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supersam

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #195 on: February 22, 2008, 01:54:25 AM »
@richard

watchout!  here come the "MIB"!  i can show you a way to save you and your investors alot of money.  you might want to just do a complete walkaround video, at one time no editing.  and show the box of tricks doing what you say it will do.  it seems that this will be the best marketing ever.

lol
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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #196 on: February 22, 2008, 05:38:58 AM »
Will that run an electric golf cart? That would be a great test of the device.

Nice work.

Brad

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #197 on: February 22, 2008, 02:45:00 PM »
Quote:
It seems you didn?t understand the impact and message of the
video at:
www.overunity.com/magnacoaster unquote

Thanks for adding your input Stefan, much appreciated. I do understand the impact of the message and the video, and perhaps I didnt express my observations clearly enough. High points:
1) the video shows two amateurs in their garage with a dead battery.
2) they spin a little bedini type wheel to get the process started.
3) then they hook up the dead battery and run all the tools lights etc. Literally within seconds of starting the wheel.
Thats basically the high points. So, what do we have? We have a video from nowhere (again) that shows something that there is no way anyone can verify. It is so easy to fake this kind of video, that it proves nothing. In fact, that is the only one. And their youtube account is closed (like xpensif's).
Lets say it works. How? If its bedinis, then they have found something that nobody else has so far. If that little wheel is powering that inverter that fast, then they have something magical, not scientific. The only way you can power that inverter is to run 12 volts through the cables that are supposedly charging the battery, which is directly hooked to the inverter. Even if you use radiant, or back emf, or step charging, or neutrino capture, or sulfation in the battery at the time of charge run cycle.
That little wheel will never do it in that time frame. Period. They would be using mofsets or transistors if they needed that kind of power from that little wheel, which is only a timer I might add. It doesnt matter anyway. Its a front piece. They built a bedini, couldnt get it to work, and then dreamed this up so they could feel special. Nothing new. And nothing new presented either. Good mind food though.
No need to even reply to this. Lets just wait for two or three weeks, (or more like days) and see what happens. Time shakes the nuts hard. We all want the same thing, to bring free energy as its called now to the public. Great job Stefan and thanks!

















 


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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #198 on: February 22, 2008, 03:29:15 PM »
1) the video shows two amateurs in their garage with a dead battery.
2) they spin a little bedini type wheel to get the process started.
3) then they hook up the dead battery and run all the tools lights etc. Literally within seconds of starting the wheel.

Finally there's someone else here that can see what I have been seeing for the whole time.

1) Yes, they are two real amateurs with no engineering knowledge (I can tell by their reports)
2) The battery cannot take a load as fast as the video show, to be able run these machines.
3) The power is clearly coming from the cables, but it's not generated by their "OU device"
4) There is a hidden power source delivering the power through the battery charge cables.

The whole idea presented by "Magnacoaster" smell bad. Why make up a business plan before having
developed the neccesary but impossible "overunity device". Their whole bussiness idea is based on this device.
Their plan to be found here--> http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2062.msg42466.html#msg42466
Its just like saying "Hey, let's start a company that delivers real dinosaur house pets from the past."
"And afterwards when the company is up running, they right out of the blue invent a timemachine on demand...."
Hey, C'mon, of course the Magnacoaster guys is faking it. It's just so obvious.
« Last Edit: March 26, 2008, 02:37:47 PM by Ergo »

Ben Waballs

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #199 on: February 22, 2008, 05:35:41 PM »
I hadnt seen the pdf until you brought it up just now. Thank you. If you look not too carefully at their 'plan' its hilarious. Words are mis-spelled, and almost all of it is dedicated to getting enormous amounts of money. All employees will get free medical and free lunches. Lots of other funny stuff I wont bother with here.
Amazing how two cheesy barefoot kids in their garage can get people started. They will be hounded and ridiculed and when it gets a little hard, (like now) they will disappear. Just like xpensif.
They should have just built the bedini like he said to do it, and got a real job.  Their mistake is that they think people that believe in free energy are suckers. I can assure you, that they are some of the most educated people there are. They will find out.
NEXT!:)








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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #200 on: February 22, 2008, 05:43:06 PM »
I hadnt seen the pdf until you brought it up just now. Thank you. If you look not too carefully at their 'plan' its hilarious. Words are mis-spelled, and almost all of it is dedicated to getting enormous amounts of money. All employees will get free medical and free lunches. Lots of other funny stuff I wont bother with here.
Amazing how two cheesy barefoot kids in their garage can get people started. They will be hounded and ridiculed and when it gets a little hard, (like now) they will disappear. Just like xpensif.
They should have just built the bedini like he said to do it, and got a real job.  Their mistake is that they think people that believe in free energy are suckers. I can assure you, that they are some of the most educated people there are. They will find out.
NEXT!:)









Yeah, you're mentioning the disappearance of @xpenzif. However, you're forgetting @alsetalokin. How 'bout that "Mike" from the Bedini thread? How 'bout Torbay or that Danny from Ohio? Or that one from Toronto with the gravity wheel. Abducted by aliens? Hardly. MiB's? Well, let's get serious. CoE can be violated, Johannes Taisnierius' device (SMOT, that is) proves it beyond doubt. Oviously, however, we can barely expect its more practical application to come about due to the efforts of amateurs and garage enthusiasts.

powercat

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #201 on: February 22, 2008, 08:17:37 PM »
copycat of the Perendev Motors scam ???

