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gaby de wilde

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« on: February 18, 2007, 03:42:54 AM »
Hello, I've been looking over the many designs posted all over the web, and I did some playing with magnets. As a direct result(5 months) I've designed a magnetmotor by my theory. Hope you like it.
read more ☞(http://gabydewilde.googlepages.com/pmm-ppm.gif)
(http://gabydewilde.googlepages.com/ppm-theory.jpg)
The theory

In a1 the magnets attract another,

in a2 the magnets repel another.

In a3 the magnets both repel and attract resulting in a rotational pull.

The pull and the push are about the same size. Therefor the magnet at the left is almost infinitely more influenced by this interaction as the one at the right.
more about the theory ☞

I find it to be a very solid theory if I may say so myself. But, for peeps who think "it cant be" I've made this  ;D
it cant be ☞
Thanks for your review. I assume this concept has already been mentioned
but I didn't find it so far.


« Last Edit: February 18, 2007, 10:53:50 PM by gaby de wilde »

lancaIV

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« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2007, 03:55:20 AM »
I can not find the  Paul Monroe motor invention,
not worth enough to become listening ?  :D

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« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2007, 04:18:20 AM »
I can not find the  Paul Monroe motor invention,
not worth enough to become listening ?  :D


oh, yes haha the list is for decoration but I should probably add some more. Shame on me. :D

I do still have the blog. But I will get to it.

http://blog.360.yahoo.com/Factuurexpress?tag=magnetmotor&list=1



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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2007, 04:36:45 AM »
Hy "gaby",
nothing for "ungut",
we are all searcher,development tryer and "small Tech-Che"-s,
so there are many ways-but for the only-important target: freedom !

I can also listen Mr.Angus(motor,as reference: Kiniski) and the
"Lee"-magnet-ventil-motor,the Edenek Rys multiple-rotor-motor
and  at least the Gerd Bode shielding-motor !

The concept has to be physically approved and usefull,
the construction price affordable !

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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2007, 04:50:25 AM »
please look over the theory

http://gabydewilde.googlepages.com/magnetmotor-theory

then do the 2 min replication:

http://gabydewilde.googlepages.com/magnetmotor-it-cant-be

it's should be easy to make for some people here :)

http://gabydewilde.googlepages.com/magnetmotor-drawing

needs a few flexible axles.


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« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2007, 05:02:36 AM »
It seems similar the JL Naudin "push&pull" experiment !
To interact 360/2 degrees vertical forces with 360/2 degrees horizontal forces is ,indeed, also a configuration possibility !

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« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2007, 08:20:58 AM »
Paul Monroe
ungut

n Mr.Angus(motor,as reference: Kiniski)

"Lee"-magnet-ventil-motor,

the Edenek Rys multiple-rotor-motor

Gerd Bode shielding-motor

JL Naudin "push&pull" experiment

Do you have a link for their promotion maybe?

It's as much your job as it is mine. hehehe  ;D

I will look what I can find...

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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2007, 01:30:45 PM »
gaby,

Have you actually built one?

Rosphere

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« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2007, 09:05:07 PM »
Have you actually built one?

hello anonymous,

Is this your review of my invention? ;D

I found this from you.
To be convinced, the skeptical mind will need to rule out the slimmest possible use of any familiar energy sources.

At least be an open minded sceptic. And actually make a reasonable review of my innovation.

 
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But these university-planted voices in my head....  ???

lol, I'm sure you are right, ever-since I published this invention I've been haunted by zombie scientists. Specially in dreams. They say: "don't you know about the laws of thermodynamics... booo... woooo...." It's very scary. hahaha

But I have created and published the final theory. Isn't that bad enough? Who needs motors?

My logic is well developed.

For example:
I know that your opinion of the theory can only arise from reading the theory.

From this knowledge I derive that:
If you make your opinion from something else it can never be interesting, it's clearly the inferior judgement out of the 2 options you have.

For example2:
Even if you got to be 100% convinced I'm a flying hamster it changes nothing to the factuality of the actual theory. This kind of logic is only useful when there is no theory published.

As I did publish it you are fully capable of absorbing it's facts so you don't have to know how much engines I didn't build.

This is just to explain the rational thought of course.

here is how you reproduce the effect
http://gabydewilde.googlepages.com/magnetmotor-it-cant-be

have fun

Rosphere

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« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2007, 11:14:10 PM »
Have you actually built one?

hello anonymous,

Is this your review of my invention? ;D

I found this from you.
To be convinced, the skeptical mind will need to rule out the slimmest possible use of any familiar energy sources.

