorn is a company and they couldn't even get a pre-publicized demo to work. No offense to Steorn, but I had to laugh when they announce their demo. While in college I wrote antenna analysis software based on the NEC numerical analysis engine. So I know for fact that a high beamwidth yagi small microwave antenna with a simple 10KW microwave generator while pointed at the Orbo from an appreciably far distance could easily heat up their micro bearings. They had zero chance of succeeding. Now most think Steorn is a joke, a scam artist company. Their Africa pump failed as well. My friend, you think you can outwit "The Group?"  Man, you have no idea how much I wish that were true, just market the device and happily sell them to the world.  Sorry, but "Not Going To Happen!"  My method is one of the few methods that has a chance. Give away the first version, a cheap and simple version. Then sell a more complex better version.

For people who think the problem is because it's impossible to capture such energy, just go to website. For 12 months now I have challenged skeptics. My diode array, with no source of power beside natural ambient thermal energy, is producing a DC voltage across a load. I've challenged countless scientists to show the mathematics that a diode produces zero DC voltage from Johnson noise. They can't because the best conventional mathematics based on semiconductor physics, which is based on quantum physics (see my site for the math) clearly shows that a diode must rectify Johnson noise. Even the acclaimed Genius, Mike Englehardt, creator of LTspice, said that I'm correct, that the mathematics shows diodes rectify Johnson noise.  Even so, I have failed to find a reputable conventional scientist to analyze my diode array.

PL

I was not questioning anyones views and beliefs nor will I ever do that, sure I am considering to release a simplified version of the device but even the larger version is so simple that a simplified version would be very easy to scale up, the only hurdle one would have to overcome is the cost of the materials needed and the cost of the machining of the unit - other than that it is a very straight forward system to begin with and the more one ges through the whole concept the more it also makes sense, it is a minor detail but it was either overlooked or deliberately left out of many instructional manuals, but I'll get to that. Dun worry guys nothing is lost - I'm still alive :)

PaulLowrance

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #357 on: January 15, 2009, 11:55:29 PM »
peterpierre,

Sounds good. Is this a self-running "free energy" machine?

PL

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #358 on: January 20, 2009, 10:26:18 PM »
peterpierre,

Sounds good. Is this a self-running "free energy" machine?

PL

Actually it is :) Time has ran down ... I should have all the results complete by beginning next week :) Thursday is a big day :)

PaulLowrance

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #359 on: January 20, 2009, 10:48:44 PM »
You're a braver man that I for announcing any such schedule. You've *never* been threatened??

Anyways, be safe, be smart, and please make sure you succeed.

PL