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Author Topic: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load  (Read 225287 times)

Offline allcanadian

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #360 on: January 30, 2009, 07:57:22 PM »
Hmmm, I hope Richards knowledge and level of understanding can keep up with his ego, LOL.

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #361 on: March 23, 2009, 05:42:38 PM »
Anyone here planning on buying a unit?  Will post results if it works as claimed?

-Mike R.

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #362 on: March 26, 2009, 01:28:48 AM »
I have a better device to sell. It is magneticly frozen ice with no input except the magnetic field. It is only 400.00 dollars and has a 100 percent guarantee. Just send it back to me within 30 days, with all of the ice still in its frozen condition and I will send all your money back, less the 400.00 dollars you paid me. USING THE DEVICE WILL VOID THE WARANTEE. IF THE ICE IS NOT FROZEN WHEN YOU RECEIVE IT, YOUR WARANTEE IS VOID. You have to pay the postage if you return it.
 Similar to Magnacoasters guarantee posted below this one, but far better.
PS  I HAVE SOME T SHIRTS TO SELL ALSO: They say:  FAT PEOPLE MAKE BETTER TARGETS.

We offer a 30 day money back guarantee from date of purchase. 

The unit must be deemed in good working order by our staff before the return will be processed.

Any unit that was damaged from improper installation will not be accepted as a return unless there has been a repair made on the unit to replace any and all parts that may be damaged. Buyer to pay any and all shipping and or duty charges back to our plant of any unit in need of repair. 

1 year guarantee against manufacturer defects Vorktex power unit.

This does not cover units that have been changed or modified. We are not responsible for units that are damaged due to improper hookup. We are not liable for any damage to batteries or inverters due to improper hookup. We are not liable for any damage to batteries or inverters due to improper sized units and batteries. We are not liable for any damage in shipping.  We are not liable for any loss due to loss of power or operation of the unit. Tampering and or altering the unit in any way void’s the guarantee. Buyer to pay any and all shipping and or duty charges back to our plant of any unit in need of repair.

Aims Inverter carries a 1 year from Aims direct.

Coils in the Vorktex unit will carry a 3 year limited guarantee against manufacturer defects

This does not cover units that have been changed or modified.

We are not responsible for units that are damaged due to improper hookup.

We are not liable for any damage to batteries or inverters due to improper hookup.

We are not liable for any damage to batteries or inverters due to improper sized units and batteries.

We are not liable for any damage in shipping. 

We are not liable for any loss due to loss of power or operation of the unit.

Tampering and or altering the unit in any way void’s the guarantee.

Buyer to pay any and all shipping and or duty charges back to our plant of any unit in need of repair. 

Call us before you ship any part so as we can give you the correct way to package and ship defective parts back to us as well as shipping information


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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #362 on: March 26, 2009, 01:28:48 AM »
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Offline vrand

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #363 on: March 26, 2009, 05:31:00 AM »
If this magnet/coil setup can run between 5khz and 6khz, it has a striking similarity to the Stephen Marks TPU.  The coil that gets hot is a similar symptom that the TPU had as well. :o

Is Magnacoaster using same poles, say N to N, facing each other to cause the current to flow in the coils when pulsed? 

Will this cause demagnetizing of the NIB magnets, over say several months, of constant pulsing N to N fields to the magnets?

-Mike R.

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #364 on: May 01, 2009, 11:49:07 PM »
I see he did the show last week but this is getting worse every time i take a peek.  Why bother going to a show with a non working prototype unit behind plastic screen? Why does the booth look like this was setup in 20 seconds flat? Why carry on using big boxes with tacky stickers on them looks like a 5 years old toy box?

Where are all the orders and shipments sent out since February? How many more "NEW" timing boards can be made? Why has the giant factory plans employing 4500 staff still at 2 people one year later? How come the new premises has transpired into a small lock up with rent about 20 bucks a week?

Why does his website look like it was made by a teenager back in 1995?

Does any of the above look like a rapidly expanding business with solid OU technology?

Anyone have any answers?


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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #364 on: May 01, 2009, 11:49:07 PM »
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #365 on: May 02, 2009, 12:23:41 AM »
"Anyone have any answers?"

