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Author Topic: The Crystal Ion. A real new Overunity device? Or another con artist gizmo?  (Read 9651 times)

NerzhDishual

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Hi clever & witty overunity dot com folks!

Sorry and flame on me if this annoncment is Not new.

What about this amazing glowing stuff that is claimed to run only on (thin) air?
You just supposely have to start it?

I am refering to a new Sterling D. Allan announcement :
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Crystal_Ion_Air_Turbine_Engine

You could also see :
http://www.airturbineengine.com/
http://www.airturbineengine.com/video.html (IMHO, worth to be watched)

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PS: I bet that Pese will flame me....

pese

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Re: The Crystal Ion. A real new Overunity device? Or another con artist gizmo?
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2007, 10:45:26 PM »
No i flame never other persons , sorry.

Thin maschine "sounds" itself very badly , hope this will work.
I know?s nothing from it before.
Fine Information . Tks
   Pese

Shure not Overunity !


Mazenauer possibly
Clem "shure"   
(lastone with low UpM because Oil insread Air flowing)


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Re: The Crystal Ion. A real new Overunity device? Or another con artist gizmo?
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2007, 10:59:16 PM »
PS: I bet that Pese will flame me....


LoL


anyways this doesn't seem to be Open Source technology...so forget it!  :-X


peace

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Re: The Crystal Ion. A real new Overunity device? Or another con artist gizmo?
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2007, 11:15:30 PM »

OK Pese!

You do not really 'flame' anybody. You are just 'critical'. Are You not?  ???
According to your fast reply, you must also be telepathic (or just on-line in time)! :)

Yes, FreeEnergy, according to the black velvet canvas,  this sounds not be "open source" tek.

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Re: The Crystal Ion. A real new Overunity device? Or another con artist gizmo?
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2007, 11:25:44 PM »
no, shure not critical against FE OU ZPE.
Very open to check all with some of my knowledge and also to learn more from it.

Critical i am only , if some electronic design are "open nonsense" , so that
not all members must try it ,
otherways , all is to try , because this give more exeriences than computer desings and research.
Pese

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Re: The Crystal Ion. A real new Overunity device? Or another con artist gizmo?
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2007, 11:50:41 PM »
Looks purrdie with all the multi-colored crystal lighting. Like something out of Star Wars or Battlestar Gallactica. 8)

All I see in the video is a mysteriously lit noise-maker. I don't see it powering anything, I don't see it doing anything at all. Just making a bunch of noise.

Obviously another technology hoarder destined to disappear. It is very sad that humans need to act this way. If this is the real deal then he needs to open-source it so the rest of mankind can develop it. Who ever that individual is, he is very foolish. What does he think he is accomplishing right now? He has shown nothing!

NOTHING!

He has accomplished NOTHING.

Take the motor, hook it up to a generator, and sell the unit as a power source. This is how you need to release this thing. Scheesh!!!!

I must be an idiot!!!!

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Re: The Crystal Ion. A real new Overunity device? Or another con artist gizmo?
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2007, 12:07:54 AM »
Hi ResinRat2,

I agree with you ... flashing lights and noise makers are fun -- remind me of a carnival.  However, in the end, and correct me if I'm wrong (I say with tongue-in-cheek) extractable power is the goal.

So, although we keep an open mind, why waste time with "flakes" when there are so many really good and serious researchers and inventors on this website and others?

I think we have some of the best supporters and good-willed researchers around and some of them know others of as-good or better technical / scientific / engineering capabilities.

In closing, allow me to paraphrase one of my heros, the late great Richard Feynmann, when he said, essentially: ... fore in the end, mother nature shall not be deceived.

Cheers,
Edo

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Re: The Crystal Ion. A real new Overunity device? Or another con artist gizmo?
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2007, 02:52:21 AM »


Hi (over?) fast minded blokes!

