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High voltage HHO by IronHead
« on: March 09, 2007, 12:19:16 AM »
It all starts with these videos  I made up of a quick and dirty high voltage HHO
system to show a few people here on the forums. Well I did not think this would hijack another thread (http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1500.130.html)
 completely and attract so much attention.But it did , so here we are.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnIJyNmI33U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoEXaNnBRPo


The HHO system is Hydrogen Oxygen production at 150F degrees 90VDC.This system is also pulsed. We will talk about that later as each build requires a different pulse to work proper. It is my belief that high voltage low current is required to break the bond of Hydrogen and Oxygen. At least on this level of production.This is a capacitor ,treat it like one when working with these voltages that can discharge rapidly.

It must stay at this temp (150F) or it will  steam very fast so it must be cooled with radiator. This is why I am running the bench system for a shot time . If I ran it longer you would see steam billow " A hell of a lot in a very short time" from the canister.

So what you are seeing is a dirty quick build bench top version of the system I run in my vehicle.. I will soon be removing this system from my vehicle ,to remove and replace the Silver with Nitronic as the Silver is breaking down .
Do not use Tungsten in this system on the oxygen side, It will dissolve.
316 stainless is good ,and Nitronic Stainless is preferred method.

People are asking me how much gas is produced .I am no scientist I build what works for a given application. So the system in my vehicle produces enough for what I need it to do , get more bang for the buck on a big block 454ci engine.

BTW "Moab"great job you are on the top of my list of just do-ers . The "Just done it" list as it were.
You did it with out a zillion question about this that and the other scientific blah blah. Keep up the good builds

This is a very complicated system to run in a vehicle.
If you want something easy and that is proven ,buy a MagDrive


Just Build It
 just do it!

IronHead

« Last Edit: March 09, 2007, 01:17:35 AM by IronHead »

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High voltage HHO by IronHead
« on: March 09, 2007, 12:19:16 AM »

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Re: High voltage HHO by IronHead
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2007, 12:36:42 AM »
Need input!
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Re: High voltage HHO by IronHead
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2007, 12:56:11 AM »
Wonderful!

Here is a Fullwave bridge @16 amps in cold water. I have two 312 stainless cupps for conductors. 4'' 3 1/2'' This makes HHO until the water is over 170 F. After that all you get is steam. Now at about 150 F the amprage drops to about 5-7 amps. this is the sweet spot for me so far. This is not pulsed.     Moab

« Last Edit: April 14, 2007, 04:51:03 AM by Moab »

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Re: High voltage HHO by IronHead
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2007, 12:56:11 AM »
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Re: High voltage HHO by IronHead
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2007, 01:06:18 AM »
 ;D Now we are getting into the new way that a lot of people are starting to understand. I designed a new cell just for this purpose. Using a voltage intensifier circut is my next planed cell driver, for it and it alone is hooked up to the electrolyzer. The new cell is designed to take full advantage of this no current, high voltage concept. Voltage work theory by Stanley Myers is what I have gotten into now. We think we have figured it all out. Zigouras racing has it working just fine they say. As soon as I get the electronics built I will put Joe cell and Myer's tied together with vacuum lines, the Joe cell has to come first for it is electronicly connected, and the Myers cell is totally isolated, as it should be. I will later try to market the Myer's type cell since it is way more cost effective for me to make than a good Joe Cell. Wish me luck :D.

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Re: High voltage HHO by IronHead
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2007, 01:25:24 AM »
It all starts with these videos  I made up of a quick and dirty high voltage HHO



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnIJyNmI33U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoEXaNnBRPo


IronHead



IronHead,
please let us know, how much electrical power you put into this ?

Is it really HHO gas ?
Can you show another video by lighting a few bubbles after a bubbler ?

This is an amazing rate of HHO production !
Please let us know more !
Many thanks !


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Re: High voltage HHO by IronHead
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Re: High voltage HHO by IronHead
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2007, 01:28:35 AM »
Wonderful!

Here is a Fullwave bridge @16 amps in cold water. I have two 312 stainless cupps for conductors. 4'' 3 1/2'' This makes HHO until the water is over 170 F. After that all you get is steam. Now at about 150 F the amprage drops to about 5-7 amps. this is the sweet spot for me so far. This is not pulsed.     Moab

Oh yeah. If you guys from the shop stop by Overynity.com.. Ah,, That is not your coffee pot. It' an incredible simulation. And if your coffee taist funny in the AM. I know nothing about it!

So how much electrical power is going into it ?
110 Volts AC /60 Hz rectified with Full wave rectifier and then fed onto the tubes
and it draws 16 amps ?

For around 100 Volts @16 amps= 1600 Watts this is very low HHO gas output !

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Re: High voltage HHO by IronHead
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2007, 01:36:34 AM »
;D Now we are getting into the new way that a lot of people are starting to understand. I designed a new cell just for this purpose. Using a voltage intensifier circut is my next planed cell driver, for it and it alone is hooked up to the electrolyzer. The new cell is designed to take full advantage of this no current, high voltage concept. Voltage work theory by Stanley Myers is what I have gotten into now. We think we have figured it all out. Zigouras racing has it working just fine they say. As soon as I get the electronics built I will put Joe cell and Myer's tied together with vacuum lines, the Joe cell has to come first for it is electronicly connected, and the Myers cell is totally isolated, as it should be. I will later try to market the Myer's type cell since it is way more cost effective for me to make than a good Joe Cell. Wish me luck :D.

 Okay!! Good luck! These pattons are still active. So until the meyers family drops the rights to it, youll have a hard time marketing it.

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Re: High voltage HHO by IronHead
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2007, 02:01:09 AM »
Wonderful!

