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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #345 on: December 13, 2008, 12:58:02 AM »
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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #346 on: December 13, 2008, 01:33:46 AM »
Hi Thaelin

I just tried the http://www.cbc.ca/dragonsden/video.html link and it's functional, maybe they were doing web site maintenance when you tried.

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #347 on: December 13, 2008, 04:04:35 AM »
well one is me the other is the girl that answers my phones.

as for unplugging the battery and running without it in there it needs a storage device.
im not a big fan of caps as if they have a problem they will blow and this can cause dammage.
the battery is also can be recycled where as the caps and all these new batteries can't

there is a new battery coming out we are waiting for the info on it as its a nano unit
i was told they can charge it for 4 hours and get 40 hours of power back out !
if this is true it would mean that we can use 2 the size of a computer tower
and run the car no problem.

when i move to my new unit in the next few weeks i will start a streaming cam
and put the unit off in a corner with a area around it all empty and just let it run
this way you can sit and watch it for days.

we have the new case almost ready and from what i was told it looks great
no front cover as of yet but i have to get the guy who makes it pretty to work on it
im sure it will look cool.

things are moving ahead problem is the world seems to be one step behind
we were to move on the 15th and the unit will not be empty until the 1st.
then we can get in and get our new milling machine setup and running

as for getting a true reading i have to get my hands on a fluke meter its about 5000 bucks i
want them to bring one out and show me it works before i buy one as i have a drawer of
meters that cannot measure the amperage and the meters just blank out read the fine print
as if you put power above the meters range then you caused the dammage and they will not fix them.

we have a digital scope and its not in my shop as it had a melt down and it does not
work anymore i have sent it back 3 months ago for repair .

i have also seen my probes for the heat blow out meters as they pickup the static
and send it back to the meter good thing i see it before i blew the meter out.

the clear covered unit was great to work with but as we pull a vacuum to remove the air from the oil.
this way as you run the coil will not build up a air pocket. as the magnets will attract the air in a liquid.
the use of the vacuum cracked the plastic and the oils was leaked from everywhere. we were able to use a
lazer heat gun on it to get a reading. we also got some new clear 1 inch lexan and the problem is the
gun cannot read the heat as the atoms block the true reading.


got a new brass pump and a motor to drive it so we can have a steady flow of oil go across the coil
as the oil cools the unit as well as stops static buildup. the motor had to move slow enough so that there
would not be a interferance in the magnetic feilds. also we had to find a oil that does not eat the coating on the wires.
as well it had to be thin enough so it can pick up the heat.

as for batteries we are using the new jell filled battery and it is ok with the power input
its a few more lbs then the unit from the car but no worries about it leaking.



i am also working on the timing circuit again to see if i can tweak a little more out of it
i know that wave i need to use to run the unit. the timing device i have now is close
so we can get the max output.  the wave in controls the power output if the wave is wrong
then you will have less power. i had more control of this in the points unit as i could
just change the angle on the cam and change the wave. now i have to change the parts.


i have used some on the electrical programs out there to simulate the run but the problem is
most of them lack the depth to adjust when you change the parts on the screen. we change
the part in the real world and then we see things we di not see in the program.


the other issue is the heat from some of the parts in the program it does not show
any heat numbers. this is not true in the real world so we have to change the heat sink.
sometimes there is more there then we can disapate and then we have to go back
and change to a different part.

we are going to cut the core plastic size down as we made the unit big for when we did not have
a pump running full time. this will make the unit smaller and also weight less.

the coils have been and will be a challange as if there not done right and you do not
use the right coating then you will have a coil that will not run for more then a few hours.
when you shut the coil down it can cause a rub on the wires on the inside of the windings if you have
not made it right.  thus on restart you will blow the coil and it will cause a 20 amp
draw on the timing circuit. there goes what you had as a timing device.

the output power needed a bigger board as it melted - burned the copper off the regular pcb
i have a company that says they can make them so i will see if they can get me a sample for testing
the one i have made from solid copper works well.

