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acidbreaker

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Re: Magnetic array repeling iron
« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2007, 09:50:57 AM »
anybody from canada here  ;) ?

mikestocks2006

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Re: Magnetic array repeling iron
« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2007, 03:35:36 PM »
Mikestocks
The ball is plain steel. Out of array is attracted
by permanent magnet.
In the array can levitate anything produced
from magnetic material - screws , nuts ,symmetrical
and unsymmertical objects.
Non magnetic materials dont work.


Good to know, so there are no standing eddy loops(waves) created that would effect levitation of electrically conducting but non magnetic materials.

Did you try by any chance with a non ferromagnetic base support plate eg plastic or wooden base?
Thanks.
The effect maybe very significant towards OU designs.


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Re: Magnetic array repeling iron
« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2007, 06:45:12 PM »
I didnt try non magnetic base
i will try it this weekend.
I checked magnetic flux with
hall probe and under levitating
ball is - flux , above ball +flux
and in the place where  ball is
there is zero flux.
Maybe in that place is easy
to switch magnetic flux or......
Anybody can send his idea or
suggestion to this forum and
together we could find a "sweet solution".

mikestocks2006

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Re: Magnetic array repeling iron
« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2007, 07:59:59 PM »
I didnt try non magnetic base
i will try it this weekend.
I checked magnetic flux with
hall probe and under levitating
ball is - flux , above ball +flux
and in the place where  ball is
there is zero flux.
Maybe in that place is easy
to switch magnetic flux or......
Anybody can send his idea or
suggestion to this forum and
together we could find a "sweet solution".
Thanks!.
Very interesting that you have the N poles facing up and right under the ball you get -flux readings. Did you measure at the same approximate area the flux readings without the ball present?

This would be a nice one to model in 3D. Anyone here has the ability to do so?
Thanks

love2all

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Re: Magnetic array repeling iron
« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2007, 04:04:17 PM »
Hi Kadora,

the steel ball can well have been magnetized by the earths magnetic field. For example, when it was standing in one and the same position for a long time.
That happened to all my older screwdrivers hanging in my toolbox. As I'm living in Germany at 53?N the North of the earths magnetic field is quite steeply down, not only north.

Nevertheless a very nice effect, but it has nothing to do with diamagnetism, IMO.

BTW, greetings to all of you, I'm new here, just coming over from the Steorn.com/forum.  :)

Low-Q

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Re: Magnetic array repeling iron
« Reply #20 on: March 08, 2007, 05:45:31 PM »
I have found this strange magnetic effect
Hi,

I can confirm that this works. There is a very weak repelling effect barely enough to elevate the steel ball. A ring magnet (Loudspeaker magnet) do the same thing. Imagine how the magnetic fields is performing on a ring magnet.
Then place a virtual steel ball in center above this magnet. The magnetic fields will, at a certain distance over the magnet, magnetize the steel ball in an suitable way to make it "floating" in the air. A weak push downwards on the steel ball, will force it right in between the magnets. It had been fun trying to "rectify" the magnetic field, forcing it to push the steel ball right through the ring magnet, and beyond the same point at the opposite side of the ring magnet :)
In a closed loop, imagine how it would work;)

Br.

Vidar

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Re: Magnetic array repeling iron
« Reply #21 on: March 08, 2007, 07:32:05 PM »
what would happen if mounted horizontally? i.e fix the ball to a rotor, and see what happens when the ball passes perpendicular to the array. would it just stick to one side of array, or would it escape?
i bring your attention to this video posted here ages ago, again using a steel ball, is this video related to what we see here?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnbiWsLJKgE

love2all

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Re: Magnetic array repeling iron
« Reply #22 on: March 08, 2007, 08:53:34 PM »
Hi again Kadora,

i have tried it, and it works also with new bearing balls. I used 3 piles of 2 15mm Neos in a jar lid and an 8mm BB.
Very nice indeed, yours is the fame!

On Steorn forum there is a Thread for this "Nifty magnetic induction experiment." by konduct. He and others, also Craigy, who experimenter who posts here have replicated the experiment too. Cool man!

A magnet expert posting on the Steorn forum "neo" and others say. that the BB is immersed in the flux of the magnets and becoming a temporary magnetic monopole.

love2all

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Re: Magnetic array repeling iron
« Reply #23 on: March 08, 2007, 09:03:44 PM »
It is very interesting when the whole setup gets tilted upside down. On the way tilting it is observable, that the BB stays put in its heighth WRT magnet array. After 180?, when held precicely the BB stays, so there must be attraction involved too.

love2all

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Re: Magnetic array repeling iron
« Reply #24 on: March 08, 2007, 09:45:22 PM »
Not much going on here.

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Re: Magnetic array repeling iron
« Reply #25 on: March 08, 2007, 10:16:40 PM »
Additional experiments and discussion at:
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=51221

mikestocks2006

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Re: Magnetic array repeling iron
« Reply #26 on: March 08, 2007, 10:43:26 PM »
Very good, now it only needs another sphere same size  diametrically oposite to exacty balance the plater and spin it very fast.
OU is alsmost at hand. Try the array top and bottom ( above bellow the plane of rotation), and  around the ball!

Almost there folks almost there.!!!! :)

what would happen if mounted horizontally? i.e fix the ball to a rotor, and see what happens when the ball passes perpendicular to the array. would it just stick to one side of array, or would it escape?
i bring your attention to this video posted here ages ago, again using a steel ball, is this video related to what we see here?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnbiWsLJKgE

love2all

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Re: Magnetic array repeling iron
« Reply #27 on: March 08, 2007, 10:59:18 PM »
Very good, now it only needs another sphere same size  diametrically oposite to exacty balance the plater and spin it very fast.
OU is alsmost at hand. Try the array top and bottom ( above bellow the plane of rotation), and  around the ball!

Almost there folks almost there.!!!! :)

what would happen if mounted horizontally? i.e fix the ball to a rotor, and see what happens when the ball passes perpendicular to the array. would it just stick to one side of array, or would it escape?
i bring your attention to this video posted here ages ago, again using a steel ball, is this video related to what we see here?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnbiWsLJKgE
Wow, you are a fast one, aren't you?  :o
Read on, please.
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=51221&page=3#Item_31

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mikestocks2006

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Re: Magnetic array repeling iron
« Reply #29 on: March 09, 2007, 01:18:54 AM »
Love2all if you read this thread from the beggining, kadora started it and many others including myself have been working on it for few days now...

Thanks for the link though.

Very good, now it only needs another sphere same size  diametrically oposite to exacty balance the plater and spin it very fast.
OU is alsmost at hand. Try the array top and bottom ( above bellow the plane of rotation), and  around the ball!

Almost there folks almost there.!!!! :)

what would happen if mounted horizontally? i.e fix the ball to a rotor, and see what happens when the ball passes perpendicular to the array. would it just stick to one side of array, or would it escape?
i bring your attention to this video posted here ages ago, again using a steel ball, is this video related to what we see here?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnbiWsLJKgE
Wow, you are a fast one, aren't you?  :o
Read on, please.
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=51221&page=3#Item_31