Here is a Fullwave bridge @16 amps in cold water. I have two 312 stainless cupps for conductors. 4'' 3 1/2'' This makes HHO until the water is over 170 F. After that all you get is steam. Now at about 150 F the amprage drops to about 5-7 amps. this is the sweet spot for me so far. This is not pulsed.     Moab

Oh yeah. If you guys from the shop stop by Overynity.com.. Ah,, That is not your coffee pot. It' an incredible simulation. And if your coffee taist funny in the AM. I know nothing about it!

So how much electrical power is going into it ?
110 Volts AC /60 Hz rectified with Full wave rectifier and then fed onto the tubes
and it draws 16 amps ?

For around 100 Volts @16 amps= 1600 Watts this is very low HHO gas output !


I agree, but this is COLD water. amprage drops to about 7 amps 700 watts, And gas prodiction climbs at 150F you would never get that "small HHO output" from 12v system at the same wattage at any temp. And we havnt started pulsing or fliping polaity yet. I made no clames of massive gas production. I only posted it to show the effect at a given HZ/Voltage. ::) I would like to see 5 LPM, This i think would be worthwhile as a fuel supplement.

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Re: High voltage HHO by IronHead
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2007, 02:03:27 AM »
Again I would like to say. I am not to sure what Myers was doing  ,he was playing with laser interaction with electron force agitation and other high tech stuff.

As far as Volts go as I post in the first post its 90VDC on this one you see in the video. Current is much more complex of and answer. You have to understand this thing is like a capacitor and it charges like one.So we might start out one day at 30 amps and drop to 0.5 amps at 150F and the next day we might start at 20 amps and down to 0.2 amps . The cell when running in the video at 150F intermittent runs to keep stable was 0.2 if i remember correctly. The next time I fire it up it will be different .

Also ,I build for myself out of need not for the market or scientific research.
The truth is for a large part of my life I did not give a damn about the rest of the world.
But that has changed. There are many people out there that are willing to make a change in the world . This I have learned from this forum.

 I will post some nice big bangs to show HHO production and as soon as I get a hold of a friend that has a gas analysis system  and the knowledge to help me give you the specs you all seem to need.
(we already did this a few years back ,but will do it again for you guys)

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Re: High voltage HHO by IronHead
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2007, 02:25:51 AM »
@Moab,
your system is a completely different one than the onefrom IronHead.
Did you see the videos of IronHead yet on Youtube from the above links ?


IronHead?s system produces so much more gas, that it is increadible,
if it is really done only with 90 Volts DC and 0.2 Amps= 18 Watts ?

If this gas is really HHO ( oxyhydrogen ) and not just steam or CO or CO2
(maybe because of his baking soda ?) ,
then it is really an amazing production rate !

IronHead, maybe you just can put via a hose and a bubbler your device
under test again and light a few bubbles coming from the bubbler water
and show the Voltage on  voltmeter and the amps on an ampmeter.

Did you also use any special pulsing for it ?

Many thanks.

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Re: High voltage HHO by IronHead
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2007, 02:35:39 AM »
@Moab,
your system is a completely different one than the onefrom IronHead.
Did you see the videos of IronHead yet on Youtube from the above links ?


IronHead´s system produces so much more gas, that it is increadible,
if it is really done only with 90 Volts DC and 0.2 Amps= 18 Watts ?

If this gas is really HHO ( oxyhydrogen ) and not just steam or CO or CO2
(maybe because of his baking soda ?) ,
then it is really an amazing production rate !

IronHead, maybe you just can put via a hose and a bubbler your device
under test again and light a few bubbles coming from the bubbler water
and show the Voltage on  voltmeter and the amps on an ampmeter.

Did you also use any special pulsing for it ?

Many thanks.


There is no baking soda in this system . The only place I talked about baking soda was on the "ColdFusion reactor.This Cell is tap water. It is because of High voltage ,
its is because of  the right temperature , Materials , It is charging water and waiting for the reaction over time. and the freqs we have not talked about yet.  you know about one of the freqs 120hz.

No level of HHO is to low. Evolution is the road to success.
Just Build It
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Re: High voltage HHO by IronHead
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2007, 02:36:57 AM »
Yes i did see the videos. I surely havnt made gas like that. Ironhead has not gone in to to much detail yet, Give him time. He is probably waiting for the new thread to settle down abit. Congrats on your thread Ironhead. And i havnt been messing aroung with HHO vary long, Its a distraction from the TPU for me. But i would bet my favorite hat that he is pulsing and flipping polarity at a given frequency and rate. I dont see how you could get that much gas without it being pure hydrogen poroxide and bakeing soda. without pulsing or fliping,, Just a thought.

Lets build it!
     Moab

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Re: High voltage HHO by IronHead
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2007, 02:40:28 AM »
Yes both

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Re: High voltage HHO by IronHead
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2007, 02:56:08 AM »
Wahoo! Great

 Now if i can make a simple flipflop. And freq pulser from 120v-60hz. we are in! Hmm where have i seen this before? hmmmm,, ::) and its gotta run from an inverter. Or maybe even a seporate alternator that is modified to do this vary thing. Now where did i put that circuit??



              Lets Build it !              Like my new saying?   Moab

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Re: High voltage HHO by IronHead
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2007, 03:09:03 AM »
If you are full wave rectifying 60hz from the wall 115/120vac you will get 120 Hz

Flip like this at negative prim  ------ + ------ + ------- +     
Every second Negative and Positive a millisecond . you got to play with it.
Again I am not a scientist

If you go fast  you will dissolve the tungsten.SS on SS you will have no problems
of dissolving.

Pulse is from 19k to 22k the wave should be sharp.

You have to tune it. be patient between hz as there is a lag time.

 

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