other problems we had in the past are gone i have all the suppliers ready to go and we can produce the units
once we move to our new unit. (come on april 1) we are also in talks with a owner of a bigger unit 100000 SQ.ft.
to go to the next level of production. this will be in cambridge. there will be a few more people there to help
produce the units in that factory as well as all the new convayors and load stations. these like most things take time
to get plan and setup.


hope i have answered all this weeks questions chat to you all later

Richard


If I read this correctly, it appears that the heart of the unit is a output power coil in oil (for cooling) with one or more control coils and magnets on each end.  The timing would seem to be critical to allow the output to be more than the input.  The input to the control coil would seem to be in the 12 watt range?  (Sounds like Jack's valve?) 12v @ 1 amp input to 12v @ 100a output?  In a movie he mentioned 59 or 5.9khz for the frequency of pulsing.  Seems he ran this setup on his first style motors, using the magnets on the motor and the magnet stack on the end of the coil to pulse the coil.

Has a setup like this been tested before for overunity?  It has a better chance of working since the magnet stacks are closer to the power coil as opposed to the MEG.  I would guess that the control coil is left open when not pulsed so as to not create a magnetic field that will oppose power generation.  However, the 'static' is probably from leaving the control coil open during BEMF cycle, resulting in a shorted coil after a time of use.  The oil probably helps with insulation from high voltage BEMF spikes. 
« Last Edit: December 13, 2008, 04:59:52 AM by Liberty »

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #348 on: December 13, 2008, 09:05:46 AM »
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I have the same problem.

Can somebody, who has downloaded the video put it up on youtube please ?

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #349 on: December 13, 2008, 01:26:21 PM »

There was no demonstration of the unit on the show...there was a pitch, and an agreement in principle based on performance...to be proven at a later date.

They usually follow ups on any deals reached on the show...as that was the show's seasonal finale, we will have to wait until next season to see what if anything developed.

Regards...


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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #350 on: December 13, 2008, 01:35:23 PM »
If this magnet/coil setup can run between 5khz and 6khz, it has a striking similarity to the Stephen Marks TPU.  The coil that gets hot is a similar symptom that the TPU had as well. :o

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #351 on: December 22, 2008, 10:20:02 PM »
Richard,
I have seen you on youtube - Dragons Den  - Magnacoaster.
I believe you. Joseph Newman and many others has shown
it is possible. I wish you all the best with your business.

Just don't let them fool you. Be as wise as you are.
It is a shame you won't share your knowledge with us right now,
but probably we will soon get there. :)

If this magnet/coil setup can run between 5khz and 6khz, it has a striking similarity to the Stephen Marks TPU.  The coil that gets hot is a similar symptom that the TPU had as well. :o It is not strange that is gets hot. Am I right?  :)
You are right. It looks very close.

Tomasz
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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #352 on: January 16, 2009, 12:43:20 PM »
Richard opens the books on his website.

Lots of Pics in his Galery.

And he explains about the historic and physical background of his development.

http://www.vorktex.ca/page/277176203

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #353 on: January 16, 2009, 01:16:29 PM »
That picture sure is tiny actually unreadable to me,can't make out anything on it. But I guess the important part is the pulsing behavior.

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #354 on: January 16, 2009, 01:27:03 PM »
Those are some really nice looking batteries on his site too.  Those AGM batteries are pretty nice and heavy duty looking.

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #355 on: January 16, 2009, 03:24:16 PM »
SOME PEOPLE NEVER LEARN any lessons do they?

His invention will NEVER see the light of day.  Here is SOME of what SM had to say about free energy SUPPRESSION!!

Do a Yahoo search on DEAD SCIENTISTS.

Don't miss the meeting at the FBI OFFICE at the very bottom.