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #202 on: February 22, 2008, 09:32:38 PM »
copycat of the Perendev Motors scam ???

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Don't know what to make of Perendev yet. He's hiding behind corporate umbrella same as Steorn. The ones I mentioned above seemed to play the game of open dissemination of the principles their purported motors are based on. Recall how seemingly agreeably @alsetalokin or that Bedini "Mike" were cooperating.

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #203 on: February 22, 2008, 10:08:46 PM »
did you see the support letters(latter)http://www.magnacoaster.com/magna/html/suppot_letters.html
Template latter from arnold schwarzenegger

hopefully something good will come from this effort
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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #204 on: February 22, 2008, 10:23:55 PM »
did you see the support letters(latter)http://www.magnacoaster.com/magna/html/suppot_letters.html
Template latter from arnold schwarzenegger

hopefully something good will come from this effort
pc





You gotta be kiddin'. You call this self-serving letter a letter of support. What planet are you living on? The cited letter of the Governor of California has nothing to do with the effort of this or any other researcher. The goal of this letter is to advertise how much the Governor has done on an issue promoted politically as the topic of the day. Had there been a different topic of the day you'd read how much the Governor has done to resolve the issues concerning that other topic of the day. These form letters are usually written by the staff and the politician in charge never even knows about their existence. If these people are for real they shouldn't rely on such standard correspondence to make themselves legitimate. There are well established avenues which are to be followed for a claim to be recognized scientifically. Writing to the Governor and receiving a form letter from him isn't one of them.

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #205 on: February 22, 2008, 10:45:16 PM »
Omnibus i cudut of put it better my self

hopefully something good will come from this effort (on this subject on the forum)

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #206 on: February 24, 2008, 03:40:03 PM »
Hello easily deceived folks    :)

Forgive me for being a little less serious, but I chuckle a bit seeing another Bedini/Adams style motor, or whoever else followed in the path.

THEY WORK !!!

You say,  WHAT?    Yes, I'm very serious.  They work just fine like he showed in the video.  A "dead" battery can run and spin devices quite easily, but it's not over unity.   

Here's the explanation:

A "dead" battery is not really all dead, it still has a lot of charge, but the internal resistance becomes really high.  So when you put a load with a low resistance on a source with high resistance, it kills the voltage (think of a voltage divider, and it will become apparent).

However, if you match the load to the source resistance, then you can continue to extract energy efficiently from the battery, until it's dead as dead can be.  (the inventor did mention 90% efficiency)  So, a pulsed motor performs the impedance matching just fine.  You can even have an all solid state device to do the same thing.


Notice the "inventor" did not want to run it with CAPACITORS.   That's the real test!   So far only Mike (HMM) at gn0sis.com seemed to have made a free energy motor style device, and he used capacitors! 

So, don't be fooled by "dead" batteries, they're not really dead !!!

EM

P.S.  Here's a diagram with some calculations to illustrate. 

« Last Edit: February 24, 2008, 04:26:49 PM by EMdevices »

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #207 on: February 24, 2008, 03:56:45 PM »
Yeah right,

Thats clearly not whats going on here. Look at their posts for magnacoaster. They were too ignorant to make a bedini work, so they tried to scam everyone. Hell, they cant even spell!  Their writing is hilarious. And where are they now? He logged on two days ago, not a peep. But you can bet they are watching this!
But at least stefan gets free advertising from it, right? So its all good.

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #208 on: February 24, 2008, 04:06:53 PM »
@EM

Yes you are very right. The  fact that the drive side (with magnets and 1 coil) has a much bigger diameter (more torque), then the small center sprocket going to the generator will produce good results.

What pisses me off is in our modern age of 2008, how the f*&k can you produce such a stinkin video just boggles my mind and that is what bothers me the most. How can you be so stupid to produce such crap, or to be so out of touch with reality as to accept such a low quality, and afterwards expect accolades. These guys are living in never never land. I am sorry to be so blunt but I have had it with crap. You can spend all the months and years you want in your hole, but when it's time to come out, YOU BETTER MAKE IT CLEAR.

Geez, the guy is barefoot, in shorts, bad lighting, no content, just f*&?in crap. So if he can agree to such low standards, then he deserves nothing. Sorry but enough is enough. He came here on day one with a good idea, but he will be the reason of his one demise. Some people never learn, or, they have a sadomasochist side that continually pushes them to make life hard for themselves. Just crap. He should sell his design to a company that knows what the hell to do with it, or, post it as open source and get the f*&k out of the way. Enough is enough.

By the way, patent pending, OK what's the number.

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #209 on: February 24, 2008, 10:05:06 PM »
Thanks EMdevices for sum clarity on this subject

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