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Author Topic: Very simple magnetmotor  (Read 15969 times)

m668004

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Very simple magnetmotor
« on: April 28, 2005, 07:15:47 PM »
EDIT: 1 picture which includes all 3 drawings

Hello to all,

this is my first post in this forum. in the past I found a russian site, which contains a very simple magnetmotordesign. Unfortunatually I cant remember the sites name and I dont speak Russian. At that time I only saved the pictures, but its easy to understand. I can only attach 1 picture, so I packed the 3 pictures in a gif-animation, so they appear one after another.

What do you think about it?

Have a nice day!

M.
« Last Edit: April 29, 2005, 04:09:22 PM by m668004 »

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Very simple magnetmotor
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Offline Kysmett

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Re: Very simple magnetmotor
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2005, 11:43:37 PM »
Have you attempted any replication?

Cisco

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Re: Very simple magnetmotor
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2005, 05:39:58 AM »
How do you get the gif-animation to pause?

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Re: Very simple magnetmotor
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2005, 05:39:58 AM »
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Offline magpower

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Re: Very simple magnetmotor
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2005, 02:07:01 PM »
Hi
Who can read what they are saying?

Thks

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m668004

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Re: Very simple magnetmotor
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2005, 03:42:13 PM »
@Kysmett

No, but I will do it, because its so simple.

@Cisco

I made the gif-animation in Picture Publisher and in the menu I choose the time how long a picture appears.

@magpower

I dont know what they are saying, but at the bottom there is a ringmagnet as stator and above thera are 2 diskmagnets as rotor. The diskmagnets want to move (rotate around their own axles) with their southpoles to the northpole of the bottom ringmagnet, but they cant, because they are fixed on the rotor, so the rotor have to rotate - at least this is the idea behind it. To clarify the priniple, I attached a selfmade simple picture, only with the magnets.

Greetings

M.
« Last Edit: April 29, 2005, 03:59:51 PM by m668004 »

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Re: Very simple magnetmotor
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2005, 03:56:23 PM »
Hi,
you can simply attach one picture to every reply,
so please reattach the single pics to a reply over here please.

How are the rotor magnets magnetized ?
This is not clear to me...

Thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Very simple magnetmotor
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2005, 07:43:52 PM »
The device assumes facts not in evidence.....the field interactions as displayed are based on conjecture.? In a manner somewhat similar to the way that 'gears' bind when improperly coupled, so too this arrangement, I am certain, will not work.

In a small way, It is akin to the overbalancing assumption being made here:

(http://www.todayinsci.com/Books/MechApp/chap23/934-RollingRing.jpg)


Working with magnetic fields for the purposes of extracting mechanical rotational energies, requires a careful consideration of tangential forces and axial displacement.


Elsewise,? one can easily get lost in a quagmire of subtleties.


Peace,

TS
« Last Edit: April 29, 2005, 08:39:24 PM by TechStuf »

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Offline pinobot

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Re: Very simple magnetmotor
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2005, 10:30:36 PM »
The machine won't work, it's static (or whats the english term?).
In magnetmotor.gif the machine turns the wrong way, attraction is stronger than repulsion.

m668004

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Re: Very simple magnetmotor
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2005, 10:44:54 PM »
@pinobot

No, its not the wrong way. I thought that too, but its correct.

M.

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Re: Very simple magnetmotor
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2005, 11:16:28 PM »
I surmise that this device may have culminated from research on HJ's work.....a clever iteration that seeks to avoid the 'pitfalls' of HJ's rotary patent.? Instead, seeking to provide a smooth, uninterrupted orbital track.

If I didn't know better,? I would have to conclude that HJ's, this, and several other published devices were introduced simply to facilitate the work of 'others'......saying it, without actually saying it, perhaps.

Many forces at work here.


TS
« Last Edit: April 29, 2005, 11:56:43 PM by TechStuf »

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Re: Very simple magnetmotor
« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2005, 03:50:34 AM »
This is simple enough to test even in the middle of my home moving.  I will look for parts tomorrow, hopefully between the moving and the testing I will be free to post results on Sunday, if not on Monday.  I have a feeling that I am not accounting for something, but this is one of those things that I could work for a week to find the loophole, or spend a half hour building it and come to the same conclusion.  If it doesn't work, then I'll spend the week thinking about why, and if it does then whoopee I have a new house and a new working concept (which I will probably have to spend more than a week making useful).  Either way the next week is shot.   ;D

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Re: Very simple magnetmotor
« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2005, 04:22:09 AM »
Very intriguing, this little guy.? For those seeking replication.....discard the 'field line' graphic and go by feel using your own scale.??There's an intriguing field coupling sweet spot in there......sphere magnets may present a more advantageous field geometry for use as 'satellite' magnets.

Also, using a larger, ceramic speaker ring magnet and smaller neos may be a good starting point and it appears given the scale shown in the graphic that this may be what was used in the Russian model.

It also appears that a variable central axis may be intentional.? Interesting at least.? Much to read between the 'lines'.....as usual.

Peace,

TS

« Last Edit: April 30, 2005, 08:54:09 AM by TechStuf »

m668004

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Re: Very simple magnetmotor
« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2005, 07:23:50 PM »
I now have the magnets (all NdFeB): one 50 x 10 mm diskmagnet as stator and two 23 x 2 mm diskmagnets as rotor. They are very strong and if you hold one of the rotormagnets with your hands at the right place near the big statormagnet, you can feel a very strong force in one direction. When it is build, I will tell you the results.

M.

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Re: Very simple magnetmotor
« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2005, 09:09:50 PM »
M

I had a shot at this using speaker 3" dia and 3/8" dia. I could get 180 turn but seemed a sticky spot here. and always at same spot. Haven't given up and there might be more to it. What link do you find this. Really it should work.


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Re: Very simple magnetmotor
« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2005, 12:18:32 AM »
May the 'force' be with you.....or should I say:  Forces......


TS

 

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