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innovation_station

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Re: the most efficient machine ever built
« Reply #135 on: May 28, 2007, 06:24:14 AM »
hello moab

this is whats next

i built this  started it yesterday after the vid shoots finished it today this is built with a router table and router of course and a cordless drill and 3 diffrent drill bits starting coils tomorrow sometime here the pics the mags you see in the pictures are 1"x .25" n38 neos the whole generator rotor weighs bout 4 lbs it is a 9" circle of 1" plexiglass with 16 magnets in it it is keyed to a 7/8" shaft cost me 15 bucks at tsc someone gave the magnets and i had the plexi  so cost 4 me was low also i used my turbine as a lathe at high speed with some sand paper to balance and buff the wheel it should spinn fairly smoth and not wobble too much the magnets are verry strong and it is super high speed the turbine so lots of copper if any one has any good ideas for coils please post them as im not sure what is the best way yet but i have somthing in mind that i will be trying to build tommorow also we have a roll of 24 gage copper wire solid and i will have 7 coils in total but 14 indivual coils wound in pairs but that is for tommorow im just trying this generator out this is not the 1 i designed for it orignaly

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innovation_station

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Re: the most efficient machine ever built
« Reply #136 on: May 28, 2007, 06:47:39 AM »
here is the front page of my video once i get it in it but i thought i would post it here first you tube is next then google video

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innovation_station

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Re: the most efficient machine ever built
« Reply #137 on: May 30, 2007, 03:39:23 PM »
here is the end page to my vid i have decided with the generator im working on for muy turbine right now will be the muller generator i will try that style first it will work it will be overunity and at  verry high speed should produce many more times out than in


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Re: the most efficient machine ever built
« Reply #138 on: June 01, 2007, 12:18:50 AM »
Hi ISTEAM,
well built !
I just had a look at your videos.

In this moment it is more or less a flywheel which is powered by your water
pressure stream.

Will be interesting to see, if you hook up the generator how much
power  it will put out.

What again do you think the overunity effect will come from ?
Do you think you will need less water pressure power to drive this
than you can generate electrical power with the generator ?

How much power did your water pressure unit needed when you filmed this video ?

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

innovation_station

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Re: the most efficient machine ever built
« Reply #139 on: June 01, 2007, 02:15:04 AM »
WOW!!!!!!!


i made my first electricty off of my turbine and wow!!!!!!!

i wound a verry simple coil and no steel core in fact ro core at all!!!!!!!!


and after less than 1 min input i had over 18v ac on my 1 coil i plan on building 30 coils for the pictured disc so far all testing shows than i can produce a VERRY HUGE AMOUNT OF ELECTRICTY!!!!!!


WHEN ALL WIRED UP IT SEAMS AS THOUGH I COULD MAKE OVER 600V


i was told that those magnets are capable of generating 2 amps each and there 64 magnets in my disc

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Re: the most efficient machine ever built
« Reply #140 on: June 01, 2007, 12:37:04 PM »
To reiterate what Stephan already asked. How much electrical power does your water pressure unit need? Also, where do you think the "extra" power is coming from?

Remember, power is not voltage. 600volts at a few microamps is very little power.

innovation_station

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Re: the most efficient machine ever built
« Reply #141 on: June 04, 2007, 01:37:05 PM »
the pressure washer you see in the video uses 110v ac @ 15 amps to operate it is pushing 1.6 gallons/min @ 1500 psi

where will the extra power come from

who knows

i think that i  will increase in power from the laque of friction from  the turbine remember that speed is power all by its self so i think that the power from the pressurized water hitting an almost frictionless flywheel converts the energy from pressure to spinn verry efficiently also once somthing is set in motion it tends to stay in motion or can be kept in motion with little input once i wind it up for 1 min it reaches its speed then take input away for 1.5 min then apply input agin for 30 sec and repeate im sure it will use less power to mantain its speed

all is variable i can add more weight to the turbine for more mechanical torque i can add less pressure for lower input power i can add more generators until i find the balance point where all works at a safe speed and desired output power is achieved 

