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Offline peterpierre

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #360 on: January 21, 2009, 12:30:38 AM »
You got it ... I never was threatened nor was I ever offered anything extraordinary :) I think I will survive those remaining days just fine :) Everything is going to be ok - my main thanks go to the ones who did not believe me :) It does not matter it is time to rock the cradle :D We're on it and I'll go medieval on it's ass :P I don't care about the money - I do not care about recognition - we're all gonna die sooner or later but now is the time to make some serious changes :)

Offline PaulLowrance

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #361 on: January 21, 2009, 12:32:48 AM »
I should have all the results complete by beginning next week :) Thursday is a big day :)

We all look forward to see what happens before the end of this month.

PL

Offline broli

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #362 on: January 21, 2009, 01:01:39 AM »
Actually it is :) Time has ran down ... I should have all the results complete by beginning next week :) Thursday is a big day :)

We'll I'm excited. And I have much respect for your humbleness. Without reveling too much yet, is it electric or mechanical?

Offline peterpierre

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #363 on: January 21, 2009, 01:04:02 AM »
We'll I'm excited. And I have much respect for your humbleness. Without reveling too much yet, is it electric or mechanical?

It is electrical ... I might at the same time have delivered the proof that we have been betrayed by our electrical providers for many many years in the past but I'll leave that up to you guys to decide :)



Offline broli

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #364 on: January 26, 2009, 01:18:05 PM »
So then here we are (at least where I live  ;D). Enlighten us!

Offline PaulLowrance

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #365 on: January 26, 2009, 04:24:30 PM »
My 2 cents, peterpierre, is to just keep it real, be blunt, and do what you believe is the right thing.  :)

PL

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #366 on: January 30, 2009, 12:27:14 AM »
It is electrical ... I might at the same time have delivered the proof that we have been betrayed by our electrical providers for many many years in the past but I'll leave that up to you guys to decide :)

Please tell me you have discovered that our current theory of electrical generating systems is wrong and it is a continually fed system not a closed system, and please tell me you have discovered some ionisation around your system.

I have been waiting a long time for others to discover this, by the way if any wants to start working on and playing with over unity energy the Joe cell works quite well.

Its like any hydrogen on demand system but is negatively charged, this excites the water molecules and drains electrons creating ions/plasma/HHO held stable in the water.

So far I have only doubled my fuel mileage but it is over unity.

Cheers all.
Scott.

Offline jadaro2600

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #367 on: January 31, 2009, 07:25:39 AM »
If I owned such a device, why would I confess to it here, of all places?

There are those that convince and those that persuade.  Who has more power?

Offline powercat

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #368 on: January 31, 2009, 01:16:48 PM »
@jadaro2600

why wouldn't you free the world of energy bills,if you could.
KEEP FREE ENERGY   FREEEEEEEE ;D

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Offline PaulLowrance

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #369 on: January 31, 2009, 04:25:45 PM »
I agree with both jadaro2600 and powercat. Give the world "free energy," but don't fall for the common trap and just post it. Be smart. Be SAFE!!! Anyone who tries to post a confirmed "smoking gun" designs here may never see tomorrow. Here's what I would do if I had a confirmed self-running "free energy" machine -->

http://greenselfreliantenergy.com/forum/index.php?topic=120.0

PL

Offline jibbguy

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #370 on: January 31, 2009, 05:55:54 PM »
For those who are worried about releasing their information because of suppression, understand that here and the other Open Source sites ARE the best places to do so. The below is of course not aimed at anyone here in particular: It is to convince inventors that the only chance they have of succeeding in getting their F-E device to market is to Open Source it.

Even if you are not a "believer" in the suppressions, could it hurt to take precautions?... Considering that no inventors have successfully gotten their F-E devices to market yet (even T. Henry Moray couldn't, and he had a long track record of many conventional inventions)... Are you confident that you are so much smarter and "better" that you won't fail where all the rest have?

> Every threat, buy-off, or especially murder leaves a trail. And "loose ends". The more people involved, the more loose ends. The more loose ends, the easier it is to expose the crimes. Exposure is more dangerous to them than seeing F-E devices on the market: They may then lose profits, but if exposed as criminals they could personally go to jail or face other serious repercussions (..like having their corporations boycotted and investigated until their stock loses all value and they go bankrupt). When hundreds of people all over the world become involved, it is way too dangerous for them to try any "hyjinks".
 
> Open Source is the method to defeat the military industrial complex from having the device "secretized" under obscure rules for "national security". According to Thomas Valone PhD, this has happened to over 3,000 patents submitted to the U.S. Patent Office (he is both a free energy advocate and a long-time Patent Office employee). The way to keep it from happening is to share the information on the device internationally and widely before they have a chance to get a gag order from the courts. According to Stan Meyer, this is the only thing that kept his hydroxy-related patents from being "secretized". 

> If you try to announce and go public alone without the help of the Open Source community, you will get defeated easily.. They use derision and denial to just ignore it.  But with 100 or more successful replications around the world to point to, it becomes nearly impossible to deny or deride... And too "dangerous" to suppress.

> If you allow Open Source engineers to replicate it, not only could they improve on it (free R&D), but their findings act as independent verifications. Every replicated device can be shown to local news outlets (less controlled than national news and more likely to feature it). If there are dozens of separate local news stories on these devices... It can not longer be ignored "safely". The millions of people who see or read these news reports will start writing letters to their government asking about it.

