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Offline hartiberlin

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Re: The "Diode"
« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2006, 05:22:16 AM »
They said to me during my visit at Methernitha?s place, that in some rear caps are crystal stones located.
That makes it more possible, that the machine actually gets its power
from light radiactive mountain crystals which are energized by High Voltage pulses
and release  radiation which is captured and electrically output.

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Re: The "Diode"
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Re: The "Diode"
« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2006, 08:45:51 AM »
Hello Stefan,

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You are assuming a vacuum tube with air in it, and hence ions are being used. If the vacuum is being maintained then, gathering from what you say, you wouldn't see sputtering
I should better have said 'reduced pressure'. If you have vacuum, there can't be air in it - vice versa. If you have vacuum you don't have ions, then you don't have sputtering but also not the effects which are claimed to be attributed to them by some.

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Check out the following link. It's the first thing I found in a quick google search for "homemade vacuum tubes" so there's probably a lot more. I indicates not such a high vacuum and fancy equipment is needed for the electron approach.
Thanks for the links. Some interesting sites indeed. As I said; the broken tube I once had that sucked up air still was working (with just reduced pressure, but no highvacuum anymore), but did degade rather fast then. However, it was nice to look at with it's faint mysterious glow ;)

I suggested to make the construction airtight to have the pressure as another variable parameter - if one should decide to build it and meassure the whole thing out. I will certainly do this somewtime this year, but at the moment I just don't have the time for this. Since I have been advised by my boss to conduct some HV experiments for material sciense, I'm now building the necessary devices for providing it anyway.

We eventually should stop guessing but rather build some of the guessed constructions and nail them down, i.e. record the stepresponse and the impulsresponse of the voltage and current. No matter where the energy really comes from; all of the  parts have a special function based on it's behavior - and the behavior can be meassured. We have the advantage that we can partly look into them, due to the grids.
« Last Edit: January 06, 2006, 10:33:14 AM by IcyBlue »

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Re: The "Diode"
« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2006, 04:23:19 PM »
Attached is a clear photo of the choke.

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Re: The "Diode"
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Offline Bruce A. Perreault

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Re: The "Diode"
« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2006, 04:24:50 PM »
Attached is a clear photo of the diode.

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Re: The "Diode"
« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2006, 07:59:22 PM »
We eventually should stop guessing but rather build some of the guessed constructions and nail them down
I agree and plan to (and am anxious to). I just remembered that a friend of mine has a vacuum pump that I can borrow, so it just got easier. My current thinking is just as you say, test it at various pressures so that both ion and electron approaches can be tested. But due to local commitments I have to keep focused for the next week or so on a solar air heater that I'm building.
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Re: The "Diode"
« Reply #20 on: March 24, 2006, 05:30:23 PM »
This topic is great and you guys are obviously very smart but I have to chuckle a little at your lack of interest in winding your resonnant coil around a magnet. Duplication is sooooo much easier at this point.Leaching off the field of the magnet.

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Re: The "Diode"
« Reply #21 on: March 30, 2006, 07:17:54 PM »
This topic is great and you guys are obviously very smart but I have to chuckle a little at your lack of interest in winding your resonnant coil around a magnet.
At least I for my part am more than busy at the moment with non-borderland-science that I am paid for - and there are a half dozen exiting projects in the queue that I need to be worked out too. First things first. Since I'm not paid for FE, this can be done when I'm running idle.

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[...]coil around a magnet[...]
is nothing else but a magnetic sonic emitter in the first place. Search for 'magnetic transducers' and 'magnetostrictive transducers'. You will be surprised how they resemble the testatika horseshoe magnets or the ones from the coler device - not that I want to say the magnet things in these devices have this function.
But I'm tired to continue to speculate about this mystic 'coil on a magnet' OU-thing. Record the impuls- and stepresponse for voltage and current and the phase relation of them. If there is something, you'll see it in these measurements - if you don't see anything, then there is nothing and the myth needs to be burried. Although I had the intention to conduct these tests too, I had no time for this yet, and it seems that I won't have it in the near future.

