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Offline IronHead

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Crazy Engine Idea
« on: February 24, 2007, 08:17:47 PM »
Attach a Sterling engine to the exhaust side of a conventional gas engine reclaiming some heat to do work.


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Re: Crazy Engine Idea
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2007, 04:45:32 AM »
How about an induction heater and a stirling motor?

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Re: Crazy Engine Idea
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2007, 06:46:07 AM »
ummm ok 

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Re: Crazy Engine Idea
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2007, 09:34:52 PM »
Attach a Sterling engine to the exhaust side of a conventional gas engine reclaiming some heat to do work.



Yes it's crazy enough for it to work.  :o  8)
How about multipole pistons in the gas engine with induction coils wound around the sleeve's? as each piston does it's stroke it excites the induction coils and produces a voltage that can be stored or used on demand as long as the engine is running.

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Re: Crazy Engine Idea
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2007, 09:51:20 PM »
or run a tesla mechanical oscillator off the engine vacuum -

steady ac at the output - very little power to keep running

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Re: Crazy Engine Idea
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2007, 01:09:52 AM »
Ok now this is getting crazy. A gas powered engine with induction sleeves, providing some heat for the sterling engine assisted by an induction heater, fitted with a tesla mechanical oscillator to the gas engine via intake manifold vacuum.

LOL! If that isn't OU I don't know what is.  ???

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Re: Crazy Engine Idea
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2007, 04:24:59 AM »
Damn thing will be a hovercraft when we are done with it...LOL!

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Re: Crazy Engine Idea
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2007, 01:27:04 PM »
Attach a Sterling engine to the exhaust side of a conventional gas engine reclaiming some heat to do work.



Yes it's crazy enough for it to work.  :o  8)
How about multipole pistons in the gas engine with induction coils wound around the sleeve's? as each piston does it's stroke it excites the induction coils and produces a voltage that can be stored or used on demand as long as the engine is running.


Actually those are both good pretty good ideas, the sterling and the piston coils if there was a way to keep the magnets,sleeves and coils cool at the same time. It would allow you to get rid of the alternator and run the aux. stuff off of the sterling.. would increase your gas mileage quite a bit if you cold get 20-30 hp out of the sterling.  ac pumps , air pump, steering pumps etc all rob gas mileage.. might actually bring the efficiency of an ic engine up to something worthwhile.

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Re: Crazy Engine Idea
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2007, 02:07:23 PM »
The technology which is coming forward to us, as you notice ;-)
asi about understanding it another way, because
We have to find out the causation or causer of these things not the result!!

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Re: Crazy Engine Idea
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Re: Crazy Engine Idea
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2007, 02:14:11 PM »
the idea is not that bad, the only problem is the cost of such device, a little sterling engine cost 250$ (metal). Just imagine one that "fit" to your car. lol will cost more then the car himseft! :)

but the big company like ford, chrysler, toyota would be able to make one at cheap price but why they don't do it, oil crap bush stuffs probably...

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Re: Crazy Engine Idea
« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2007, 04:09:20 AM »
Attach a Sterling engine to the exhaust side of a conventional gas engine reclaiming some heat to do work.



Yes it's crazy enough for it to work.  :o  8)
How about multipole pistons in the gas engine with induction coils wound around the sleeve's? as each piston does it's stroke it excites the induction coils and produces a voltage that can be stored or used on demand as long as the engine is running.


Actually those are both good pretty good ideas, the sterling and the piston coils if there was a way to keep the magnets,sleeves and coils cool at the same time. It would allow you to get rid of the alternator and run the aux. stuff off of the sterling.. would increase your gas mileage quite a bit if you cold get 20-30 hp out of the sterling.  ac pumps , air pump, steering pumps etc all rob gas mileage.. might actually bring the efficiency of an ic engine up to something worthwhile.

Actually the temp of multipole pistons wouldn't be a problem. the sleeves would have to be non conductive to meet "ideal" coil conditions, and at the moment they are commonly steel which is conductive. Yes mankind has been using the iron core wound type of induction coil, and the steel sleeve would transfer the fields as the multipole pistons do their stroke. It is less efficient with the iron core than without the iron core in a multipole configuration where the flux directly excites the induction coils (no back emf).  A non magnetic, non magnetic shielding, non conductive, and high heat material would have to be used for the sleeve. As for the temp of the induction coils themselfs. I'm just not sure what would be an acceptable tolerance. i do know that the temp of the coolant of a typical gas engine ranges between 185 and 250 deg f at normal operating tempature. However the sleeve will exceed that.


As with any newly founded technology or old technology in a new application, research and development must be done in adapting the technology. Yes it would effectively eliminate the alternator. however it could very well take the remaining burdon off of the gas/sterling engine as far as powering the air conditioning compressor, power steering, air pump, water pump etc. By placing it on the battery or battery bank.

 

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Re: Crazy Engine Idea
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Re: Crazy Engine Idea
« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2007, 05:24:22 AM »
i think this technologies (http://www.hi-z.com/websit07.htm) will be more simple to implement :)

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Re: Crazy Engine Idea
« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2007, 04:14:51 PM »
i think this technologies (http://www.hi-z.com/websit07.htm) will be more simple to implement :)

I agree! However we are still dealing with Gas and diesel engines that are costly in the fuel consumtion department. I see that there are other applications and i probably could think of a few more. However there is a limitation like solor panels they are useless at night. this crazy engine thing is nothing more than a fancy boat anchor when it's not running.

We need to think self renewing, or a combination of technologies that suit eacothers needs.

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Re: Crazy Engine Idea
« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2007, 09:08:58 PM »
Never said it was a gasoline engine   it could be hydrogen. It could be anything . The point here is reclaiming heat to do work.

OOPS my bad, just saw the link to the diesel truck thing
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Re: Crazy Engine Idea
« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2007, 10:20:06 AM »
Heat is the by-product of the transformation of energy. the more efficient the transformation, the less heat is generated by the transformation.

The point here is reclaiming heat to do work.


Yes, and it is a prime example of that. The sterling engine and the HZ-14 are prime examples of how to achieve it.

 

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