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Dear Lindsay,

I would disagree with you about one point.  Being that I believe there to be a concerted effort to delay any potential technology entering the market place by those who my be adversely affected.  My first invention was a Highbred electric automobile way back in 1978.  I knew that the automotive heat stroke engine was unbelievably inefficient.  Calculations told me that it only took about 15 horsepower to keep a vehicle on the highway at 60 mph but we needed 40 hp or more to accelerate the vehicle.  To accelerate it well we needed 100 HP.  So if we design the automobile with a large hp engine to accelerate the vehicle adequately we waste a great deal of energy when the large heat pump engine is only required to produce 15 hp to cruise at 60 mph on the highway.

My solution was to find the smallest and most efficient engine I could possibly find and couple it to a storage system which could be used for and to provide for acceleration to cruising speeds..  The idea was simple and elegant at the same time.  I found my first experiments very encouraging.  I took a 20 hp 4 stroke gasoline engine coupled to a 48 volt generator coupled to two banks of storage batteries coupled to a 48 volt aircraft starter motor connected to the transmission of a ford Fairmont automobile.

The Ford worked well.  It did not have blazing acceleration but was definitely adequate.  You could drive it around town all day and on the highway at 60 MPH it would burn 1 gallon of fuel for every 50 miles you traveled.  That is very good for a 3800 Lb. Ford at 60 MPH which on it's best day would have only achieved about 18 mpg.  I had proven my idea would work so I set out to refine it.  I needed a more efficient primover and I needed a more efficient electrical conversion system.  I found a wonderful 2-stroke gasoline engine that would put out 25 hp on one gallon for 3.5 hours.

I then coupled that engine to 4- twelve volt automotive alternators run in series into 4-12 volt banks of batteries.  Now I had a super efficient gasoline engine with a very efficient electric energy conversion system.

The car now accelerated very well using the extra power stored in the battery banks and cruised at 65 MPH using 18 HP and leaving an extra 5 to 7 HP output from the 25 hp Gasoline engine to keep the batteries charged up to capacity for acceleration when necessary.  I added a governor to control the gasoline engine to throttle back when necessary and save fuel.  You could drive it over town and high way all day.  It worked wonderfully and achieved 320 MPG when driven on a trip from Los Angeles to Las Vegas Nevada, a distance of several hundred miles.  The car was a great success publicly and I invited Chrysler, Ford and General Moters to come to see the car.

They all sent representatives to see the vehicle, but I was surprised because they did not seem very impressed at all.  I thought I had discovered the solution to the energy crises and they didn't even want to study the car I built.  They were polite and they all asked me if I wanted to work for their companies but none of them were excited at all.  I couldn't understand why until I met a very impressive fellow named Delorian.  Yes the ex-president of Ford who tried to manufacture the Delorian motor car in Ireland.  After visiting with him and meeting his chief engineer, Zora Duntoff, the father of the Corvette, I learned that the automotive companies already knew how to make Highbred automobiles and so did not need my design!  This was back in the 1970's and they are just now coming out with highbred electric automobiles for sale to the public.

I find it terrible that these new automobiles are only getting 50 MPG!  That was my first lesson in discovering what I thought was a break through in technologies.  When I asked Mr Delorian and Mr. Duntoff why they were not making automobiles that could get 100 MPG they told me that it involved complicated economic issues involving the oil industry and the world economic system. . .And so here we are today.  Obviously things haven't changed much.

I told you about all this so would have a better idea of my back ground and experiences in the past.

Sincerely,
SM
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Dear Lindsay,
I have some very important things to tell you.  First. My attorney left several messages for me over the last week.  I finally called him on Friday and he informed me of the fact he needed to set up a meeting with me in his office in as soon as possible and that I needed to be prepared to meet with someone from the federal government..  I was shaken to the bone!  He also told me that I was not to mention my future meeting to anyone including the following: Paul, anyone with UEC, anyone on the Internet including you, my family, the press, or anyone in the communication business, my elected representatives and etc.

It sounded as though he was reading a list off to me.  He said that, he was.  I told him i was a little scared to show up.  He said that he understood my fear but it would be in my best interest to get into his office Monday and he would do his best to protect me.  I asked him what i needed to be protected from?  He said he had to respond to the authorities about their concerns  regarding my possible breaking of federal laws.

He said that the charges could be very serious against me and he needed to keep things from getting out of hand.