Sure, I have answers. Here are some: Don't buy free energy devices from someone who wears "Fat People Do (or Are) XX" tee-shirts to a business meeting with a potential million dollar investor.
Don't buy free energy devices that need batteries to run.
And, finally, don't believe YouTube videos without independent confirmation.
Magnacoaster's entire attitude is one of contempt for the suckers. I'll bet he laughs his way to the bank, just about every day. The only things of value he's got are the tee-shirts. They make pretty good dog blankets.

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #366 on: May 02, 2009, 04:03:40 PM »
@ Bolt

This may not be the answers to your questions but I thought I'd post it in case it might make sense to someone here on the forum....

From http://www.vorktex.ca/page/277176203 :

"The secret to our units is best described as the following :

Power if pulsed into coils in the right format can remove the fields from the windings.

The magnetic field will return and cause a higher voltage and amperage then the pulsed power.

You need to remove the AC power on the output as you can only output DC to the battery.

The battery is used as a treatment for the Frequency of the power as it is pulsed DC.

Richard's Version

How it Works Laymans terms

Our Revolutionary Patented Process:

We pulse an electrical charge into a set of coils that are wrapped by neodymium magnets.

This pulse dissipates the internal field of the magnets.

When the pulse stops, the magnetic field returns creating a supercharged electric output.

We then collect this high output back from the coils.

This high output of power is then rectified and returned to the battery that it came from.

 Don's Version"

I find it interesting that a couple of things mentioned like "Power if pulsed into coils in the right format" and "wrapped by neodymium magnets" might hold some value as opposed to the normal way of pulsing coils but then again it's all speculation at this point until we see "One unit" being tested by a reputable source :)

Still holding my breath and slowly turning blue..... :P

Regards,
Paul

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #366 on: May 02, 2009, 04:03:40 PM »
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #367 on: May 03, 2009, 03:24:13 AM »
"Our revolutionary patented process"

Can anybody tell me the patent number?

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #368 on: May 03, 2009, 09:37:24 AM »
There is none. Richard is to cheap to actually apply for a patent.
But saying there is one might trick some easily fooled invester.....

« Last Edit: May 03, 2009, 05:23:14 PM by Ergo »

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #368 on: May 03, 2009, 09:37:24 AM »
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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #369 on: July 13, 2009, 03:18:41 PM »
Hi All

Sterling D. Allan has updated information on the latest "Magnacoaster Vorktex nearing commercial rollout" at http://pesn.com/2009/07/10/9501552_Magnacoaster_Vorktex_products_nearing/ which includes an audio interview and also a link to the patent at http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20090528&CC=WO&NR=2009065219A1&KC=A1 which includes schematics and information that may be of use to some in trying to figure out how this device works.

Thank you Sterling D. Allan and Richard Willis for the update :)

Regards,
Paul

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #370 on: August 14, 2009, 12:29:01 AM »
This guy is still going unlike his unproven devices

 Now he's saying he has developed a new coil 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXG299jSrVw&feature=channel_page
Bang
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9OR_7ufcSE&feature=channel_page

14 videos on his channel page
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=Magnacoastermotors&view=videos

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #370 on: August 14, 2009, 12:29:01 AM »
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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #371 on: August 20, 2009, 02:28:22 PM »
Attached is the patent in a html document.

I've embedded the images with the  pertinent text to make it easier to read through.

There appears to be errors in Fig 1 & Fig 6 related to the output bridge. Surely he is not purposely reverse biasing the diodes.

Also I did some initial test of the circuit and have not seen anything interesting so far. Still much to try.

-Duff

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #372 on: August 29, 2009, 04:12:41 PM »
Attached is the patent in a html document.

I've embedded the images with the  pertinent text to make it easier to read through.

There appears to be errors in Fig 1 & Fig 6 related to the output bridge. Surely he is not purposely reverse biasing the diodes.

Also I did some initial test of the circuit and have not seen anything interesting so far. Still much to try.

