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Author Topic: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load  (Read 224369 times)

Offline hartiberlin

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #60 on: May 05, 2007, 12:15:54 AM »
we have the battery charged its taking 2 amps continus

the 5 amps we pulled was on the pump

So that means, although you drive a pump with 5 amps from the same battery
and you also power the motor for the drive device,
the ampmeter shows -(minus) 2 amps directly at the pluspole of the battery,
so indeed the battery is recharged all the time by the device
and additionally operating the pump and the motor ?

Is this correct ?

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #61 on: May 05, 2007, 12:21:54 AM »
ok i think you all are not seeing it

i get 2 amps out to the battery (it keeps it toped)
i ran a air pump and it showed no discharge from the battery
it bulled about 5 amps i put it in front of the meter that was hooked to the battery


so no there was no use of the battery just a recharge
i also found a place to wind my new coils they have a winder
and figure it can make 12 within a hour this way they will all be
the same size and thickness

as well i have made a new drive wheel i went looking for a
electronic sensor but have not found one that will do
50,000 opens a minute

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #62 on: May 06, 2007, 06:24:15 AM »
@MC

I think what hartiberlin really wants to know is what we all want to know, and the information you are suppying is non-conclusive of anything (to us) until it is clearly understood.

Example, when giving voltages, you never really have 12 volts, it's always 12 point something. A battery is rarely at 12 on the dot. Also, amperage at 2, it never really 2 but 2.XX. Also, the air pump is at 12 volts and not 12.XX and the amps is never 5 but 5.XX. Unless the 12v 5A is what is written on the pump label as its rated voltage and amperage. So if the air pump is not loaded or not pumping anything, the pump is not drawing 5 amps, but mostly 1 or 2. The amps rating is under load and under load, air pumps will draw current and warm up  like anything else.

So from what I am understanding, you are running an air pump, maybe unloaded and it is drawing 1 or 2 amps (maybe not 5), and the generator is devellopping 2 amps. So the gain/loss potential is very small and with a 12 volt car battery, it could take a long time for the battery to lower in voltage if it is in a small loss situation.

Lastly, you are not mentioning the current draw from your two coil drive motor section
or if the battery is running this also.

Sorry to be such a pain or sound negative but all I am trying to do is give you an understanding of what it takes to show people exactly what is happening with your device in a concrete manner so as not to create any possibility of misunderstandings. regardless of where you wisht o show your device, the better you convey your comments and results, the less time you will spend trying to explain yourself afterwards.

I have made a small diagram to show you what I mean. If your set-up is similiar or close, you can do as follows,

1) Set the air pump pressure using an outlet valve so that is will not fluctuate while you take your readings.
2) Take amperage readings at A, B, C and D.
3) Take voltage readings at V1, V2 and V3.

This should be enough to calculate any OU potential. Now if the calculation winds up that the gain or loss is so small. Then it would have to be run for X hours to confirm.

All the best and good work.

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #62 on: May 06, 2007, 06:24:15 AM »
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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #63 on: June 09, 2007, 12:05:25 AM »
any news on this thing??

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #64 on: June 09, 2007, 03:02:33 AM »
well i tore it all apart and made it from scratch its all made from nylon as well as a new genorator head and bigger magnets i just have to get it all back togeather on the weekend so i can see what the output will be

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #65 on: July 18, 2007, 12:36:56 AM »
ok we have done more testing and have a new plan as of right now

input voltage to motor

12 vdc @ 1.5 amps

output from motor circuit

200 vac @ 2.5 amps



this gives us a  2700 % increase

we have reached unity

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #66 on: July 18, 2007, 02:36:18 PM »
I cannot belive anything of this.
Your statements clearly show faulty measurements.
You haven't really shown how you have performed you measurements nor have you measured
the input vs output voltage and current waveforms on a oscilloscope neither have you used certified instruments.
This clearly show that you haven't got a clue how electrical measurements are made.

Do you really belive that you have 2700% more output than input whithout questioning your own results without
any doubt or asked for professional certification? Then you are not fit to belong in this forum.

Basic Rules:
1: Don't make judgements yourselves on your results. Let professionals judge them.
2: Show exactly how you made your measurements in every little detail. Unless this is made your reports stink.
3: You should really take some lessons in electrical physics in how to make correct measurements and how to present them.
4: Most important. Make a self runner capable of doing some heavy work besides being a self runner. Show professionals your setup.
« Last Edit: July 18, 2007, 03:06:00 PM by Ergo »

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #67 on: July 18, 2007, 06:04:12 PM »
I cannot belive anything of this.
Your statements clearly show faulty measurements.

i did not do my own measurements  we had it done by the university


You haven't really shown how you have performed you measurements nor have you measured
the input vs output voltage and current waveforms on a oscilloscope neither have you used certified instruments.

his instraments were certified and we checked them before and after

This clearly show that you haven't got a clue how electrical measurements are made.

