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Rosphere

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Rosphere_TPU_01
« on: March 04, 2007, 06:44:40 AM »
I am almost finished with my first crack at it.

Been at work on the bench, not the PC.

Dual 555 started and completed Friday evening.

Mag wire Jig conceived, built and used Saturday.

TPU construction started and completed Saturday.  Very simple testing design.

All I need to do now is make some random connections and fire it up with some random frequencies; tickle it under the chin with nine volts, (x2 optional.)

However, my body hurts from so much hunching over and building.  I need to rest now.  If I try it now and nothing happens on the first try then I go to bed not so happy.

Now I look forward to the trials tomorrow.   :)

Here are some photos for now.  I will update this topic later, success or failure.

I wrapped my hoops with 30 gauge mag-wire.  Took most of the day to make the jig.  All three wrapped in half an hour total.  Hoop diameter is 5.25 in.

Final wrap with 18 gauge speaker wire.  All 100 feet used.

Rosphere
« Last Edit: March 04, 2007, 07:31:56 AM by Rosphere »

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Re: Rosphere_TPU_01
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2007, 04:40:52 PM »
Very, very impressive. I stand and applaud! You should see some effects.

You pick one frequency, let's 5k. Then you move the another freq through a range slowly. Watch the scope and kicks will appear. Since every TPU is slightly different the span of frequencies and the difference between will be different.
Tesla said 12khz was high. Now you can play!

You have single segment control coils. This will be a great experiment. Take an ohm reading of them. Looks like 60 to 100 for as much magwire turns you have. Put a 1k in line for starters then bring that down to get the best current for the best kicks and magfield. Don't want to blow up the 555 that's all.

--giantkiller. Good work!

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Re: Rosphere_TPU_01
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2007, 06:24:19 PM »
Very, very impressive. I stand and applaud! You should see some effects.

You pick one frequency, let's 5k. Then you move the another freq through a range slowly. Watch the scope and kicks will appear. Since every TPU is slightly different the span of frequencies and the difference between will be different.
Tesla said 12khz was high. Now you can play!

You have single segment control coils. This will be a great experiment. Take an ohm reading of them. Looks like 60 to 100 for as much magwire turns you have. Put a 1k in line for starters then bring that down to get the best current for the best kicks and magfield. Don't want to blow up the 555 that's all.

--giantkiller. Good work!

Thank you, GK.  :)

I started making some connections and taking some readings this morning.  Nothing significant to report,... yet.  You know I will try your suggestions soon.

Domestic obligations are cutting into my day today starting right now.  :(

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Re: Rosphere_TPU_01
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2007, 09:53:01 PM »
Hello Rosphere

Professional looking work!!   I hope and pray this device works for you
     and does it well,   we need it...

Edit: sorry about the frantic sounding post must have been a bad hair
       day. :-X

I wish you success in this endeavor ;)

Dirt
« Last Edit: March 13, 2007, 03:49:47 AM by joe dirt »

Rosphere

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Re: Rosphere_TPU_01
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2007, 12:32:22 AM »
GK, I only made one pass with the mag-wire on each hoop.  I measure 30 ohms each.

I put the 1k resistor in series with the windings as you suggested and I saw a signal.

(Thanks for the tip here.  When I hooked my very first 555 to my very first coil, weeks ago, I saw the one spike on the scope and then flat line.  Disconnect.  Reconnect.  Same result.  Time and again.  So, I used a cap in series between my 555 pin 3 and my coil and saw the reoccurring signal.  Your method of adding the resistor also works.  Which method is best, the capacitor or the resistor?)

I am down to 680 ohm resistors and I still see a signal.  How low can I go?  :D

Regarding the six hoop ends: at first, they were all open.  Then I joined each hoop end to the other end in the same level, making three connected hoops.  Next I want to try diagonal connections.

Can a nonlinear medium ever be constructed from solid objects alone? ???

Back to the lab again, yo.  8)

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Re: Rosphere_TPU_01
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2007, 12:55:46 AM »
I am down to 100ohm base drive 555 to tip41a or b. Then 5ohm on the tip41a or b collector. Emittors straight to ground. Tip41s get warm. I have the tip41s in a radio shack terminal block for easy replacement. I just let the whole thing flop around. Slap it together and turn it on is my motto.
Pics on LOTR page 1 post 2. My specs. The GK4 pic shows the terminals. Same as most of the other posters TPUs are using.

