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Author Topic: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load  (Read 227655 times)

Offline desimoni67

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #105 on: August 02, 2007, 09:15:27 AM »
If it's green $$ in the inventor(s) eyes.

There are quite a few contest that can be found on the web from a few thousand to the millions of producing a device, as claimed.

This to me is when advances in humanity, maybe over come by greed.  There are supposed claims of devices that would of replaced the combustion engine, but the devices never made it to market, with suspected pay offs to the inventor. I hope if this claim is true that it does not follow the same path.

personally,
I would prefer to keeping this invention open source, for peace of mind. With having a couple of dozen to a couple of hundred people that can replicate claims of a free energy built device, would allow me to sleep more peaceful at night.
I think we all forget that a device that would upset the supply and sale of gas, coal, and electricity would put billions at risk.

So to only keep this information to myself, would be like having to carry a multi-million dollar winning lottery ticket, but instead of carrying it for a day/weekend, I would have to carry it for month's/year's before cashing in. While watching my back every time I left the house.

Hell, If you didn't profit from such a device, I would be disappointed to the extent that if I did have a working machine, I would guarantee you there would be a check for $1000 sent the next day after installation.

anyway's keep us posted with your progress....

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Offline d3adp00l

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #106 on: August 02, 2007, 09:30:25 AM »
I'll give you 20,000.00 cash usd if you can show me without a doubt that its ou. And I get to test it, until I am satisfied. Better yet I'll offer you a partnership in manufacturing them.

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #107 on: August 03, 2007, 10:25:13 AM »
hi magnacoaster, do your business. there is nothing wrong in earning money through cleverness!!! Thanks for your assistance.

Be aware, that it is dangerous business, done by an individual only! (many lobbies fighting) and there are more important goals than earning money! (honesty, humanitarity, etc.) Personality is even more important than cleverness! Means nobody should cheat another one. Having good principles and stay to them even when this has disadvantages. And as universal/noble the motivation is, as long satisfaction lasts. Of course, earning money is important and comfortable for living in these days. In an euphoria we are much more willing to forget the rest. But remember, world is good and (very) bad at the same time. Everybody will always be confrontaded with both sides in everything he does. This is for sure. Success depends on a good strategy.

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #107 on: August 03, 2007, 10:25:13 AM »
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Offline Ergo

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #108 on: August 03, 2007, 11:09:35 AM »
hi magnacoaster, do your business. there is nothing wrong in earning money through cleverness!!! Thanks for your assistance.

Be aware, that it is dangerous business, done by an individual only! (many lobbies fighting) and there are more important goals than earning money! (honesty, humanitarity, etc.) Personality is even more important than cleverness! Means nobody should cheat another one. Having good principles and stay to them even when this has disadvantages. And as universal/noble the motivation is, as long satisfaction lasts. Of course, earning money is important and comfortable for living in these days. In an euphoria we are much more willing to forget the rest. But remember, world is good and (very) bad at the same time. Everybody will always be confrontaded with both sides in everything he does. This is for sure. Success depends on a good strategy.

Your'e truly a newbie, that's for sure.  ;D

Offline markdansie

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #109 on: August 03, 2007, 02:30:58 PM »
Hi Magnacoaster,
I have no problem with you ideals and profit motivation. I do have a problem with trying to raise 60 million without independent validation, hard data or a patent. If you have what you claim, it would be valued well over 3 billion in licence fees (USD)
With independent validation, hard data, the ammount you need to raise is rather small.
I am not sure why you wish to manufacture as its best to licence out the technology to others who have the resources to ramp it up much faster, and to engineer it for many other applications
Being a member of the NEC I can organise an independent test. I fly around the world and work in new energy fields. I will be in Canada and the states later this month (I already have had 34 flights this year) and can organise a professional validation of your technology. Happy to sign NDA and can supply references as I work with many labs and organisations.
I do wish you the best
Mark
Australia

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #109 on: August 03, 2007, 02:30:58 PM »
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Offline wattsup

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #110 on: August 03, 2007, 04:23:14 PM »
@MC

Had I known you were in Kitchener, I could have contacted you this week as I passed near your area.

Your pdf file should never have been made public so be careful of those around you. Be also attentive to the fact that inventors will ALWAYS be hit with the "I am God" syndrome, (Does save the world - save the world sound familiar) and your entourage will be struck with Gold Fever Syndrome. Yes you are not any different if you and those around you are human.

