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Author Topic: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load  (Read 260366 times)

Frederic2k1

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #180 on: February 21, 2008, 05:54:22 PM »
Stefan,

why did Richard say, that he hasn't got a motor in his setup ? I can see at least one in this picture:

(http://www.magnacoaster.com/magna/assets/images/front.jpg)

And when you compare the red wire going to the motor, it is the same wire which is used in the setup with the red case behind the spin wheel at my post with the circuit diagram, marked with "motor input +" and "motor -".
Take a look at the video, where he connected a drill, a lamp and the jigsaw, to start his setup he only switch the on/off button and the wheel does immediately start to spin up. I don't belive that you can have such a smooth run-up with only one little coil.

I think the setup is somethink like a cheap generator without lenz law effect, just overunity...



hartiberlin

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #181 on: February 21, 2008, 06:38:49 PM »
The picture you have shown is where Richard said,
that it is a modified alternator.
Read again all and his last postings.
This was an earlier device with the modded alternator.

Also he wrote in his last postings,
that the white bigger disc is
just a flywheel to keep the RPM constant
and you also see him gining the small
white wheel a push,so it acceleretes at the start.

As it seems he is now only using
some solid state coil with some
kind of solid state magnetic particle wraps or
other solid state magnet parts near it,
he seems not to need anymore any moving magnet
fields...

Regards, Stefan.

Frederic2k1

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #182 on: February 21, 2008, 07:04:43 PM »
Ok, but I agree particularly.

In the newest video (where he give the white wheel a push, I confess to that) you can also see the "motor" with the red wires. At 0:13 - 0:19 at the right site of the screen.

kind regards
hendrik

powercat

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #183 on: February 21, 2008, 07:43:53 PM »
Thane Heins may have an opinion on this subject http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=4047.0http://

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Frederic2k1

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #184 on: February 21, 2008, 08:05:43 PM »
ok Stefan,

you are right, there is really no motor inside. I had overlooked it sry :)

kind regards hendrik

powercat

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #185 on: February 21, 2008, 08:45:44 PM »
The 300kw generator has the ability to produce 290kw per hour constantly.
The units comes complete with alternator control panel and case .
Alternator: Hitachi, Bosch or AEG are used, depending on the type, volt and amp rating vary.Output
European standard : 400 volt 3 phase 451 amps depending on type of alternator.
3 x 240 volt outlet sockets.
1x 400 volt outlet socket.
Direct mains connectable
EMM Motor: output 300kw continuous through a 2x1 ratio gearbox. 300 Kw emm generato
SKU/Item Number: 0091097
Weight: 350kg + depending on configuration.
Dimensions:  1.6m Long x 1.2m Wide x 1.4m High
Continuous power
No blackouts
No fuel
5 years guarantee conditional
 Price: 38.000 Euro ex tax and Delivery
Motors are never sold outright; a sale/lease agreement gives the person the use of the equipment for 5 years which is prepaid, thereafter a nominal fee is payable monthly to maintain the lease agreement, this monthly fee is normally in the region of 100-600 Euro per month, depending on the size of the unit, this fee will include a maintenance contact   http://perendev-power.com/emot300.htm

i got this here  http://www.users.on.net/~lekh/free.html
sorry if its old news

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b0rg13

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #186 on: February 21, 2008, 09:29:15 PM »
from what i understand this perendev guy will take your cash and never give you a gen, also i dont think any one has ever seen a working model from him yet.

Ben Waballs

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #187 on: February 21, 2008, 09:48:13 PM »
Magnacoaster,

Why is your account on youtube now closed? Is there a new one? Thanks

powercat

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #188 on: February 21, 2008, 11:14:42 PM »
from what i understand this perendev guy will take your cash and never give you a gen, also i dont think any one has ever seen a working model from him yet.
maybe con is in the legal terms of  ( Motors are never sold outright )
thanks for the warning

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Omnibus

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #189 on: February 21, 2008, 11:39:10 PM »
from what i understand this perendev guy will take your cash and never give you a gen, also i dont think any one has ever seen a working model from him yet.