Thanks for your "feedbacks". My feeling about some of its is the following :

Do not get me wrong! I was not claiming that this kinda "stars-war" mysterious apparatus were of any use, were working as claimed or were merely running . I was retranscribing you an information that I thought were worth being done. "Caveat Lector". I was also thinking that this extraordinary claim were worth to be more investigated.

Of course some of you may think : hey Nerzh_Dishual shut up, stop posting your crap, you are wasting our time. Be reassured. My intend - should I be censored - is to continue...

One of you is also saying :"It is very sad that humans need to act this way."
OK, but Perhaps most of humans are not deliberately lying? They, of course, could be honestly mistaking.

Else : have you taken the time to listen to the interviews (more than 1 hour)?
http://www.airturbineengine.com/audio.html
As I can catch it as a non-native-English-speaking f. froggy guy it is sometimes about Banksters, Oil industry, Chinese people and conspiracy. I have not the feeling that these guys were purposely uttering gobbledegooks, nonsenses,lies or disinformations.

BTW (Off Topic) : May I be allowed to direct you to these very videos:
http://www.projectcamelot.net/interviews.html

IMHO, these vids show us that in this world, the area of possibilities seems to be infinite and, consequently, that modesty is (should be) a cardinal virtue.


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Re: The Crystal Ion. A real new Overunity device? Or another con artist gizmo?
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2007, 03:32:41 AM »
OK Nerzh,

I have not listened to the audios. Give me some time and I will.

By the way, what date were these radio programs broadcast?

I just wonder how long ago this was done.

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Re: The Crystal Ion. A real new Overunity device? Or another con artist gizmo?
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2007, 05:18:00 AM »
The lights are sure pretty.  Way over the top. 

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Re: The Crystal Ion. A real new Overunity device? Or another con artist gizmo?
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2007, 07:50:22 PM »
ION?s  can it  make noise ?
Nois like an old scrap motor that will died any moment  ???
But ... Its Overunity , and a must learn , so mutch to understand  ;)
GP

I will follow this tread........

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Re: The Crystal Ion. A real new Overunity device? Or another con artist gizmo?
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2007, 08:16:01 PM »
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« Last Edit: September 11, 2007, 03:06:00 AM by argona369 »

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Re: The Crystal Ion. A real new Overunity device? Or another con artist gizmo?
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2007, 01:29:18 AM »
Hi Nerzh,

OK, I listened to the hour interview with Lou Epton and I have to admit I was fascinated. The video you linked to is worthless, and my original opinion of it was correct; but the radio interview sounded legitimate. I apologize for my previous abruptness, but you have to admit that video showed nothing.

The story posted as November of last year when these meetings took place with government officials, I wonder if anyone has any updates as to what happened. It has been three months now. There should be front page news on this, or at least some type of local news. This is very interesting, if it is not a hoax.

I never heard of Lou Epton, so I don't know his reputation, but this may not be a hoax.

I would say to delete that stupid video, and just leave the interview link. It tells more about the engine. Leave the link to the newspaper story. Then see if anyone can find out anything else. This would beat everything that is being done here.

I am still very skeptical though. I won't believe it completely until a working prototype is displayed to the public.

In any case, thank you again Nerzh for bringing this to everyone's attention as a curiosity at least for now. It may actually be true. Which would be a good thing for the United States, and eventually for all mankind.

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Re: The Crystal Ion. A real new Overunity device? Or another con artist gizmo?
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2007, 01:33:50 AM »
I believe the grinding noises heard  is the starter motor kicking in and out.
Fascinating engine ,but I would like to see more before I form an opinion.

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Re: The Crystal Ion. A real new Overunity device? Or another con artist gizmo?
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2007, 01:55:52 AM »
Hmmm , Very interesting.
I have been listening an analyzing the sound this thing makes . Cant get it out of my head.

The idea here is like taking a pneumatic drill and turning a compressor with the outlet of the compressor coupled back to the drill to turn the compressor. Well that could not work any more that an electric motor coupled to and electric generator  to power the motor that drives it .
Or could it ?   http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1988.0.html