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h20power

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Re: New vids on Stan Meyer!
« Reply #30 on: April 04, 2007, 07:29:29 PM »
Nice going Ironhead, keep the movement alive.

I posted this awhile back: The effects of Vacuum on electrolysis
Here is the math of the process: at 1 ATM and 298K the energy requirments are;
W = PΔV = (101.30 x 10^3 Pa)(1.5 moles)(22.4 x 10^-3 m^3/mol)(298K/273K) = 3.715 KJ  (this is part A to B on the graph area under the curve)

At .2 ATM and 298k the energy requirments are;
W = PΔV = (20.260 x 10^3 Pa)(1.5 moles)(22.4 x 10^-3 m^3/mol)(298K/273K) = 0.7431 KJ ( this is B to C on the graph area under the curve)

At .1 ATM and 298k the energy requirments are;
W = PΔV = (10.130 x 10^3 Pa)(1.5 moles)(22.4 x 10^-3 m^3/mol)(298K/273K) = 0.3715 KJ (end of graph)
 
Notice the change in energy needed to break water down . You are not going to find this in any books for I figured it out. This applies to Faradays electrolysis, not too sure of it's affects on Meyer's work.

I am nolonger going to engage Tripled in idle conversation, for it is fuitless and to the point a foolish waste of time :o. He has nothing too teach, just full of misinformation intended to divide and confuse people just starting out in the movement >:(.

P.S. good work Ironhead.
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Tripled

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Re: New vids on Stan Meyer!
« Reply #31 on: April 04, 2007, 07:39:25 PM »
Quote from: h20power on April 04, 2007, 07:29:29 PM
Nice going Ironhead, keep the movement alive.

I posted this awhile back:
Here is the math of the process: at 1 ATM and 298K the energy requirments are;
W = PΔV = (101.30 x 10^3 Pa)(1.5 moles)(22.4 x 10^-3 m^3/mol)(298K/273K) = 3.715 KJ  (this is part A to B on the graph area under the curve)

At .2 ATM and 298k the energy requirments are;
W = PΔV = (20.260 x 10^3 Pa)(1.5 moles)(22.4 x 10^-3 m^3/mol)(298K/273K) = 0.7431 KJ ( this is B to C on the graph area under the curve)

At .1 ATM and 298k the energy requirments are;
W = PΔV = (10.130 x 10^3 Pa)(1.5 moles)(22.4 x 10^-3 m^3/mol)(298K/273K) = 0.3715 KJ (end of graph)
 
Notice the change in energy needed to break water down . You are not going to find this in any books for I figured it out. This applies to Faradays electrolysis, not too sure of it's affects on Meyer's work.

I am nolonger going to engage Tripled in idle conversation, for it is fuitless and to the point a foolish waste of time :o. He has nothing too teach, just full of misinformation intended to divide and confuse people just starting out in the movement >:(.

P.S. good work Ironhead.

You have a sad tendency of trying to get people to do what you want them to do, don't you?

I seem to remember some other people in this lifetime that had similar dreams of grandure, let me see.... yes one comes to mind:

Charles

Now go get your diaper changed and leave some of these "honest inquiring minds" alone.

Tripled
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Re: New vids on Stan Meyer!
« Reply #32 on: April 04, 2007, 07:42:04 PM »
Yes ,the box to the right is a 36 volt AGM battery , current is about 10 amps.
Plates are like this  + nnnnn  - nnnnn +   this works very well and is producing more gas than anything I have seen in this type of direct cell . Meaning a cell that is not pulsed or built like a cap. No electronics on this one. I have found that with this little motor cap design that the gas is stronger  , more bang.

Meyers has done great work but I am producing more HHO in a small format with another design on the High Voltage HHO page. More I say than I have seen in his videos.

Although I have no Idea what he was producing with his modified spark plug laser cell.

I am now thinking about this whole laser idea to increase production.

I did the alternator deal years ago, works very well with good fuel outcome.

My advantage is no kids no wifey

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Re: New vids on Stan Meyer!
« Reply #33 on: April 04, 2007, 07:54:16 PM »
Quote from: IronHead on April 04, 2007, 07:42:04 PM
Yes ,the box to the right is a 36 volt AGM battery , current is about 10 amps.
Plates are like this  + nnnnn  - nnnnn +   this works very well and is producing more gas than anything I have seen in this type of direct cell . Meaning a cell that is not pulsed or built like a cap. No electronics on this one.I have found the with this little motor cap design that the gas is stronger  , more bang.

Meyers has done great work but I am producing more HHO in a small format with another design on the High Voltage HHO page. More I say than I have seen in his videos.

Although I have no Idea what he was producing with his modified spark plug laser cell.

I am now thinking about this whole laser idea to increase production.

I did the alternator deal years ago, works very well will good fuel outcome.