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Re: The "Diode"
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Re: The "Diode"
« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2006, 10:29:24 PM »

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Re: The "Diode"
« Reply #24 on: April 30, 2006, 04:58:03 PM »
Hi Icy,
Good find! The only problem I have with it is that I've examined the videos extensively and can
find only two wires connecting to the diode at the top of the 3kW testatika. Any other wires must
be very well hidden.

Having said that, I still think you may be on to something here. In fact I'd carry it further and
apply it to some of the cans as well. They are all enclosed in a glass/clear plastic container.
Even though Farnsworth's patent says that the cathodes should preferably be unperforated,
that may not apply to the way they're used in the testatika. For example there are multiple
concentric perforated cylinders in some cases so the perforations may be neccessary for electron
propagation through multiple cylinders.

This also jibes with Marinov's description of what he saw in the small machine's two big cans -
a central wire spiral surrounded by one/two grid cylinders.

By the way, the patent does say you can get away with anodes that are made of just aluminium.
The caesium coated version is a preference.

Either way, thanks for pointing this out.
that is true !!!!!
-Steve

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Re: The "Diode"
« Reply #25 on: May 08, 2006, 08:49:19 PM »
Hi,
http://pixerve.de/37752/FE.html
this, unfortunately, is just an artistic drawing of the device which is based on a misinterpretation of some image reduction artefacts. This drawing is ought to show a direct heated vacuum diode, but even in this case it is wrong. It more likely shows a upside-down constructed vacuum triode. Nice drawing, but don't rely on this.

The 'filament' in the real image is just a blurred reflection of light on the copper wire.

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Re: The "Diode"
« Reply #26 on: May 09, 2006, 09:34:01 AM »
NO ,
an Triode is "nonsens" , cant be drive on "gate" .
2. if this is triode , it give not "kathode" !
because the heater is nothing connected  inly with "pickup" coil" for the heatervoltages.

this "zigzag that is shown in some diagramms is NOT the Grid od gate ! This is the Kathode of the tube.

possibly you will try to take some TV Diodes (stack-up) that can handle over 25.000 each .

http://ch.to/FE  (only in german language , unprofessioal pages)

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Re: The "Diode"
« Reply #27 on: May 09, 2006, 08:36:40 PM »
please look again on what I wrote. I did not say the device in the machine is a triode, I said the device in the drawing looks like a triode. This is a complete different business. The orderering of the parts in the drawing is (from outside to inside) filament (yellow), getter (red), plate (blue) - and this gives an upside-down constructed triode. Like it or not. However, the thing on the real machine has only two connections and no filament, hence it can not have a heated filament, nor could it be a triode.

BTW: you can drive a triode in various configurations, even with a grounded getter or by feeding your input to the kathode instead to the getter. This is hardly known anymore these days but was common knowledge among the RF enginers in the old days.

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Re: The "Diode"
« Reply #28 on: May 09, 2006, 09:37:23 PM »
Ok , yes ok . understand now (my english is not the best.
i am workink wit tube long befoer 1950
and now i habe olso about 500 pcs in stock , that i will not more sell.

Ok this testakia "self made diode" shown like triode m but this "gitter" is
fixed th the cathode , and is holding (i think so) only this
2 cathode tubings , that hold the heating filaments inside,

some more  to understand this Testatika please see:

http://pixerve.de/41903/pese.html  PICTURE (Scematics)

http://ch.to/FE  (most in german ...sorry)

pese

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Re: The "Diode"
« Reply #29 on: April 13, 2007, 07:23:15 PM »
There are two main pics in circulation; one of the 3KW machine, and the other of two smaller 100 watt ones with S. Marinov smiling nearby.

Of the two smaller machines (black one and red one), I would like to point out that the black one has a very clear picture of the "diode" atop the apparatus.

It has one large copper coil with horizontally placed connection leads, and a "grid" inside the coil that has TWO MORE connections leading DOWN from the assy. These seem to contact the rims of the disks with verticle brushes.

There is a "glowing" line across the center, which is obviously an artifact left from the camera flash. I believe that this camera flash is being misinterpreted as a heater filament in ALL pics of the machines.

In the "red" machine, the "diode" atop the assy is not round, it's SQUARED, and seems to consist only of coils of differing gauges, wrapped as to make a frequency doubler ... this would account for the unit's RF-frequency energy after only a few oscillations of frequency multiplication, without the need for a "diode".




 

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