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innovation_station

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water vortex generator
« on: March 27, 2007, 05:35:55 PM »
an idea i came up with last night

it is a water vortex generator where you have a big tube and it is filled with water in the center you have magnets in cased in a floting chamber in the shape of a cone and you suck water from the bottom and return back in the top causing the water to whirl pool around making the magnets spinn and around the outside of the tube you have collection coils to collect the current a drawing comming soon

as i said i have many ideas but no money to build them so i will give my ideas away for every one to build

it will take little engery to keep spinning

back to the drawing board yo


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Re: water vortex generator
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2007, 05:26:30 AM »
The power required to pump the water back to the top will be greater than the energy that could be obtained from the waters motion.

innovation_station

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Re: water vortex generator
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2007, 05:47:07 AM »
agin like my turbine it only takes a little water to keep it spinning a lot at the start but a little after the fact


now if i used many strong magnets and  it flots in the water and if i have no steel in my colector coils then will it still require more energy to operate than produce

i dont think so

the steel causes drag from the mags so get rid of the steel it will not be needed any way

for the colector use many and i do mean many peices of fine copper wire in a cone shape like coil 

and if put as close as posible to the rotating mags in the water in the tube

i will make a drawing soon as i have time


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Re: water vortex generator
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2007, 03:29:50 PM »
If you use many strong magnets what is to stop them from all sticking together and sinking to the bottom?

innovation_station

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Re: water vortex generator
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2007, 03:54:41 PM »
ok here it goes

and as i said i have not built this yet but i will

the mags will layed out in a corkscrew fashon and they will be drilled in my cone mags should be around 1" in length and .5 " sticking out the mags work as the fins on a turbine the water grabs onto the mags causing the cone to spin the cone must be air filled so it flots in the water how to achive this is still in thought

this is simple as all of my inventions

or the cone could be made of styorfoam the mags epoxy to the foam the cone should be the same shape as the vortex and sits in side the vortex

we do not need a large volume of water to make this work

in fact the less the better and the faster we pump the water the better the output

also the more  and the smaller the mage the better the result

if for some reason this does not make sence

you are thinking way to hard

simple as it should be

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Re: water vortex generator
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2007, 04:01:44 PM »
That is a great description, thankyou.  I can envisage your design quite clearly now.

The only thing I'm not clear on now is where the power will come from to pump the water.

innovation_station

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Re: water vortex generator
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2007, 04:31:24 PM »
it will all depend on the pump i would recomend a 12v pump mabe a winshild squitor from a car as it will consume only a little power and has quite a nice squirt to it and you could use a circuit that is in this area half baked  called free engery via electronic means

just another thought the battery would last a long time

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innovation_station

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Re: water vortex generator
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2007, 09:14:15 PM »
hers the drawing verry simple drawing but you will get the idea i will post better drawings when i find the time  this is only for explanation peropuses just did this quick so i did not leave this hanging


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innovation_station

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Re: water vortex generator
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2007, 06:21:14 PM »
looking for thoughts on this as why it will not be ou



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Low-Q

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Re: water vortex generator
« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2007, 11:15:48 PM »
I do not believe this will ever work. I understand however the idea, but I think a regular waterfall based power plant is the best way to do the energy transformation, and let the sun make sure the water is "pumped" back to the lakes in the mountains.

In other words: The device is already invented, and used as a main source of energy here in Norway.

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innovation_station

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Re: water vortex generator
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2007, 12:06:24 AM »
this that i have posted is my design and has not been copied from any where

and mabe somthing like it does exsist but i can assure it will not be the same as i said this is my idea and my collection coils will be much diffrent than anyone elses

but dont take my word for wait and see!


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ps thanks for your input


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Re: water vortex generator
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2007, 05:40:45 AM »
Do you think the diamagnetism of water would effect the opperation of your device? I'm open to the idea that hydrodynamic forces might be better utilized by some other form of power generation than current technology. Lifting water is often used to store power - a very cheap and very inefficient battery. Pumping waste water into a large container that requires little maintence allows storing not only the water, but also the energy required for purification.

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Re: water vortex generator
« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2007, 07:21:02 AM »
this that i have posted is my design and has not been copied from any where

and mabe somthing like it does exsist but i can assure it will not be the same as i said this is my idea and my collection coils will be much diffrent than anyone elses

but dont take my word for wait and see!


innovation station

ps thanks for your input



Collection coils without a iron core doesn't mean that there will not be sticky points when the coils are loaded. A loaded or short circuit air coil will make resistance to the movement of the magnet which passes it - a sticky point which will slow down the magnet movement. The vortex itself are spinning in a tube that make heavy surface resistance which will slow down the vortex. With these losses, you will never have enough power to pump the water back to the top.

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Re: water vortex generator
« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2007, 08:34:49 AM »
as i said this is a new idea to me so it is verry much work in progress as all of my work
but to give better operation let me apply a frictionless bearing to this set up to allow for faster spin of the turbine thus more output


basicaly add a cylender mag to the point of the cone and a ringmag to the drain

i will add thease additions to the drawing soon so you all can understand

verry similar to the frictionless homopolar generator i designed



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Re: water vortex generator
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2007, 08:41:16 AM »
the more i think about this the more i come up with  this generator can be  applyed to air  forced wind and totaly without water similar to my globe generator with 2 sets of frictionless bearings

agin more on this as i have time

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