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Author Topic: Plasma Electrolysis by IronHead  (Read 152770 times)

Robb077

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Re: Plasma Electrolysis by IronHead
« Reply #285 on: August 08, 2007, 05:57:48 PM »
Ironhead:
Any news on the ceramic? This technology is really hard to believe. If the hho is in a chamber so hot it can't implode it will keep on burning basically, with just a small input. Anyway, not sure on your production of hho in any volume. Could this require like 500 liters/hour to get started? Don't know much on this. Imagine it was done with 1000 liter/hr before. Maybe the tungsten primer could lower it alot. Just some thoughts.

TURTLE: KEEP UP THE PROGRESS!!

IronHead

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Re: Plasma Electrolysis by IronHead
« Reply #286 on: August 08, 2007, 09:55:11 PM »
I have the magnesium ceramic, I just don't have the time at the moment but  should soon.

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Re: Plasma Electrolysis by IronHead
« Reply #287 on: August 08, 2007, 10:21:13 PM »
Ironhead:
Sounds good. My thinking is that building the ceramic and firing it may not take too long but that the real consideration was having sufficient hho available to make it work. Not much idea about the requirements to get it started. Just trial and error probably to find out.

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Re: Plasma Electrolysis by IronHead
« Reply #288 on: August 09, 2007, 05:09:03 AM »
hey fellers Im try'n to get a parts list and all looking for things and came acroos these CPU coolers and wander'n if ther too small or can be used at all ya think.....

http://www.digital-daily.com/cooling/coolers-0107/


hkyle

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Re: Plasma Electrolysis by IronHead
« Reply #289 on: August 09, 2007, 06:44:16 AM »

This unit is going to be 10 inches long. It has 2 plasma cells in one container. This means I should get twice the heat output and should take half as long to heat the 10 gallons of water that I will be circulating. Hmmmm unless the fields start messing with each other......should have thought about that earlier, woops. Don't think it will though.

There is a 4" looking glass on the front side, this is where the cold or cooler water will enter the cell. Hoping that the cooler water will help keep the looking glass cooler...hopin anyway.

On the other side I will be putting on a screw on cap, this will allow me to change the screens when needed with ease...I tried a couple of times taking them out and putting them back in and it was pretty simple so should be OK. This screw on cap will also help with cleaning the unit and getting all that junk out. The cap will have the HOT water outlet in it, I was thinking it should be at the top of the cell.

The rods will come in from the top down into the center of the ss screens.

I need lots of heat from this guy because this is the unit I will be using for a heat exchanger. Its not as big as it looks in the picture, probable only holds 2 - 3 Gallons of water.

Like IronHead always says.......
Just Build It
« Last Edit: August 09, 2007, 07:55:35 AM by hkyle »

Robb077

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Re: Plasma Electrolysis by IronHead
« Reply #290 on: August 09, 2007, 06:20:19 PM »
Hkyle:
I think you're making headaches with the design.  Why not get one going well with one screen with the rod down the center as Ironhead suggested...and get one going well before trying to make two.
Moab was right, the video sounded like eggs frying :D

hkyle

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Re: Plasma Electrolysis by IronHead
« Reply #291 on: August 09, 2007, 07:07:00 PM »
Have you noticed wat I have done latley? What headaches? Seems pretty simple to me. I do have one that is running well. The problem with the current design is the amount on water in the cell, need more. Why not step it up a bit. It's not like this costs me a whole lota cash..This took me 1 hour last night to build. It is a easy build and anyone can do it if it has positive results. Thats why I'm doing it. I could have built 2 more units each having there own screen and seperate water inlet and outlet but thats more material and more time. This seems better for a build, to me anyway. If this does not work like I had planned then I will do multiple units in series with each other. As the water gets pumped from the first to the last cell the water will get hotter.

What video?


Hkyle:
I think you're making headaches with the design.  Why not get one going well with one screen with the rod down the center as Ironhead suggested...and get one going well before trying to make two.
Moab was right, the video sounded like eggs frying :D

Robb077

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Re: Plasma Electrolysis by IronHead
« Reply #292 on: August 09, 2007, 07:25:46 PM »
Hkyle:
I was referring to the video you posted on youtube, the 40 watt one....nice job.
The best idea is to have two screens vertical and run the rod down the center so it has equal space on each side.  Hey, you've done more on this than I have, so maybe I shouldn't comment, LOL.

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Re: Plasma Electrolysis by IronHead
« Reply #293 on: August 10, 2007, 07:44:14 AM »
OK guys new vid again for ya...This one here is with the new CFR. This guy is pulling a little more amps than what I wanted but still..Boils 1 gallon of water in 5 min. It is pulling 2.5 amps at 118v. not bad but still have to remember that when the water is circulating it will pull more amps all the time because the water is being cooled down over and over.

Also with this design the rods come down from the top into the middle of the screen, this is WAY WAY WAY better than coming in from the bottom...This way you can actually see the plasma being pushed away from the rod, and also rides up along the side. This actually makes more plasma and generates alot more heat...from what I noticed anyway.

Here is the link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7YofGZVw7g

Comments welcome.

keithturtle

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Re: Plasma Electrolysis by IronHead
« Reply #294 on: August 10, 2007, 08:02:31 AM »
@hkyle- cain't see the vid tonite- on the dino line.

So, what you've discovered, as I grasp it, is there ain't a symmetrical relationship betwixt the rod and screen?

If'n that be the case, mebbe my egg whisk idea may have some hope, once I get polarity straight.

I wanna do some testing to determine the nature of the arcing, cuz there ain't no screen, field or other positive infulence nowhere near that lower arcin' SS bolt in the pic.

That is, other than the 3 VDC potential I measured in the water...

Working with HHO fer a few- back to the plasma next week.

Keep at it!

Turtle

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Re: Plasma Electrolysis by IronHead
« Reply #295 on: August 11, 2007, 12:00:07 AM »
HKyle:
Nice video. Looks very stable now. 

Can you post a picture of it not running so to see the construction?

hkyle

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Re: Plasma Electrolysis by IronHead
« Reply #296 on: August 15, 2007, 06:21:57 PM »
Yup it's getting there...the construction pics on pg29 at the bottom...not much more than that but when I get home I will break it down and post some more pictures.

I just purchased a pwm for the guy...I will try it out see how it works in another week or two.

HKyle:
Nice video. Looks very stable now. 

Can you post a picture of it not running so to see the construction?


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Re: Plasma Electrolysis by IronHead
« Reply #297 on: August 15, 2007, 11:40:21 PM »
strange...three tries....page 29 comes up blank!

keithturtle

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Re: Plasma Electrolysis by IronHead
« Reply #298 on: August 16, 2007, 03:40:12 AM »
what fer PWM did ya get?

Turtle

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Re: Plasma Electrolysis by IronHead
« Reply #299 on: August 16, 2007, 05:01:52 AM »
This one....should be good...good volts...good enough amps....just won't start up wound out. thats ok.

http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?UID=2007080909513710&item=11-2449&catname=

what fer PWM did ya get?

Turtle