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Title: Ed Gray Motor bitte auf deutsch!
Post by: pulmoll on April 30, 2005, 05:42:18 PM
Hat mal jemand den Motor von Ed Gray nachgebaut? Ich habe hier einen Plan von www.fuelless.com (fuelless engine) kopiert und alle n?tigen Bauteile schon parat liegen. Kondensatoren, Kupferlackdraht, Leistungsdioden etc..... Ich habe auch schon mehrere Spulen 0,2mm gewickelt aber irgendwie scheint das Ganze nicht so einfach zu sein. Daher habe ich mir gedacht man kauft das Video ?ber den Motor (gibts ebenfalls auf www.fuelless.com). Kostet 30$! Will jemand zusammenlegen? Bzw. wie kann ich denen das Geld schicken?


W?rde mich echt freuen wenn sich hier jemand aus Deutschland meldet!


MFG
Title: Re: Ed Gray Motor bitte auf deutsch!
Post by: hartiberlin on April 30, 2005, 06:25:00 PM
So does anybody have rebuild the Edwin Gray device from www.fuelless.com
and can answer ?
I can translate that for Pulmoll into German language.
Thanks.

Regards, Stefan.
P.S: Please also post links to other Edwin Gray rebuild devices.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Ed Gray Motor bitte auf deutsch!
Post by: dracozny on May 01, 2005, 11:46:53 PM
I typically do not trust these sites as they make claims and promisses with little evidence.
Title: Re: Ed Gray Motor bitte auf deutsch!
Post by: pulmoll on May 02, 2005, 12:36:11 AM
For those who do not want to pay for these plans, just type "fuelless" in emule.... U will find it if u really want.

The plans are very good!
Title: Re: Ed Gray Motor bitte auf deutsch!
Post by: Vorg on May 03, 2005, 02:09:11 AM
So how many went all over the site trying to figure out where to type fuelless? ::)
Title: Re: Ed Gray Motor bitte auf deutsch!
Post by: hartiberlin on May 03, 2005, 06:00:15 AM
Vorg, Pullmoll meant Emule the Peer2Peer networking program, where you
can find all sorts of files.
These plans are not over here.

Regards, Stefan.
Title: Re: Ed Gray Motor bitte auf deutsch!
Post by: pulmoll on May 03, 2005, 10:25:35 AM
Herr Hartmann,
soll ich Ihnen die Pl?ne mal zukommen lassen? Ich werde diese Woche noch einige einfache Versuche durchf?hren... ich melde mich dann...



mfg


Title: Re: Ed Gray Motor bitte auf deutsch!
Post by: pulmoll on May 03, 2005, 03:56:25 PM
Here are the links for the fuelless-engine. But you must have emule or edonkey to download these plans....


ed2k://|file|(Ebook%20-%20Free%20Energy)%20Fuelless%20Engine%2050-350hp.pdf|1770614|3F3E49A8EE143ED826B3A9866CDC1AC3|/ (http://ed2k://|file|(Ebook%20-%20Free%20Energy)%20Fuelless%20Engine%2050-350hp.pdf|1770614|3F3E49A8EE143ED826B3A9866CDC1AC3|/)

ed2k://|file|Fuelless%20Engine%201-50Hp.pdf|1481784|DAA58653E2F8BFECC4F162EBDEE7432B|/ (http://ed2k://|file|Fuelless%20Engine%201-50Hp.pdf|1481784|DAA58653E2F8BFECC4F162EBDEE7432B|/)

ed2k://|file|Fuelless%20Engine%2050-350Hp.pdf|2276798|9139D26715C11E0BC12D96FC972758E3|/ (http://ed2k://|file|Fuelless%20Engine%2050-350Hp.pdf|2276798|9139D26715C11E0BC12D96FC972758E3|/)


I think the cirquit used in this engine ist the key for Dingels and Meyers WATERCAR!!!! And Teslas FUELLESS-CAR! Its aways the same principe!
Title: Re: Ed Gray Motor bitte auf deutsch!
Post by: pulmoll on May 03, 2005, 03:58:06 PM
The Links above doesn't work... i try it again! I hope it will work now!