At least be an open minded sceptic. And actually make a reasonable review of my innovation.

 
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But these university-planted voices in my head....  ???

lol, I'm sure you are right, ever-since I published this invention I've been haunted by zombie scientists. Specially in dreams. They say: "don't you know about the laws of thermodynamics... booo... woooo...." It's very scary. hahaha

But I have created and published the final theory. Isn't that bad enough? Who needs motors?

My logic is well developed.

For example:
I know that your opinion of the theory can only arise from reading the theory.

From this knowledge I derive that:
If you make your opinion from something else it can never be interesting, it's clearly the inferior judgement out of the 2 options you have.

For example2:
Even if you got to be 100% convinced I'm a flying hamster it changes nothing to the factuality of the actual theory. This kind of logic is only useful when there is no theory published.

As I did publish it you are fully capable of absorbing it's facts so you don't have to know how much engines I didn't build.

This is just to explain the rational thought of course.

here is how you reproduce the effect
http://gabydewilde.googlepages.com/magnetmotor-it-cant-be

have fun

Well, I guess you told me.  I am sorry that I ever doubted your theory.  Have a nice day.  :)

Rosphere

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« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2007, 07:58:20 PM »
Four pictures and a video attached.  :)

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« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2007, 10:18:32 PM »
Hi gaby de wilde,

I believe this idea of yours is very innovative. I independently figured this out about a year ago and have made a few simple tests with the forces on a real (rough) wheel with real magnets. The results were interesting. When two poles faced with one, the resulting force was truly close to zero. I think it is not possible to accomplish an exact zero situation in reality, but close to zero... And unlike at a sticky spot the wheel passed it easily after a push. :)

In theory I am working on some more or less similar designs, and I think your idea is really a good way to try.

Bye,

gaby de wilde

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« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2007, 11:01:59 AM »
(http://gabydewilde.googlepages.com/magnetmotor3.gif)
Four pictures and a video attached.  :)

oh wow.......

lol, now I feel guilty for joking and for explaining the idea so badly.

In a closed loop 1 wheel with 2 magnets should be enough.(image at the left)

Also, a bit of mass (flywheel) could stabilise the speed some more.

Was the size of the air gap a result of experimentation or did it just end up that way?

see? The primary magnets facing the side of the secondary do far more work as the other 2. My mistake sry.

(http://gabydewilde.googlepages.com/evedance.jpg)

Good luck and thanks for restoring my faith in mankind.  :D

P.S.
This does explain why I was dreaming of LEGO. ha-ha

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« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2007, 02:33:41 AM »
Angus Motor: US4345174
Monroe: US3670189
Bode:US3895245
Rys:FR2112768
and last:
I please to excuse me,for lapsus,not Lee but Chiang:DE19605730

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p.s.: when we use a magnetic field viewer and see the neutral pole zone,
       what do we actually now about this sphere/area ?

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« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2007, 03:32:32 AM »

oh wow.......

lol, now I feel guilty for joking and for explaining the idea so badly.


My actual experience in playing with this device showed me that this "push-pull" magnetic behavior has an overall "feel" of producing invisible gear teeth.

With the connecting shaft disengaged and both wheels free to move, I...

1. rotated the single magnet on the vertical axis by hand and observed the large wheel with four magnets and

2. rotated the large wheel with four magnets by hand and observed the single magnet on the vertical axis.

In both cases the free wheel spun to match the rotation of the driven wheel, almost as if four invisible, sloppy gear teeth were in play.  The connecting shaft seems redundant.  The connecting shaft has more than four sloppy teeth on it's gears, and they are visible.  These connecting teeth just smooth out the response motion of the free wheel.

As can be seen in my video, it slows to a stop when spun in either direction.  How is your replication progressing?

You might want to use better quality parts than I did.

I almost forgot to mention.  I made sure that there was some back pressure between the wheels before I slid the connecting shaft gear into place.  This had the effect of moving the wheel several degrees out from top-dead-center, as can be seen in the photos.  It did not, however, continue running.

Perhaps if you used more magnets around the perimeter, each rotated into the face of the wheel by the same degree in which they are separated upon the face of the wheel making a full 360 for 360.  Perhaps 16 separated by 22.5 degrees?

Good luck with that.   :)