i can change many things to make it work better

also remember i used 9$ bearings so what will happin if i use 1000$ berings
higher speed lower input  (less friction)

now that is about the turbine and about the generator there many overunity generators out there i have chose the muller but i have made changes to it i used 16 groups of 4 magnets  1" put them in a 9" disc i then designed and built my coils i used 200 turns of 22 gage solid copper wire and i built 15 coils for each side of the disc 30 in total each coil will make 20 + volts after 1 min of in put i have drawen some nice drawings of this generator it is verry simple and cheep to build i used no special tools to build it i will be poasting all drawings and finished pictures soon it is based on the muller generator but with my coils and layout my orignal goal was to build 2 generators 1 for each side but the costs of the magnets is slowing me down never the less i have almost finished the generator and it will do for testing pporpouses should make close to 600 volts at i dont know how many amps but i will garentee it will be amps not micro amps

pictures verry soon and many of them

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innovation_station

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Re: the most efficient machine ever built
« Reply #142 on: June 04, 2007, 02:08:42 PM »
here are the drawings i have been working on it is almost finished

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Re: the most efficient machine ever built
« Reply #143 on: June 04, 2007, 02:13:45 PM »
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there many overunity generators out there

I see..... Well, why bother with all the complication, mess and inefficiency of using water turbines then? just get any fairly high efficiency motor and connect directly to the "overunity generator"...........

innovation_station

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Re: the most efficient machine ever built
« Reply #144 on: June 04, 2007, 02:17:01 PM »
yes acp im sure u could but i invented my turbine for highspeed that  any efficient electric motor could never compeate with IT WILL SPINN THE FASTEST ON EARTH!!!!!

MY TURBINE

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if for some reason you dont beleave me then build it it is OPENSOURCE  you know

you could build a 20 lb turbine for less than 75 bucks test for yourself i am

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Re: the most efficient machine ever built
« Reply #145 on: June 04, 2007, 02:29:23 PM »
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yes acp im sure u could but i invented my turbine for highspeed that  any efficient electric motor could never compeate with IT WILL SPINN THE FASTEST ON EARTH!!!!!

you are forgetting that you need electric motors to create the high pressure water needed for your turbine.

I think you misunderstand me, I think your turbine is probably fairly inefficient and not because of lack of expensive bearings.

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remember that speed is power all by its self

No, power is   strength * speed.

innovation_station

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Re: the most efficient machine ever built
« Reply #146 on: June 04, 2007, 02:45:58 PM »
i do need electric motors now but with more reserch i can get away from electric motors i have other ideas many many  on how i could power it

acp

so u dont like water  here is a challange 4 u pick another fuel do not think for 1 second that this turbine will only run on a liquid under pressure

lol!!

im sure i can make this run on many sources of engery

also frictionless bearings are essencial to overunity when speed is your goal


btw speed is power the faster u spinn somthing the more power you have


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Re: the most efficient machine ever built
« Reply #147 on: June 04, 2007, 02:53:20 PM »
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btw speed is power the faster u spinn somthing the more power you have

you are wrong,  look here :   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torque

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Re: the most efficient machine ever built
« Reply #148 on: June 04, 2007, 03:35:25 PM »
Hi IST,
you are using 1650 Watts of  input power to spin a flywheel.

Now if you put a dragging generator to your flywheel which will
generate 2000 Watts of electrical output power you will need to put
much more input power into the flywheel all the time..

Probably you will need then at least a 3000 Watts of input power
for a bigger water stream
pump !

Where should the overunity come from ?
From the water hitting your flywheel blades ?

Do you think you will have something simular like in a Griggs hydrosonic pump ?
Sonofusion or something like this ?


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Re: the most efficient machine ever built
« Reply #149 on: June 04, 2007, 03:40:14 PM »
Actually, Nasa have developed flywheel storage systems as possible replacements to batteries. They use magnetic bearings, and run in a vacuum. The report 50000 rpm. the limiting factor seems to be the tensile strength of the flywheels, which if exceeded, blow up, sending shrapnel flying like bullets. consequently they are encased in heavy steel cylinders and buried underground. They also have an efficiency rating of only 90%.