Author Topic: Plasma Electrolysis by IronHead (Read 148362 times)

IronHead · « **Reply #105 on:** June 28, 2007, 05:29:44 PM »

Quote from: keithturtle on June 24, 2007, 02:07:48 AM

OK, then... I'm aware of the differing alloys available in SS, chrome, nickel% and all that good stuff... but in this application is 316 a must? I've got it, gobs of it, but 18 ga don't bend so well, uh huh...

26 ga 304 is also on the shelf, and it bends and forms more easily. To fabricate that venturi plasma chamber would be a cakewalk outa the thinner stuff, but what would be lost for the process?

Poking along,
Turtle

304 works . The iron content is just higher

IronHead · « **Reply #106 on:** June 28, 2007, 05:37:42 PM »

I just used a filter housing for the first one I did .Thats a mic stand glued to the bottom for weight . And used a copper tub like this ,wrapped around a piece of pvc to coil it up . then connect it up and submerse into a water container to heat the water and circulate the water through the floor heating system.

keithturtle · « **Reply #107 on:** June 29, 2007, 05:21:02 AM »

Thanks IronHead for the pic. I picked up an joiner planer to mill down the ruff edges on plastic, to make the vessels to size. Thanks fer all yer advice.

BTW, the chapps controller is making me scratch my head. More at HHO thread later

Turtle

Robb077 · « **Reply #108 on:** June 30, 2007, 02:57:51 PM »

If you have the money, the best way to go would be to use a hydronics heater from Granger....Dayton makes alot of them.

http://www.grainger.com/production/info/ww-granger.htm

The real problem is the electronics. Thought Chapps had the answer...maybe not.

IronHead · « **Reply #109 on:** June 30, 2007, 03:52:03 PM »

First ,no one said the Chapp board would work for this plazma system at 100+ volts DC
The Chapp board does not support voltage this high.

Second from the specs here all you need is a rectifier ,wall plug and nothing else to supply this plasma reactor . Any frequencies you wish to put to the cell beyond the 120Hz you get from the rectifier is up to you to experiment with.

Moab · « **Reply #110 on:** June 30, 2007, 03:59:51 PM »

I will get into the flip circuit and pulser after we get some good solid burns. There is lots to build as a heater. most stuff is as simple as a crank. First thing is to get a bridge, some tungston,a screen, some kind of heat resistant vessel to put it in and spark that cell up.

.M.

Robb077 · « **Reply #111 on:** July 01, 2007, 01:56:21 AM »

The Russian version....how plastic parts hold up I don't understand.

http://guns.connect.fi/innoplaza/energy/story/Kanarev/book/1202.html

IronHead · « **Reply #112 on:** July 01, 2007, 02:01:54 AM »

because the water in the container / reactor only goes to 180F the highest it can go is 212F without being under pressure. and if the plastic is rated at 300F then it holes up to the temp.

Robb077 · « **Reply #113 on:** July 01, 2007, 02:14:06 AM »

Ironhead:
The big dream is to have about 5 of the 1 amp plasma devices under pressure to power a home power station like this....need about 100k btu.

http://www.nemw.org/ECR022103revised.pdf

IronHead · « **Reply #114 on:** July 01, 2007, 02:22:15 AM »

Oh right I gotcha . Might want to start small first to test what happens under pressure and if the whole concept you have even works.

Just my 2 cent

Robb077 · « **Reply #115 on:** July 01, 2007, 03:22:46 AM »

Found and ordered 4 of the 25 amp bridges to get the build started. Whether the whole thing works is dependent on whether you can get 17k btu (5 x 1000 watt electric heaters) from 15 watts of power, like you found with the plasma. So we will find out before too long. Not in a big hurry ....just before winter

Robb077 · « **Reply #116 on:** July 01, 2007, 05:36:57 AM »

Here is an example of an HHO self -propagating plasma burner and heater. Need to read the entire patent to understand detail.

Robb077 · « **Reply #117 on:** July 01, 2007, 04:38:50 PM »

Moab:
You made this comment ealier:
"use a glass jar and run it in small burst to see what you are doing. after you have it tuned your going to need some stainless tubeing I used 5'' 188wall. This keeps all the RF inside the cell and also makes things safer from the stand point of exess heat"

What are you doing with the tubing and why do we need to be concerning about RF? You also said to choke the 110 ac for RF. Not understanding what the RF does.

hkyle · « **Reply #118 on:** July 01, 2007, 08:17:40 PM »

Hey guys just for testing can I just use a 6010 or 6011 stick welding rod (instead of tungsten for now)...has the coating on it already?

IronHead · « **Reply #119 on:** July 01, 2007, 08:24:07 PM »

try it

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