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Author Topic: Quadratic magnetic gate  (Read 9068 times)

Jinis

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Quadratic magnetic gate
« on: March 23, 2007, 01:26:55 PM »
Hi all and hallo an alle,

here we go, who likes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Prx-0BqlqYA

eavogels

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Re: Quadratic magnetic gate
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2007, 02:50:28 PM »
Hello Jinis.
Did you try to put 2 gates behind each other, with some distance between them?
Thanks,
Eric.

Low-Q

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Re: Quadratic magnetic gate
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2007, 07:30:33 PM »
Hi all and hallo an alle,

here we go, who likes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Prx-0BqlqYA
How do you arrange the magnetic poles in this gate? Do you have a simple drawing?

Br.

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Dansway

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Re: Quadratic magnetic gate
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2007, 08:08:22 PM »
Hi Jinis,

Nice gate.

Your gate looks almost exactly like a Howard Johnson gate which he build decades ago.

Regards,

Dan

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Re: Quadratic magnetic gate
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2007, 08:13:54 PM »
Here is page 24 from Howard Johnson's little booklet, "Discovering Magnetism".

Enjoy.

Dan


Low-Q

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Re: Quadratic magnetic gate
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2007, 08:21:35 PM »
"Some recent tests in a closed loop run have shown that the Magnetic Gate works as a common energy conservative system ( unfortunately, no Overunity effect in a closed loop run ). The Magnetic Gate in this case act as a simple magnetic spring preloaded which launch its probe along the path"

Br.

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Dansway

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Re: Quadratic magnetic gate
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2007, 09:09:47 PM »
Low-Q,

Thanks just it.  You don't put this in a closed loop path.

The dreaded "circle of death" is a well known thing in magnetic motor prototypes.

The answer, don't close the loop!

Dan


Low-Q

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Re: Quadratic magnetic gate
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2007, 08:59:57 AM »
So, what's the point with this magnetic gate then, if it can't run in a closed loop?

Br.

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Jinis

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Re: Quadratic magnetic gate
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2007, 03:29:36 PM »
Your gate looks almost exactly like a Howard Johnson gate which he build decades ago.

Hi Dan, you are right. I very appreciate the work of this man. He is the one, who did't believe the old physic dogmas and measured the form of magnetic field around the magnet. According to his pictures of magnetic field, it is possible to create magnetic motors.

Jinis

Nastrand2000

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Re: Quadratic magnetic gate
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2007, 05:42:39 PM »
so lets think outside the box.....how do you close the "loop" without closing the loop... ;)

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Re: Quadratic magnetic gate
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2007, 06:59:02 PM »
The clue I believe is how to balance between the start point on next gate and the finish point from previous gate. In a single magnetic gate, one doesn't worry about where to put the moving magnet, as one can easily put the magnet close enough to the gate in order to get a forward motion. If several gates are placed after each other, one have to consider the magnetic field created by the previous gate, and how this influence on the start point for the next gate. How close is it possible to arrange the gates after each other, and how should the path be arranged in a closed loop?

If one successfully can make the moving magnet to pass three or more gates in a row, and accelerate for each gate, I believe it's possible to close the loop. The bad thing is that this gate seems to repel the magnet in the opposite direction if the starting point is to far from the gate. So balancing the distance between the gates is very critical - if it ever will work.....

Br.

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