well i seem to be the one who has done this and he agreed (prof) with me there was 12 vdc @ 1.5 amps in
and 200 vac @ 2.5 out as we need to have a way to make sure if the battery explodes it can be contained
as well as we need to do more testing to see how to get the most from the voltage

it was running @ 5 nano seconds betweeen waves this was fast power

Do you really belive that you have 2700% more output than input whithout questioning your own results without any doubt or asked for professional certification?

we will be going back within a few weeks as we all need time to digest what we have found as well as to get a handle on a way to slow the wave down and convert the power to useable DC



Then you are not fit to belong in this forum.

you are mister grumpy i see

Basic Rules:
1: Don't make judgements yourselves on your results. Let professionals judge them.
did that
2: Show exactly how you made your measurements in every little detail. Unless this is made your reports stink.
i will be doing this
3: You should really take some lessons in electrical physics in how to make correct measurements and how to present them.
why so they can teach me why it would never work (i have changed a few text books)
4: Most important. Make a self runner capable of doing some heavy work besides being a self runner. Show professionals your setup.

with a change in the windings and some parts we can get 100 amps @ 200 acv out and only put in 12 volts can you do it ?

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #68 on: July 18, 2007, 07:56:13 PM »
@Ergo

Relax will yeh already. No need to blast your horn. MC has been working very hard on his device(s) for months and months now and is showing it here and deserves some recognition. What he made did not materialize out of thin air.

Look at his previous set-up. That small motor on the right is turning that heavy inertia wheel in the center that is turning a chain gear coupled to his generator. The gears are I'd say 3:1 (3 turns of prime mover to 1 turn of generator). The 3:1 ratio matched to the inertia wheel produces alot of energy onto the generator. It seems he is also using a switching system to reduce BEMF on the generator but I could be wrong. Alot of this is Tesla. Everything is slim and not much room for wasted energy as heat developed in a standard generator. The only waste will be the chain gears friction. I don't see any capacitor(s) that could help in capturing BEMF.

@MC

You said "we have reached unity".
That's overunity if you ask me.

Good work man. It must have taken hours and days just to balance those wheels, let alone work your components into them. Fantastic work indeed. A true creator and great precision.

Please describe to us your new set-up or a photo and if possible try to explain how the university was measuring your results. Did they make a block diagram of the set-up and show where and how the measurements were made? See my previous post above.

I saw your other Youtubes, Good work. I know you are excited as we can sense your very exuberant attitude. Keep your good spirit.

A good proof is using a battery, showing that power never goes down and lighting up x watts of light bulbs showing voltage and amperage for x hours. This is a winner. Even better is looping the ouput power back to the prime mover off of a small 12V-4A battery while llighting up some bulbs. The smaller the battery, the better is the proof. Or even looping straight if the system can cut it. You may need an small AC//DC transformer to do this since the out/in voltages may not concur.

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #69 on: July 18, 2007, 08:42:36 PM »
Sorry but I'd really like some proof this time instead of just hearing the same story over and over
from some guy here that reports OU and then there is silence when we ask for validation.
And 2700% OU sound just to good to be true, and so far OU has never been true when tested for real.

I encourage you Magnacoaster to really prove your setup with real data and documents on your design
so it can be replicated and verified by other members at this forum of Overunity.

If you indeed have got "real" overunity then I'm really sorry for flaming you.
In this case you should have the Nobelprise and congratulations from the whole wide world.

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #70 on: July 19, 2007, 12:48:22 PM »
Which university conducted the measurements and what was the student or prof's name? We can easily contact them for a more technical discription of how the measurements were made and what equipment was used to measure.

Just an idea,
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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #71 on: July 19, 2007, 01:26:56 PM »
Hi Magnetocaster,
could you please do the following test and upload a new youtube video ?
Please connect ampmeter after battery and voltmeter across battery and film it while running your unit and then put two 100 Watts incandescent light bulbs
in series to your output and show us, that they light up from the 12 Volts x 1.5 amps input.
Let this run for at least 3 minutes..
Many thanks.

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #72 on: July 19, 2007, 01:42:54 PM »
within the next 2-3 weeks i will be in my NEW lab we will be streaming video from there
i will then hook up cameras More then 2 as well as other equipment for all to see

due to the fact that the motor is putting 200 volts into a 12 volt battery
the bang as the battery explodes will be big (thus why im not running it at the moment)

Richard

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #73 on: July 19, 2007, 02:43:30 PM »
You can step down the output voltage by leaving it as AC run it through a transformer and then rectify it. With a standard 120v-12v 10:1 step down from 200v@2.5a would give you a 20v@25a which would work well on a AGM battery as they are much more efficient at retaining large amperage pulsed recharges.

Just another idea!
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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #74 on: July 19, 2007, 10:14:14 PM »
@MC

Usually you will not be able to charge more than 20% of the battery rated amperage. So if you have a 100 amp battery, you can charge up to 20 amps x 12V = 240 watts. But that is a good problem to have.

I have a question for you. Is it possible to re-wire your generator so it produces only DC. This way you can charge your battery and use DC bulbs as load and you are not losing any power resulting from the conversions of AC to DC. There is always a loss. But then again if you are producing 2100 watts, this may not be that much of a concern.

If you have a photo of your new build, please post it.

 

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