As far as I understand, Perendev motors have been sold to parties in the former Soviet Union. There was someone here some time ago who was assuring me that the three motors they bought from Perendev for their factory in Kazakhstan, I guess it was, were all working as advertised and the guy even invited me to visit and see it with my own eyes. This exchange is somewhere in the discussion here in this forum but I can't remember where. Of course, we've heard so much crap that such claim can't be worth more than the latest ones, those of @alsetalokin or of @xpenzif, among many others.The only way these claims to gain any legitimacy is to ensure that independent parties reproduce them and publish the results in peer-reviewed literature. Nothing short of that.

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #190 on: February 21, 2008, 11:43:54 PM »
from what i understand this perendev guy will take your cash and never give you a gen, also i dont think any one has ever seen a working model from him yet.

Yes,the Perenddev stuff is a totally other company and they seem to be fraud,
as they did not deliver paid products...

Don?t confuse Magnacoster with Perendev.

Hmm,yes, his Youtube account is gone.
Luckally I saved the video as AVI...


But his website is still online at:
http://www.magnacoaster.com/magna/

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #191 on: February 21, 2008, 11:55:10 PM »
from what i understand this perendev guy will take your cash and never give you a gen, also i dont think any one has ever seen a working model from him yet.

Yes,the Perenddev stuff is a totally other company and they seem to be fraud,
as they did not deliver paid products...

Don?t confuse Magnacoster with Perendev.

Hmm,yes, his Youtube account is gone.
Luckally I saved the video as AVI...


But his website is still online at:
http://www.magnacoaster.com/magna/

Regards, Stefan.

See, I doubt even that in view of the fact that there haven't been corroborative reports. Correct me if I'm wrong. I don't think corporate interests should have priority when the scientific legitimacy of such claims is at stake. Business interests always come afterwords. What is there to protect in something whose only business value is based on psychological manipulation of the potential buyer?

Ben Waballs

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #192 on: February 22, 2008, 12:39:52 AM »
I checked out that link and wow, I have to say, I am very suprised that nobody has torn this apart yet. The video is (was) highly in question as they focus more on showing that drills run on ac etc. than any aspect of the machine. If its bedinis work then they cant patent anything, if you look at their site is is extremely amateurish. The pricing is $7,000 for a
500 - 3500 W Single Vorktex ChargerRated 52A  @  48V 1-3 Batteries or more (not included)
and the other end of their extreme price list is this one: 250 KW
20 Vorktex Chargers Rated 420A @ 450 volt 20 Batteries or more (not included $500,000 !!!! BATTERIES ARENT INCLUDED FOR MY HALF MIL!!
Come on guy!

powercat

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #193 on: February 22, 2008, 01:02:10 AM »
you are right
 replication is the best way

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hartiberlin

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #194 on: February 22, 2008, 01:15:57 AM »
I checked out that link and wow, I have to say, I am very suprised that nobody has torn this apart yet. The video is (was) highly in question as they focus more on showing that drills run on ac etc. than any aspect of the machine. If its bedinis work then they cant patent anything, if you look at their site is is extremely amateurish. The pricing is $7,000 for a
500 - 3500 W Single Vorktex ChargerRated 52A  @  48V 1-3 Batteries or more (not included)
and the other end of their extreme price list is this one: 250 KW
20 Vorktex Chargers Rated 420A @ 450 volt 20 Batteries or more (not included $500,000 !!!! BATTERIES ARENT INCLUDED FOR MY HALF MIL!!
Come on guy!

It seems you didn?t understand the impact and message of the
video at:
www.overunity.com/magnacoaster

The video was to show,
that a DEAD car battery, where you can NOT draw any current from it
for powering an inverter is now able to run constantly a REALWORLD  500 Watts
load ( a drill, a saw and a lamp together)
and at the same time recharge the battery !

So the overunity power comes exactly out of their device.

All the marketing and sales of course is their decision
and it depends on their strategy how they handle it.

Too bad they don?t Open Source it,
but maybe it will be soon in production and you can soon
buy one. We will see.
« Last Edit: February 22, 2008, 02:04:00 AM by hartiberlin »