So you will pound the investment pavement, running the investor forums, demos, demos, demos, negotaions with so many money people, with hope going up and down, up and down, and after all that, when you have gotten tired of "the game", someone will come by and offer you x dollars for 51% of the business because you decided to start to big. Then the 51% shareholder will do all he can to make your life miserable and hopefully eventually kick you out. Wihout you, the business will maybe fail and another OU device will bite the dust.

You can have an easier life if you go small, get a starter investment for 20% or 30% of the business but the investor must be hands on. Get the ball rolling and once you have around 100 units working for over 6 months, you will be ready for second level investment and you will command both a much better price and much better control. Plus everytime you guys offer some shares everyones shares will be dilluted including the first investors, so you are all in the same boat, each with an oar.

But when are you guys going to realize that keeping this device open source does not detract from the money potential. On the contrary. If your device requires some special parts, you can make and supply these but leaving it open source will push the tech around the world much faster then trying to find one money man and keeping everything under super control. No matter how hard you try to keep this under wraps, people will make it, companies will try to make it and sell it, so whatever you do, the wave will be much too big for any one person to surf on alone. You are better off open source. But again this is your choice. I just would ask one question. If you are not going open source, why have you come here, shown videos on youtube, shown your device working, shown the progression of changes, etc. Unless of course what you have shown and what you eventually offer will be totally different, but I doubt it. So why come here in the first place. Don't you know that by putting your device in the publics eye, you have put your chances of patenting and keeping it under wraps to detriment. So why?

I can tell you that the investor circuit is cold, cold and oh soooooooo cold. If you have a heart, you will despise this. Money, money, money and only money. That's all they think of. Screw the world and screw even you too is their motto. All they think of is were's the profit. Ahhhhhhhhhhhh. The day they see things slowing down, they'll pull the carpet under you in a flash saying, "It is the only smart thing to do".

@all

Who here is ready tommorrow morning to make a unit if MC puts up the plans. How many of you can machine parts? One or two of you. Common. Do you know how long it will take you to make his device.

Since this is a learning OU forum, just design and make your own. What MC has shown here is that an inertia wheel has much more energy coming out of it then the energy required to maintain the momentum. The weight of the wheel, the speed of rotation, the reduced speed of the generator rotation (2:1 or 3:1 gear ratio) all make for a good OU system. Someone else showed the same thing with his small dc motors. I will try the same with a heavy metal wheel on my RV set-up and see what happens. Why not?

If you review Tesla's patent number 511,916 (thanks Erf), he explains in rather unusual details the effects of drag and means to overcome it if both the PM and Alt are well adjusted in terms of their resonance. Actually , this patent goes into much more detail on this subject than any of his others I have reviewed. Other Tesla patents are also in line with MC's device and have been around for over 100 years. Hello...........

Offline Dingus Mungus

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #111 on: August 04, 2007, 08:45:06 AM »
I'm a ex-machinist who makes quite a nice living in the IT field now. I could probably replicate in a week if all data is given and I could obtain all the same materials. If I had to work out alt materials... Maybe a month or two. The funny part is I wouldn't bother at this juncture... What would be the point unless his device measured as truely OU??? It hasn't doen that yet. It seems some members don't grasp that yet. There has been no firm measurements on CoP!

~Dingus Mungus

P.S. I'm really digging our newest member Mark Dansie. Thank you for taking part in our experiment, I hope we can mutually benifit each other in this hunt for an energy answer. Just wanted to say thanks. Good luck and glad to have ya aboard.

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #111 on: August 04, 2007, 08:45:06 AM »
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Offline Ergo

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #112 on: August 16, 2007, 04:20:42 PM »
Hello all.

I was contacted again by the so called "greengirl" that provided the link to Magnacoasters business plan.
She left me an email with some more information. You can read for it yourselves. I pasted it below.

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You have just been sent a personal message by greengirl on free energy Free energy overunity forum Freie Energie Tesla.
IMPORTANT: Remember, this is just a notification. Please do not reply to this email.
The message they sent you was:

I did indeed send you that file. I didn't mean to disappear afterwards, but alas - I got very busy.
I thought, with your skepticism, that you'd enjoy the plan... in particular the poorly written, poorly spelled plan.