-Duff
I looked over the schematic and, frankly, don't see anything that looks like it will work. I say this because I've done a fair amount of experimenting with MEG setups.
The problem I found with the MEG is that switched magnetic current (from a permanent magnet) does NOT produce electricity through a coil. I switched magnetic current through the core of a coil in a variety of configurations, but it would never produce any power. I could see the switching pulse quite clearly, but there was no difference in output when the magnet was removed from the circuit. I even switched the magnetic current mechanically, with the same negative result. However, as soon as there is any movement, current is generated.
Based on my experience, I believe that magnetic current from a PM will not produce electricity in a coil without some sort of mechanism to alter the phase of the B and H fields. For the same reason that DC is not created by wrapping a coil of wire around a magnet, the MEG fails to produce power.
The "law" that states that changing magnetic current in a core induces power is not entirely correct. If it were, a square wave would not pass through a transformer, which it will. The "law" would be more precise by stating that current can be induced through a transformer as long as there is a phase differential between voltage and current in the input signal. As soon as this phase differential disappears, as in DC, the transformer ceases to work.
This is the same with any MEG. Unless a mechanism, such as movement, is found that can change the phase of the B and H fields, no extra power can be created.
Perhaps this mechanism has been discovered by Magnacoaster and purposely left out of the patent, I don't know. Nevertheless, I have experimented with an almost identical setup in the past and obtained no results.
This is one of the reasons I question Bearden's apparent success with the MEG. In his incessant ramblings, he fails to mention the simple facts I have presented above. Anyone who has ever tried to build a MEG has run into these issues. The MEG is not a complicated device, yet he makes it sound like some exotic machine. Why doesn't he explain the working of a MEG in simple language? He either figured out a way to shift the phase without movement, or he's full of it (I chose the latter until proven otherwise).
Anyway, that's my two cents.

Cheers,

Ted

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #373 on: August 29, 2009, 07:17:33 PM »
You are totaly correct in your findings, Ted.
If you wonder why a MEG doesn't work then please have a look at the explanation below.

All ferromagnetic materials has a magnetic min/max level and this is called the B/H hysteresis curve.
A magnet inserted into a transformer circuit will shift the B/H curve of the ferromagnetic material.
In dynamic mode (pulsing) you repeatedly have to force the shifted B/H curve back and forth past zero level.
This takes just as much power as you gained by inserting the magnet.
But wait....it gets even worse. When you insert a powerful neodymium into a transformer you
actually force the ferromagnetic core close to saturation in each pulse cycle and this causes a
lot of power loss on every pulse repetition. These losses are a lot higher than a regular transformer
that is working safely away from being saturated.
There you have it. A magnet boosted transformer, aka MEG, will always perform less good than any
regular transformer.

Simply put:
You can't redirect the static flux from an inserted magnet without spending the same amount of
electrical energy in the coils. Gain ZERO

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #374 on: August 30, 2009, 05:33:38 PM »
You are totaly correct in your findings, Ted.
If you wonder why a MEG doesn't work then please have a look at the explanation below.

All ferromagnetic materials has a magnetic min/max level and this is called the B/H hysteresis curve.
A magnet inserted into a transformer circuit will shift the B/H curve of the ferromagnetic material.
In dynamic mode (pulsing) you repeatedly have to force the shifted B/H curve back and forth past zero level.
This takes just as much power as you gained by inserting the magnet.
But wait....it gets even worse. When you insert a powerful neodymium into a transformer you
actually force the ferromagnetic core close to saturation in each pulse cycle and this causes a
lot of power loss on every pulse repetition. These losses are a lot higher than a regular transformer
that is working safely away from being saturated.
There you have it. A magnet boosted transformer, aka MEG, will always perform less good than any
regular transformer.

Simply put:
You can't redirect the static flux from an inserted magnet without spending the same amount of
electrical energy in the coils. Gain ZERO
Hi Ergo,
I'll have to disagree with your hypothesis based on my own experience. While what you say about saturation has some merit, it does NOT take as much energy to switch a magnetic path as is contained in the flow. Joe Flynn has proven this, among others, in his Parallel Path research. Theoretically it's about a 4 to 1 gain in physical force measured as attraction between metal objects due to the electrical control signal alone compared to the switched circuit. Reality is closer to 3 to 1, but this is still a significant gain.
The reason the MEG doesn't work is not due to hysteresis loss or saturation issues (which I am well aware of). In my opinion it rather has everything to do with phase differential of the B and H fields. I have proven this to my own satisfaction through experimental results and encourage others to do likewise.
Joe Flynn and Jack Hilden Brand have both developed this principal into functional motive devices for all to see, yet it is still almost completely ignored in academia. Not that this surprises me, but rather it is but one more reason to look beyond accepted academic dogma in order to discover new technologies.

Cheers,

Ted

 

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