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magnacoaster

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total power intake 1 Amp @12 volts
total output  20 amps @ 12 volts

picture is attached

Latest video at:

http://overunity.com/magnacoaster/magnacoaster.avi

( 16 MB Divx.com codec AVI file with MP3 audio)
« Last Edit: February 20, 2008, 03:37:44 AM by hartiberlin »

hartiberlin

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2007, 07:49:54 AM »
Hi Richard,

So, what do we see on the picture ?
An electromagnet controlled magnet motor driving a generator ?
Is it an alternator with DC output ?

Can you post a video with measurements ?
Many thanks.
« Last Edit: February 20, 2008, 03:38:14 AM by hartiberlin »

gyulasun

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2007, 10:03:28 AM »
Hi,

I found this link to Magnacoster Motor Company, a wholly owned subsidiary of Magnetic Research and Development:

http://www.magnacoaster.com/magna/

Nothing else...  but a promise for video coming soon...

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2007, 11:51:20 AM »
This is interesting. I am however a little bit skeptic to overunity motors, or magnet motors, where wires (Which is going "nowhere" and "anywhere") are included. Do you have plans, drawings etc. for this motor, magnacoaster?

Br.

Vidar.

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2007, 12:29:51 PM »
They posted these videos on youtube the other day.

http://www.youtube.com/magnacoaster


Looks like a pulse motor running an alternator or generator charging up a battery.

Rhett

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2007, 04:28:57 PM »
here is the layout that you need i will also post a new vidoe later today as i was doing a fair bit of work last night on the unit. you have to understand this unit will free wheel up to a speed of about 4000 rpm with no load. i have been playing with different sprockets as well as a new timing cam for the points. in the future will be going to solid state to drive the unit. also this was a big learning curve as the small unit ran great but the big unit had hurtles that needed to be crossed. outside coil temp on run is 190 F coil mask is 98 F as well as you have to use a jump wire in the gm alt. 64 se that will give you stator power right from the start. as well all the bearings have to be taked apart and cleaned as sealed units do not work. i also had to do this with the alt last night as it was built way to tight. make sure you go with the right glue as the magnets are rockets if they come loose. we are in the funding stage right now and plan to make a 14 kw unit that will power a house extra power will go back out to the grid we have a new type of gen head that only needs 100 rpm. this is about to get in there face and for sale to the public

Green energy here we come

Richard

ps:when i do the next video you will see the meter with all my numbers


Liberty

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2007, 05:36:26 PM »
Here are some standard power conversion to horsepower figures for reference.

20 watt = 0.026809651 horsepower

240 watt = 0.321715818 horsepower


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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2007, 07:20:05 PM »
Hi Magnacoaster,
Wow, what a simple idea.
So You can run this on 12 watts input, and output is 240 watts, so that is 20 times overunity for a chain coupled generator...sounds too good to be true.

As the alternator is loaded the input current will need to increase to compensate for it.
Have you tried to get 20 amps @ 12 volts out of the alternator and still only require 1 amp input?

Can you connect 3 x 55 watt car headlamp bulbs to the alternator, drive the output to a large 25V 40000uF capacitor and couple this to the input so you have a self running motor?

From the three videos on Youtube, did you have one where the device was self running and no battery connected?

I would like to know more about this with regarding you measurements on input power and output power.
Its a pity the alternator needs such high RPM to become "excited", otherwise you could do away with the gearing.

Rob 

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2007, 07:54:33 PM »
http://www.magnacoaster.com/

He updated his website this afternoon, so you may want to give it another look.

He is located near where I work, so I gave him a call and chatted for a while. Here are a couple of interesting URLs that I got from him:

http://coldelectricity.info
http://www.ecycle.com

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2007, 08:58:55 PM »
How did you measured 20Amps? Did you attached a load that is draining 20Amps? Or this is recharging current (might overcharge the battery)? Where fits the consumption of the alternator? in those 20 Amps? What are those points? a mechanical switch?

Thanks.

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2007, 08:09:14 PM »
total power intake 1 amp @12 volts
total output  20 amps @ 12 volts

One can never have too many multimeters. This week Canadian Tire has them on sale for $20, if you want to pick up a few more so you monitor the voltage/amperage in more places when you are testing your device.

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2007, 10:32:58 PM »
I've been doing some great testing along these lines for quite some time now.

If the battery is reading 14. something volts, you're alternator is not producing 20 amps since the regulator will only put a light riding current on the exciter coil. So your prime mover can turn at 4000 rpm if I am not mistaken.  But I did not see anything running at 4000 rpm. At best, what I saw from the video is around 240 rpm and that will not produce anything with the alternator.

Plus once you put a load on the battery, hence on the alternator, like if you put a battery having only 11.5 volts, the alternator will almost seize. A 63 amp alternator at 20 amps has quite a strong drag factor that your prime mover will never be able to move in the way you have your system.

Sorry but I don't buy this at all.

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2007, 03:40:58 AM »
I agree with watts up, everything shown is so badly presented it does not inspire confidence.

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2007, 12:36:46 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJXsg7bvCLU

This here must possible THE RIGHT VIDEO to the
maschine that was shown in beginnig this thread...

but .....


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« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2007, 08:13:57 PM »
like everyone out there i to have to learn about things !

if you find it easy to say that it does not work then you can build your own
i am doing the best as this is 2 years of my life into this so far !

also everything you have learned will not work as all the ideas about gears and pulleys
are not right as we wanted to go faster and we had a 12 tooth  and 35 tooth we swaped  the 12 to a 16 only to see it go slower !

i also want to get all the bugs out before i change it over to a Electronic control as this will make the change over easy as well as not cost me a few hundred everytime we burn out a controller !

i have melted coils here as well as parts that looked good on paper only to find in the real world that there was no way to make them work !

as well i plan to build a new type of gen in the next few weeks to get more power and less pain out of it the same one as the wind guys have that needs to go 100 rpm
that way i can gear it to run and have almost no load on it

our speed right now is not right i have ordered a new sprocket but i cant get it till monday as it was not in stock !

if you want to go and buy all the crap i have bought in the last 2 years you may want to have a deep pocket as i have put in 120,000 in time as well as 10,000 in cost that came from my pocket as well as all the nights that i could not sleep !

the little units you see on here for display will not work the same as the next size up if you start with a 10 mm magnet and go and increase it to 1 inch magnet you will see what i mean !

i never said i have a phd in electronics or in machanics but what i do have is the chance to make a difference and to make my unit work !

maybe if we all work togeather then the world would had green power by now  !

Richard