Magnacoaster has a reputation for being a scam artist - into get-rich-quick schemes and looking for any way to make a buck. It can be from looking for investors for half cocked ideas like this, to suing someone for having a slippery sidewalk. He's uneducated, unemployed, has had several failed businesses and is a deadbeat dad (NEVER has he paid child support to the mothers of his numerous kids).

Trust me. I know this man. And I also know the extent he'd go to to retaliate against me if he knew who I was - hence I prefer to stay silent in the background... but people deserve to be warned.
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I think this claryfies the intention of Magnacoaster. He is of course scamming us and his investers, no doubt about that.
Regarding "greengirl" I prefer to thrust her instead of the extreme OU shouting Magnacoaster with no proof what so ever.
Magnacoaster fits perfectly in the definition "Free Energy Scam Artist".

Offline magnacoaster

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #113 on: August 16, 2007, 06:33:49 PM »
bla bla bla

she is a relative that has problems with drugs and the law

i have kids all with the same person but green likes to play games

am i working ? 

yes most people do that


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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #113 on: August 16, 2007, 06:33:49 PM »
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Offline wattsup

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #114 on: August 16, 2007, 06:34:21 PM »
Now that is totally gross.

So I guess this is end of story.

Chock another one up for frauds. Getting to be a habit.

But here, us guys cannot know this in advance. I think we trust each other enough and when someone comes in, we look to extend them the same courtesy. It's part of having such an open source forum. We are also open to sours. Rough stuff. That explains when he said he brought it into a university for testing and he did not give any more precisions when we asked him. Touch?.

OK - Now back to work.

Offline ZathEros

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #115 on: August 16, 2007, 09:37:43 PM »
Hello all, its time I chime in for my .02 cents worth...
MC it seems like you are on the right track and would like to see more.
I have to agree with others though that the best way to recoup your money is to "sell Paper" ie; sell non exclusive rights to build one or two copies of up to 5-10 kw in size. and possibly sell a basic parts kit. To date there have only been two patents that have been completely defended, but at the cost of millions. Your best bet is to copyright what you have, and sell plans/ licenses.

Ergo What  is your problem? The plan your trying to trash MC over is merely a business plan, projecting what would be needed to produce a modest quantity of his machines. Truthfully $66,000,000.00 is but a spit in the bucket.
Assuming this design is solid and works as claimed, he is making plans for the future.

A scammers business plan looks something like this:
1) Collect money & underpants
2)mumble mumble something vague?????
3)Viola! Profit!
How much money have you lost in investments with MC so far? None I would bet.
You need to have a coke and a smile and STFU.

As for those of you who don't understand directional ammeters like MC is using, they are very inexpensive and quite useful. You should go buy one and play with it.

Kind regards,
zatheros

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #115 on: August 16, 2007, 09:37:43 PM »
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Offline Ergo

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #116 on: August 16, 2007, 10:55:46 PM »
And who are you to defend Magnacoster? And this is your first post...I feel you registered here just for this post!
Hey, c'mon. You are probably in cahoots with magnacoaster and now you are trying to turn the tide.

Face it. Magnacoaster is a fraud. There is no doubt about it. And he really fits the scamming business.
Lot's of vague reports and promises and no proof of his claims. His electrical knowledge lacks all basic skills.
Regarding the money, I haven't lost any myself but surely there's lots of other naive people that has.
It's no accident that nobody have ever been able to get overunity from any machine....ever.....
So why should a plain uneducated guy just go and invent 2700% overunity, and this afterwards he has composed his money plan.
You'd better go back to the hole where you came from ZathEros. Don't try to turn the tide. Magnacoaster is history.

Sorry if I offended somebody else besides Magnacoaster and ZathEros.
« Last Edit: August 17, 2007, 08:24:24 AM by Ergo »

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #117 on: August 17, 2007, 09:53:02 PM »
bla bla bla

she is a relative that has problems with drugs and the law

i have kids all with the same person but green likes to play games

am i working ? 

yes most people do that



you really are clueless aren't you?


Offline Honk

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #118 on: August 17, 2007, 10:22:43 PM »
Hehehe!  ;D
Magnacoaster is toast.  8)

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Re: new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load
« Reply #119 on: August 17, 2007, 11:19:02 PM »
well thanks tell me more !

 i am sorry have to get back to work

maybe you need to go and read all the the tesla info

http://www.tesla.hu/

or can you read ?

 

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