He told me that he convinced them (the federal authorities ) that I was not intentionally breaking any laws or going against their wishes in any way.  He assured them that he would get me into his office for them to talk to and they would see for themselves that I am a nice little guy who would never knowingly break the law.  So off i went this morning to my attorneys office in hopes of not getting arrested and placed into prison.  I don't think I would like prison, Lindsay...

The first thing there I was taken into a room by my attorney and told what not to say to the Feds.  Also, I was told what to do if I was arrested, etc.  So I was fully scared to death!!!  Next, I was taken into the meeting.  Therein was my attorney and his secretary with note pad in hand.  I was introduced to three gentleman in business suits.  One was from the FBI, ( Federal Burrow of Investigation ), one was from the Atomic Energy Commission of the federal government and the other
was from the Federal Department of Justice, Washington DC.  I now had to go to the bathroom at this moment of my life more then ever!!!

I sat down and listen to the man from the FBI remind me that I had been given a document from the federal government several years ago informing me of the fact that I no longer had control of my power technology because it had been deemed to be in the interests of the American people for it to remain in the control of federal authorities and that I was not to talk about it directly with other people, especially nationals of foreign countries without permission from the folks in
Washington DC.

He also reminded me that to do so would be breaking the law and committing a federal offence, which is a big thing here in America.  He went on to tell me that he was there in official capacity as an investigator from the FBI to see if i had indeed broken the law.  Why had I broken the law?  Because I had been discussing my technology with other people without the permission of the folks in Washington DC.  I asked them how they knew that I had spoken to people about my technology and they told me that:  First of all, it was not MY TECHNOLOGY.  I had no rights concerning it at all.  It is under the control of the federal government for the benefit of the people of the United States.
Second, The ownership of the technology is highly questionable.

Third, Do not play games with us Stephen, you know we know that you have been discussing the technology with anybody who will listen!  They further accused me of deliberately posting information on the Internet.  I said that I absolutely had not!  The man from the FBI said that i had been collaborating with a foreign gentlemen in Australia to post information and therefor had been involved in a conspiracy to dispense information which is against the law for me to
do.

Then he pulled out a rather large stack of papers which turned out to be copies of everything posted Internet wise about my technology for the last ten years or whatever.  Then my attorney interjected and they got into a long discussion which I didn't listen to very much.  I was looking at the man from the Atomic Energy Commission and noted he had a kind face.  He smiled at me and we began to talk.  He told me that he admired my work very much.  He told me that he thought of me as a fellow scientist.  He told me that as scientists we had an obligation to protect people from our findings or things we discover if they may be generally harmful to them or the public at large.

He told me that it was the duty of conscientious scientists to keep the black genies in the bottles so as not to harm society any more then necessary.  He mentioned the Atomic bomb and how much better the world would be if it never had been invented, right? I said , right!  He went on to discuss my technology in detail and reminded me of the destructive capability when the devices reach harmonic perfection.  I told him that was a good analogy, or way of putting it.  He told my that he didn't think I wanted to be responsible for giving out information making it possible and moreover inevitable that someone would make a big crater of a hole where their house used to stand with resulting death of themselves and possibly their families and neighbors too.  He finally finished up with, And for God sake, with the terrorists hunting for weapons of mass destruction, why on earth would you want to hand them something like this to use to kill perhaps many millions of people?  Do you think Moslems are not interested in this technology?  They have a lot of oil so they would be interested in it for another reason wouldn't they Stephen?  I agreed with him and told him I hadn't thought of it in that perspective before.

I told them all that I wasn't trying to do anything wrong at all.  I didn't realize the implications of the possible results of talking to you about the technology.  I told them that you were an engineer and interested in the scientific possibilities of the discovery only.  The agent from the FBI said that I had no real way of knowing who you were and what you might actually be up to did I?  I agreed with him.  He said that they read everything going into and out of your computer wether or not anything is posted on that web site we guys like so much...  He said that the Australian government was allied with the United States regarding this matter and that the Australian authorities would deal with you as need be.  However, lets hope it does not become necessary shall we? Yes of course I said?  I said, I never meant to get into trouble with this.