Your magwire single layer single segment is just fine. You might  have to use 100ohm driver(tip41) collector resistor in line with your control coils. You want to overdrive the magwire with high speed leading edge and then the bemf will pull more current. The kicks use more current, naturally than the incoming drive to the coil. Slap that copper to expand the magfield as fast as possible. And try to keep the center of the tpu empty. No metal running across the middle. Gives the field free access with no interference. This has to do with the nonlinear medium. Suspicions abound. GK4 is not emtpy and I am working that issue also.
Have fun. This should get easier for you now. Glad you are making it to the next stage.

--giantkiller.

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Re: Rosphere_TPU_01
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2007, 02:14:10 AM »
GK, one more question, (two parts,) what frequency ranges should my top/bottom coils and middle coil be in, roughly?

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Re: Rosphere_TPU_01
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2007, 04:21:13 AM »
It is pretty wide like between 1hz and 500khz. Run one coil first with the range you have possible in your circuit. You'll see bands of allowance and disallowance, high and low impedance. Pick one area and then pulse the other frequency against it in another coil. You could do the math for this, but then you wouldn't see other effects. As long as you are not blowing up parts you're fine. The magfield has got to meet in the center for compression. A 6" TPU equals a 1 foot magfield. Is this neccessary? The stressed magfield gives us something else to work with. You could move a magnet or a compass or it plays the electric guitar all by itself. That is what we have achieved so far. But since your TPU is different and you come from a different mindset, that is the grounds for experimentation in your arena. You know the gratification when you see results of your work. It is a thrill. And in this phase of the TPU game when you are jumping in you are at an advantage, especially using magwire. You won't end up with a tpu graveyard. I am curious of the results of how you made your TPU. Have fun with your scope.
Just turn things on and play.

--giantkiller.

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Re: Rosphere_TPU_01
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2007, 01:44:24 PM »
It is pretty wide like between 1hz and 500khz.

Well then it looks like I am going to need a wider array of capacitors.  The Radio Shack near me has 95% of it's floor space dedicated to consumer electronics.  The parts area is in the back corner.  I found only a couple of the capacitors that you had recently listed for me to have on hand.

The straw that broke the camels back for me was that Tom Bearden video that I linked in another topic.  His diagrams and explanations about the four signals and the nonlinear medium gave me something conceptually on which to hang my hat.  I could now start building something.

Now I think I know what functions the top and bottom hoop assemblies accomplish; these are the pumping coils.  The middle hoop is the A3 signal coil.

I use old-school closed-loop electronics to, "tickle my coils under the chin."  Then I plan to tap the passing energy stream from the outer windings on the one end, through an incandescent bulb, and to the hoop(s) on the other end; an open-loop circuit.

I am already getting up to 3 volts AC as measured by my multimeter.

My hoops are overall narrower than most other replications here and my spacing is on the wide side.  So, if I get no more significant output than 3 volts AC screwing around with the closed-loop side of things, I will make Rosphere_TPU_02.  It will have, as near as I can make, hoops identical to its predecessor, but spaced much closer together.

I wonder about concentric hoops.  We could try to replace the outer windings with one outer collector ring and one inner ring.  Five hoops: outer and inner collect while the three coiled hoops in between supply A1, A2, and A3 signals.  I wonder...
« Last Edit: March 05, 2007, 11:32:26 PM by Rosphere »

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Re: Rosphere_TPU_01
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2007, 01:44:35 AM »
I finally gots me some more caps to feed to my 555 board.  Frequencies shall abound!  :)

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Re: Rosphere_TPU_01
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2007, 04:50:49 AM »
I finally gots me some more caps to feed to my 555 board.  Frequencies shall abound!  :)

Most frequencies.  I spent what was left of myself, after each workday this week, swapping out caps on my 555 board and mapping the frequency limits of each one using my scope.

I have four gaps within the one to five-thousand range.  However, there will be some play in the limits of each range as I left the duty cycle control unchanged while gathering this data.

I may try testing my TPU with the frequencies that I have now before I have the full range covered.
« Last Edit: March 10, 2007, 08:54:16 PM by Rosphere »

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Re: Rosphere_TPU_01
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2007, 05:22:39 AM »
Hmm, Thats going to keep you buisy for a bit,, Good Luck on your quest Sir! :)

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Re: Rosphere_TPU_01
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2007, 09:05:08 PM »
I found a, "signal overlap," for a lack of a better term, at 348~400 kHz.  As I was working my way up the frequency range, I saw these two damped signals at the output coming closer and closer together until, several caps later, I saw a double amplification and an almost pure sine wave output when I probe my final outer-wrap as a bifilar coil.  This is with my three hoop coils hooked in series and my hoops connected as three separate rings.

