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Author Topic: Battery Popping, a la Bearden...  (Read 5743 times)

Offline tao

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Battery Popping, a la Bearden...
« on: March 21, 2007, 04:36:39 PM »
An interpretation of the 'battery-popping' process described by Bearden here: http://www.cheniere.org/misc/battery%20poppers.htm

Note, the OU mechanism involved is using Lenz's Law to OUR advantage, that is the whole secret to 'battery popping.'


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Re: Battery Popping, a la Bearden...
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2007, 08:06:52 PM »
Hi-

 I tried doing this set up a while back. one battery, 2 caps, a load and switching circuit. simple looking setup but...

I had no luck at all with it. That fact is likely due to not having the all important switching timing correct. You can't do it so they say with regular switching methods. The timing speed required is something like 10 nano seconds.
 
 So anyone who is going to give it a go should get their switching set up sorted out first. Anyone out there that can help me with the switching circuits then I will give it another try out.

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Offline AhuraMazda

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Re: Battery Popping, a la Bearden...
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2007, 11:01:11 PM »
I tried doing this set up a while back. one battery, 2 caps, a load and switching circuit. simple looking setup but...

I had no luck at all with it.


pg,

Just as well. If you read the comment in the link above about Watson's achievement you will see my point. I don't think he came to a happy ending.

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Re: Battery Popping, a la Bearden...
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Re: Battery Popping, a la Bearden... My Experiments
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2007, 11:22:44 AM »
I tried building one of these battery popping devices about 20 years ago when I first heard about it on the "Roy of Hollywood" show on KPFK Los Angeles.  As mentioned elsewhere, the original Bedini motor/generator setup is not essential to the device, just a means of quickly switching the battery from a charge to discharge state.  Since MOSFETS were very expensive back then and the motor/generator system was electromechanical, I built my experiment with four six volt batteries salvaged from a PBX system, a relay and a small driver circuit.  The driver circuit used minimal power compared to the load resistor that the batteries were to be switched through.

The system alternated the batteries in a series parallel arrangement.  In cycle #1, battery A and battery B were connected in series through the load resistor to parallel connected batteries C and D.  In cycle 2, C and D were connected in series through the load, thus charging now parallel connected batteries A and B.

The old telephone batteries had a unique feature, they had a built in hydrometer consisting of green, white and red balls visible through the plastic case, so that I could monitor the state of charge via specific gravity, as well as by measuring the voltage under load.  Green ball at the top meant the battery was fully charged, white was OK and if the red ball started to drop, the battery was considered to be fully discharged.

The load resistor was sized so as to discharge the batteries at the 20 hour rate.  When I started the experiment I was amazed to find that the load voltage actually went up to around 7 volts, as if I had a charger connected, WOW this thing really works I thought, but after 5 hours, the voltage was back down to 6 volts, and even more important, the specific gravity was falling as if the batteries were being discharged normally.   At around the 20 hour mark, the red ball started to drop, indicating full discharge, however the load voltage was staying at 6 volts.

In the interest of science, I decided to risk trashing the batteries and allowed the experiment to continue until the load voltage dropped to 5.1 volts, which is the voltage at which a nominal 6 volt lead acid battery is considered to be discharged. It took 18 hours to reach that point.   The discharge curve looked more like the latter part of a NiMH battery than a PbA battery. So although I didn't have a "free energy" device, I was able to nearly double the ampere hour capacity of an ordinary lead acid battery.

This also explains the "sucking up of energy" reported at http://www.cheniere.org/misc/battery%20poppers.htm  It wasn't that the battery was "time reversed" or any such weird explanation, but that it had been really really deep cycled.  One had to put the energy back in that was taken out by the unusual circuit.

That doesn't mean that the device is entirely useless.  Doubling the capacity of a lead acid battery would make it competitive with NiCd or NiMH batteries for energy density at half the cost or better.

 

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