> You must stay away from investors who come to you with money for specific returns. This is one of their best tricks: Giving money with promises of returns by a certain date... So that when the device meets the impossible barriers that they throw at you when it is attempted to be marketed, then the shill investor gets to sue you or claim criminal fraud.. And you are suddenly thrown in jail, or the lawyers take everything. It is their last try when the threats, secretization, and/or buy-out methods fail. And it worked against Daniel Dingel and Paul Pantone. You can't give them any reasons to come at you legally.

> Don't let fear or legal threats of "Patent Infringement" stop you... No corporation in its right mind would allow a public legal trial where they had to admit that they were just sitting on an important invention that could have saved us from pollution and oil dependence !! They would be toast in no time if they did, and no jury would convict you. For F-E devices, patents are more of hindrance and a danger than a help.

> And despite Open Sourcing it, you are still the Inventor of Record... You will still get very rich ;) Whats more, your name will go down in History and you will be beloved my millions, if not billions of people (.. it is very probable that you will be getting laid A LOT, lol). 
« Last Edit: January 31, 2009, 08:50:30 PM by jibbguy »

Offline sushimoto

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #371 on: January 31, 2009, 06:16:13 PM »
Actually it is :) Time has ran down ... I should have all the results complete by beginning next week :) Thursday is a big day :)

I'm soo curious. :))

Are you still there?




Offline PaulLowrance

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #372 on: January 31, 2009, 07:00:23 PM »
The method I've outlined is the open-source method and uses a different medium to initiate the open-source designs other than "free energy" forums. If you pop on this or other "free energy" forums and post the first legit confirmed (at least by yourself) self-running machine, then there's a realistic chance it and you will never see the light of day. Why take the chance of first submitting your stuff at these forums, including my forum, when these forums are the best places to be monitored!!!

At my forum I've detailed a guaranteed method. In just one sentence, it's to make hundreds of copies of DVD's containing a demo of your machine with all the details. A 100 pack DVD is $14. It would take you practically no time to hand them out to college students. I would buy about a 1000 DVD's. Tell each person that you're going to demo the machine live at a certain time and location. Just prior to the demo, you could hit the forums if you want, but don't mention the live demo, lol. There's nothing like a live demo.

Anyhow, I predicted that if a legit confirmed self-running machine were to be posted here, that it would be ignored, and probably even immediately deleted. People are followers. If 99% of these people ignore something, then legit people will ignore it. That's how you control something, mass majority. This and all other forums would be the last place I would post a confirmed "smoking gun."

When I first entered the "free energy" community, I always thought it was odd how the message was "Just build it!"  when I knew it was a fake design. And the second message is, "Post it here! Open-source."  Open-source *is* the way, but be smart and post it last because this and other "free energy" forums would be the places to monitor for a "smoking gun!!!"

PL

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #373 on: January 31, 2009, 07:09:30 PM »
Forgot to add that there's nothing comparable to a live in-person demo. People are accustom to reading body language, which is why there's nothing more convincing then showing them a live demo, and then looking at them straight eye to eye and telling them this is legit, a "free energy" machine, no tricks, no lies, no scam, you're not selling anything to them, that you first want to make sure that this technology gets out to the world, and then and only then when it's proven will you sell a version for people who just want to buy it.

They can monitor these forums, but they can't monitor every park and location in the world. That's how we beat them!!! For once lets do it right!

PL

Offline jibbguy

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Re: OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now
« Reply #374 on: January 31, 2009, 08:26:44 PM »
Paul your suggestion that a working F-E device would be ignored by the Open Source people is hard to understand. For instance, take Thane Heins' thread, or Gotoluc's water spark threads. They were certainly not ignored!

And to suggest that something would be deleted here because it was "too good" is a little over the top: I'm willing to bet that you have nothing to back that up with. You are suggesting that a site dedicated to free energy advancement is actually part of the suppression. That supposes that the intent is to channel people here instead of somewhere else, where they really could learn something. But there are lots of other places to go (..where we can hear the wildest possible stories), and no one is stopping us from accessing them. 

Most people in the free energy arena have a differing opinion. Many think the suppression thingie is over-blown and highly-exaggerated anyway: You are taking the other direction ;)

I agree that creating CD's to hand-out is a worthwhile task. However getting the info into the right hands is tough. Truckers would be an excellent way to get it spread around quickly (passing them out at truck stops), and they would benefit very much from F-E technology so there is a built-in interest. But there must be internet presence to back-up the CD's... And a place for the potential replicating home engineers to share knowledge. These Open Source sites are far from perfect ;) But they are what we have, and could be adequate for the job.

Students on the other hand are more problematical for getting the word out. For one thing, imo it is unwise for many students to push F-E too hard: They could get flunked. For this reason i do not like to suggest that students pressure their instructors to study F-E, as once they get the sheepskin they are free to do as they like... But beforehand they are completely at the mercy of academia. They can feel-out their profs to see their attitudes, but if it seems they are closed-minded and resentful to having their core-beliefs challenged (as many are), the student should not attempt to push it... Get the degree first! Then go off the reservation, lol.

Certainly one-on-one is often best for convincing a person. But for reaching millions to let them know the technology exists in the first place, nothing beats the internet ;) It lends itself to more credibility, as anyone can get on here and debunk (as they often do lol). And we can see the opinions of hundreds if not thousands of peeps... And not have to rely on the word of just one person. 
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