ed2k://|file|(Ebook%20-%20Free%20Energy)%20Fuelless%20Engine%2050-350hp.pdf|1770614|3F3E49A8EE143ED826B3A9866CDC1AC3|/

ed2k://|file|Fuelless%20Engine%201-50Hp.pdf|1481784|DAA58653E2F8BFECC4F162EBDEE7432B|/

ed2k://|file|Fuelless%20Engine%2050-350Hp.pdf|2276798|9139D26715C11E0BC12D96FC972758E3|/
Title: Re: Ed Gray Motor bitte auf deutsch!
Post by: Vorg on May 04, 2005, 02:08:05 AM
I thoughht he was saying there was some secret place on that web site listed at the top of the thread to enter the code :).
Title: Re: Ed Gray Motor bitte auf deutsch!
Post by: Thaelin on May 07, 2005, 04:12:44 PM
   I have the mule and found the file. I'm not really sure this eds design at all. Looks like
a high voltage pulse motor to me. Not anything like eds that had magnets in the armature.
It may be one of the early designs that I am not familiar with tho. It does repeat the instructions
over two different times. Has merit as far as I can tell to complete a working unit. Now if I just
had a machine shop to make the things in.............

sugra
Title: Re: Ed Gray Motor bitte auf deutsch!
Post by: hartiberlin on May 07, 2005, 06:18:33 PM
Yes, looks to me also more likea high voltage Newman motor with all the
commutators on the shaft...
Sugra, does he also use permanent magnets inside the rotor ?
Thanks.

Regards, Stefan.
P.S. He meant it can be downloaded from the Emule Peer2Peer Network.
You need Emule file sharing program to do this.
Title: Re: Ed Gray Motor bitte auf deutsch!
Post by: Thaelin on May 09, 2005, 10:41:31 AM
The high voltage motor uses no magnets. There are diagrams at the end of eds motor but thats about
all. There is another small 1hp motor shown that uses a pm armature but is not related to the big motor
at all. From the look, I would say it is showing 3 different motors all together. There is enough info to
build the large hv one and the small 1hp but not much more. IMO... not worth the bucks with all that is
available on the net today. You just have to visit many sites to put it all together. 

I think with solid state switching supplies and a good uninterupted month on the test bench, Eds motor
could be built or at least close to it. I sorely lack a place to machine anything my self so would have to
hire it done.

Sugra
Title: Re: Ed Gray Motor bitte auf deutsch!
Post by: iald on June 21, 2005, 03:52:50 PM
Hi Guy's

Before you decide to buy the Fuelless.com plans. Try to contact Dan adsitt due to i found from his web " The last page of the Internet  " or MULLER Web,  Dan was asking refund for what he has paid to Fuelless.com for the plans which are not working as per claims. Looks like they will file a case against this company. Actually i am trying to find a credible design of motor which i can replicate as for my hobby. Pls. check if the ismael aviso motor running at website ismaelaviso.com maybe we can get something from his design that looks EV Gray version.

iald
Title: Re: Ed Gray Motor bitte auf deutsch!
Post by: pese on May 03, 2006, 04:44:21 PM
solche schwierigkeiten
ob sich baupl?ne "zu kaufen"
ist ma nicher entledigt durch einfache google abfrage 

will not work    (zeigt auch wenn es geht

oder
reputation.

ein beispiel hierzu:

http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q=fuelless.com+ed+gray+will+not+work&btnG=Google-Suche&meta=
Title: Re: Ed Gray Motor bitte auf deutsch!
Post by: valveman on May 12, 2006, 08:25:57 PM
I have reviewed the plans for the fuelless motor and have some reservations.
They are using 36 gauge copper enmalled wire.  The voltage is about 1000V for a duration of approx a usec or so.
Imagine expelling all that energy into a tiny piece of wire.  You have the voltage go nearly to 0V while the
current is enormous.  How then can a 36 guage wire withstand the high current?
If you say it's only a duration of a usec and so the wire does not have enough time to get hot then I say think about lightning.
It's duration is only a usec but look at the devistating effects.  Yes lighting has a potential of millions of volts but consider the scale.

I would suspect as soon as all that energyfrom the discharging capacitors finds a path to ground, the wire will vaporize.

Anyone care to comment?

Valveman
Title: Re: Ed Gray Motor bitte auf deutsch!
Post by: fcpeace17 on October 17, 2006, 02:09:17 PM
Correct me if im wrong but do they not vaporize because what is running through them are not electrons, it is cold electricity?