Also, I have an AM radio inches away and tuned off any station.  I hear a lot of strange things sweeping the frequencies.  Strangest of all is the sometimes dead silence.  It seems my coil is filtering out all of the noise.  I can turn the radio volume up to maximum and hear very little noise.  This is also the case at that amplitude doubling frequency.

See the three probe shots below:
Left probe is at the 555 alone, totally disconnected from the hoop coils. (400 kHz)
Center probe is at the 555 connected across the three series-connected hoop windings. (400 kHz)
Right probe is at the bifilar outer wrap. (348 kHz?)

What happened to the other 52 kHz?

(All shots at 2 VOLTS/DIV, 0.5 ?S.)
« Last Edit: March 11, 2007, 03:53:51 AM by Rosphere »

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Re: Rosphere_TPU_01
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2007, 02:13:05 AM »
HI  im from macedonia   i like to ask this magnet generator  of Steven Mark  is workig  or not .... I  thing  this is forking  in the simple  oscilations  whith  capacitator  and coil ......   the cap  is 1 time is charcing  and then  is rechargin in the coil  and in this time  hi generatin  in the secondary coil 10 time maybe more  than 10 time more  input  ...   this  is the i say is  ekstra   suplying  thang  input   
                             
                   ********** R=12V************
                   *        *                           *       *   
                   *        *** coilwhit stell  ***       *                                     
                   *                                              *
                   *                                              *
                   *                                              *
                   *                                              *
                   *         p cut        source             *
                   *      ______           12v               *
                   *****       ***** +     - ********
                               THIS  IS INDUCTIONS   WHIT  COTHING  THE SOURCE 
                               THEN   R =12V  IS STOP  WORKING    .  THIS  IN THIS TIME WHEN YOU CUT THE CIRCUIS .. THEN  IN THE COIL  INDUCTION   IS BIGER THEN 12V  IN THE SOURCE    AND AMPS IS BIGER THE 10  OR MORE TIMES THE INPUT   ....................... I THING  THIS IS   THE STORY OF THE  Steve Mark  generator    .....out  is beger than input  and then out is givet to input the lost  energy whit inductions  whit cuting  the source ...( flip flop).....  read this  in the   PHISIKS   IN THE SCOOL BOOKS  ..SORY FOR MY ENGLIS     I LIKE  TO POST  TO EVERBODY  HO IS LIKE THIS ENERGY  TO EXCANGY    TO MY   THINKING    IF YOU LIKE TO SAY  TO MY  POST A EMAIL   ..........cede74sk@yahoo.com......... 

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Re: Rosphere_TPU_01
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2007, 03:29:40 AM »
HI  im from macedonia   i like to ask this magnet generator  of Steven Mark  is workig  or not .... I  thing  this is forking  in the simple  oscilations  whith  capacitator  and coil ......   the cap  is 1 time is charcing  and then  is rechargin in the coil  and in this time  hi generatin  in the secondary coil 10 time maybe more  than 10 time more  input  ...   this  is the i say is  ekstra   suplying  thang  input   
                             
                   ********** R=12V************
                   *        *                           *       *   
                   *        *** coilwhit stell  ***       *                                     
                   *                                              *
                   *                                              *
                   *                                              *
                   *                                              *
                   *         p cut        source             *
                   *      ______           12v               *
                   *****       ***** +     - ********
                               THIS  IS INDUCTIONS   WHIT  COTHING  THE SOURCE 
                               THEN   R =12V  IS STOP  WORKING    .  THIS  IN THIS TIME WHEN YOU CUT THE CIRCUIS .. THEN  IN THE COIL  INDUCTION   IS BIGER THEN 12V  IN THE SOURCE    AND AMPS IS BIGER THE 10  OR MORE TIMES THE INPUT   ....................... I THING  THIS IS   THE STORY OF THE  Steve Mark  generator    .....out  is beger than input  and then out is givet to input the lost  energy whit inductions  whit cuting  the source ...( flip flop).....  read this  in the   PHISIKS   IN THE SCOOL BOOKS  ..SORY FOR MY ENGLIS     I LIKE  TO POST  TO EVERBODY  HO IS LIKE THIS ENERGY  TO EXCANGY    TO MY   THINKING    IF YOU LIKE TO SAY  TO MY  POST A EMAIL   ..........cede74sk@yahoo.com......... 

No.  I am using only 9V.  Maybe this is my problem.

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