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innovation_station

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frictionless homopolar generator
« on: March 27, 2007, 02:09:09 AM »
yet another simple design i came up with drawing and picture and op princible soon
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innovation_station

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Re: frictionless homopolar generator
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2007, 08:16:49 PM »
nothing hard about this device



i t consists of 2 magnets

a plastic turbine

an air pump 12 v

a copper disc

2 brushes

and a base

i am goint to draw a picture right now and i will post when im finished



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innovation_station

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Re: frictionless homopolar generator
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2007, 08:30:54 PM »
here you go i will post 1 more drawing without the words

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innovation_station

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Re: frictionless homopolar generator
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2007, 08:51:38 PM »
the second drawing with the turbine and no words and the rest of the casing


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trying to post aginn
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innovation_station

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Re: frictionless homopolar generator
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2007, 08:54:26 PM »
i will be building this soon as there is not much to this and it wont cost a fourtune and when i do i will post the picture



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Low-Q

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Re: frictionless homopolar generator
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2007, 09:01:19 PM »
Is this generator some kind of Edison generator, or what the name is?
I assume the copper disc is fixed, and you have rotating magnets over and under it, and a turbine to run spin the magnets?
Between the center and the edge of the copper disc you will get power. Lots of current, and very low voltage.

Am I right?

Br.

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innovation_station

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Re: frictionless homopolar generator
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2007, 01:45:08 AM »
the way i see what your are saying is not at all related

sound as tho your making more fun at my work


it is all self explanitory



i should not have to say anymore than my drawing


look agin if you really dont understand

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Low-Q

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Re: frictionless homopolar generator
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2007, 10:17:34 AM »
Quote from: innovation_station on April 01, 2007, 01:45:08 AM
the way i see what your are saying is not at all related

sound as tho your making more fun at my work


it is all self explanitory



i should not have to say anymore than my drawing


look agin if you really dont understand

is
I'm not making fun of you, and I honestly cannot see how you can say that from my previous post!!!!!
Well, rotating magnets, and a disc of copper! So I just putted 2 and 2 together.
This is well known technology invented by Mr Edison a "few" years ago, except the frictionless bearing. Even the brushes are placed in the same places on the disc. It is sad if you think I'm making fun of you, but I don't!

How you plan to make the magnet start spinning, air pressure, water, another motor etc, does not matter. You have to add energy in one or another way to make it spin, and maintain the spinning anyway. I see clearly how your generator are meant to work - however, it will not run forever and supply limitless of energy just because of a frictionless bearing. End of story.

Br.

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innovation_station

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Re: frictionless homopolar generator
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2007, 02:16:16 PM »
i am not saying that it will but frictinoless will improve the op of this unit too this can be built many ways so sorry for my last i just assumed you were making fun or you realy did not understand what im saying


it also seams you are challanging my turbine here it takes almost nothing to turn the ring mag because of it weightlesness so to turn the turbine i will use compressed air mabe use the filsinger squeeze tech pressureizer or a 12v air compresser


the generator will not be limitless it should produce around at the most 3 v but at high current  if i put 2 mags togather ooposing  copper between and spin fast as i can for input i will get more voltage but same current

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Paul-R

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Re: frictionless homopolar generator
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2007, 03:48:45 PM »
Quote from: Low-Q on March 31, 2007, 09:01:19 PM
Is this generator some kind of Edison generator, or what the name is?.........
...... Am I right?

Br.

Vidar
Michael Faraday, I reckon. In 1832, earlier than Edison.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homopolar_generator
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innovation_station

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Re: frictionless homopolar generator
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2007, 04:39:53 PM »
yes it is a faraday disc style generator based on the work of faraday with my twist

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Re: frictionless homopolar generator
« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2007, 06:13:10 PM »
Quote from: innovation_station on April 01, 2007, 02:16:16 PM
i am not saying that it will but frictinoless will improve the op of this unit too this can be built many ways so sorry for my last i just assumed you were making fun or you realy did not understand what im saying


it also seams you are challanging my turbine here it takes almost nothing to turn the ring mag because of it weightlesness so to turn the turbine i will use compressed air mabe use the filsinger squeeze tech pressureizer or a 12v air compresser


the generator will not be limitless it should produce around at the most 3 v but at high current  if i put 2 mags togather ooposing  copper between and spin fast as i can for input i will get more voltage but same current

is
OK I see. Have you consider that there will be a sort of electronic friction between the spinning magnet and the copper disc when you load it or short-circuit it?

Btw: Paul-R/William -> Thanks for clearing up Edison/Faraday :D. I haven't had my brain with me the last few months. Of course  - Faraday! I should have remembered that :-[

Br.

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innovation_station

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Re: frictionless homopolar generator
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2007, 08:10:41 PM »
the copper disc is connected to the magnet they will both spinn at once as 1 and the weight of the spinning combo will overcome any friction created from drawing a load

so it should not slow down when you take current from it

or if it does slow down it should be almost un noticeable defentaly not come to a stop


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Re: frictionless homopolar generator
« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2007, 08:30:54 PM »
Your idea is a bit more complex than mine, but we both have good ideas that I hope we can get our ideas working.
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innovation_station

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Re: frictionless homopolar generator
« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2007, 08:39:35 PM »
well why not combine our ideas togather and get somthing real good from it 


just a thought

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