I told them I just felt bad because of all the nasty things people were saying about me and that i starting talking to you and you said that you would try and tell the straight story about me and the technology.  I have a right to defend my self don't I?  The answer was, NO!  I am not entitled to defend myself.  What i need to do is, to feel good about doing the right thing.  I need to do what my government tells me is good for me to do.  I need to develop pride in making the correct decision to keep quiet about  technology that may hurt other people or even help terrorists to kill many, many others.  I was told that With knowledge comes responsibility!!!  I told them I never intended to do anything wrong.  I was sorry.  I asked them to please forgive me and not to put me in prison.  They said they could prefer charges against me at any time but are reluctant because of my well meaning attitude as displayed during the meeting.

They told me that It would be a good idea if I told you to post information saying that I had no intention of revealing anything about my experiments or how the demonstrations were accomplished to the extent that they convinced so many people of their authenticity.  That the demonstrations were more for amusement then anything else and that I am making it very clear that I never intended to convince the public at large.  People attempting to duplicate anything they have seen in my demonstrations will not be able to do so and should not try.  I asked them if I had their permission to tell you about today and they said yes of course.  So........... that is what happened to me today.  How was your day Lindsay?

Sincerely,
SM



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« Reply #356 on: January 16, 2009, 07:07:22 PM »
That picture sure is tiny actually unreadable to me,can't make out anything on it. But I guess the important part is the pulsing behavior.

@ Broli

From what I see of the picture it is not their Vorktex unit but a comparison of a standard electrical generator and all the parts that make it up. 
There is a remark at the bottom of the picture that says "This was the old way to make power looks like a lot of parts ! " so I take it as the comparison of the standard generator compared to his units that require no movement.

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« Reply #357 on: January 16, 2009, 07:59:21 PM »
@ Broli

From what I see of the picture it is not their Vorktex unit but a comparison of a standard electrical generator and all the parts that make it up. 
There is a remark at the bottom of the picture that says "This was the old way to make power looks like a lot of parts ! " so I take it as the comparison of the standard generator compared to his units that require no movement.

Regards,
Paul

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Please have a look at the Photo Galery page  http://www.vorktex.ca/page/230944205

There are some Pics that describe , how he was doing the first setup and get succsess.
He finaly states, that there is a frequency of several thausend Herz  needet , to get the device working.
The one pic shows just a motor as usual.

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What i came up with was a coil pack that when pulsing the coil it pushed the magnetic feild off the coil pack then as the wave from the pulse stoped we could collect the back energy from that same wire and use it to power a battery. With my design and testing i found parts that worked with a certian wire as well as certain magnet sizes. The fact remains all i am doing is causing a magnetic feild to cross over the wires in a coil and then use that power to charge the battery.

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Ok so then i came along and discovered that there was a secret to the magnets and the wire as well as the coils. What i found was that a wave to pulse into the coil is not a normal wave. The wave we use helps us getmore power back out of out coil setup. the power going into the coil pack is between 1000 - 2000 Hz. Most people when they build my style of unit use a regular wave form and try to remove the power and that is the problem. You need to think outside the box. People im sure you can do it if you try real hard and have lots of free time.

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #358 on: January 16, 2009, 08:17:58 PM »
Well it appears the Dragons Den deal fell through. Since Magnacoster (Robert) is either a fool or a liar I'd be curious to hear from him why he couldn't get the capital from Brett.

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« Reply #359 on: January 30, 2009, 06:41:13 PM »
Hey FunkyJive,

I couldn't help but notice the descriptions you gave about photons like smoke rings etc. were pretty much word for word what Stan Deyo talks about in these videos,
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=nP4zQ4R8vJg
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=ubka5f1vUC8
and so on...
Are you actually this guy? Naturally when someone eludes to 'top secret' projects that they can't tell us more about I get suspicious of why the 'teaser' info was presented as their own in the 1st place.

 

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