My advantage is no kids no wifey

Just Build It
IronHead


I think if you go through his papers you'll see it's all in the "Taper" design of the injector, hence the "explosive outcome" inside the cylinder when released.

Do you think a "True" red LED would have the same effect on increasing the "infared energy" within the "atom" "molecule"? ;-)

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Re: New vids on Stan Meyer!
« Reply #34 on: April 04, 2007, 08:10:55 PM »
No but I build till I get it right. I will try anything I can get my hands on including many different light sources at least till I know the correct spectrum and build a laser accordingly .

Here is a short production video  sorry the cam is dieing . I light this and it is a very large strong bang , will ring your ears for awhile.

The cell is alittle hot right now about 120*F



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h20power

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Re: New vids on Stan Meyer!
« Reply #35 on: April 04, 2007, 08:28:10 PM »
Nice going Ironhead, looks very impressive. Did you use any electrolites? Once my unit is built I hope it has that kind of gas production.
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Re: New vids on Stan Meyer!
« Reply #36 on: April 04, 2007, 08:34:17 PM »
Yes ,there is about 5mg of KOH in this cell , had to do it as I used distilled water.
Then give it a sec to charge at 12 VDC the first time out then switch it over to 36VDC. Also these are Nitronic 50 Stainless steel plates in there.There is no trash in that water the IR light and the iris of the cam make it look that way.

This is just a test cell wait till you see the big boys that I am doing a video on.




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Re: New vids on Stan Meyer!
« Reply #37 on: April 04, 2007, 08:36:43 PM »
Nice job, Ironhead.
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Re: New vids on Stan Meyer!
« Reply #38 on: April 04, 2007, 08:37:16 PM »
Quote from: IronHead on April 04, 2007, 08:10:55 PM
No but I build till I get it right. I will try anything I can get my hands on including many different light sources at least till I know the correct spectrum and build a laser accordingly .


Actually i was being a tad facetious with the question's in a way.

I was posting the questions for you, not at you.

The spectrum you want is the infared spectrum, heat is what were after in the cylinder. This is why we need a much more efficient cooling system in a car when runing hydrogen and oxygen, more infared energy produced.

Increase the infared energy in a hydrogen and oxygen molecule, then let them join, would increase the infared energy output of said joining.

This is why you do not require a spark plug in an ICE when using an injector such as Meyer'.

This is also why he has "inert" gases mixed in before the cylinder so the more "energized " hydrogen and oxygen molecules do not join while on route from the cell to the cylinder.

Also, have a look at his "Light Guide Lens" Patent US-4275950

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/

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Re: New vids on Stan Meyer!
« Reply #39 on: April 04, 2007, 08:45:45 PM »
Ok, I jacked this thread long enough.

Thanks for the support and infos everyone.

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Re: New vids on Stan Meyer!
« Reply #40 on: April 04, 2007, 10:46:03 PM »
Wait I have a question.
What wavelength would be proper for this concept.
http://www.roithner-laser.com/LP-laserdiodesIR.htm
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Re: New vids on Stan Meyer!
« Reply #41 on: April 05, 2007, 12:31:59 AM »
Quote from: IronHead on April 04, 2007, 10:46:03 PM
Wait I have a question.
What wavelength would be proper for this concept.
http://www.roithner-laser.com/LP-laserdiodesIR.htm

just a note, you are quite aware this is very dangerous if not done and understood properly... yes?

and i'm not being patronising here.

i say this because the "gas" produced is very very volatile, and must be done in  very strict and proper manor. this is not an ordinary build at home device using electrolysis.

those diodes WILL pack an awfull amount of energy into any gas produced using Stanley Meyers design.

in other words, this is not about simply throwing a home build water fracturing device into one's car and pumping the resulting gas into the intact. there's a reason Mr Meyer' design does not require any ignition spark for the gas he produced with his design.

now is time i think you might want too re-read his information and to get a much greater understanding for his invention.

THIS SHIT WILL BLOW UP ON YOU IF YOUR NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.

Just some friendly words of advice.

Cheers

Tripled
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Re: New vids on Stan Meyer!
« Reply #42 on: April 05, 2007, 11:10:47 AM »
Ironhead, you have truly out done Magdrive with this one. Now box it up and give power to the people 8)
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Re: New vids on Stan Meyer!
« Reply #43 on: April 06, 2007, 03:37:42 AM »
Building IR laser and apparatus in the hot zone now.

This cell is built with the utmost precautions and  in a very small
apparatus, about the size of a D cell battery. This is an open cell
design in case of massive production the cell will have no chance
to pressurize. The Hot zone is a lab area with the proper ventalation
shielding and control to do such a build.

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Re: New vids on Stan Meyer!
« Reply #44 on: April 06, 2007, 06:34:01 PM »
Conceptual High Voltage HHO injector design based on IR laser injection and negative electron extraction.

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