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Re: Lifters are worthless
« Reply #60 on: October 30, 2008, 02:55:30 PM »
Thanks for the link steve.  Very detailed and informative, but I still couldnt find any pictures of the motor.  Did you try his motor? 

After Jean-Louis did his poynting flow motor, he then tried a poynting flow thruster:
 http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/pft12poc.htm
which is what I tested and documented on the page I pointed out. Since this started out as a Lifter topic I figured it was a logical thing to point out.
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Re: Lifters are worthless
« Reply #61 on: March 31, 2011, 03:17:48 PM »
Tuesday morning I bought an ionic air fresherner for $14.95.You plug it into the cigerrette lighter of your car or truck.It creates ozone off of a 12 volt battery to eliminate odors.I say this is a lifter because it creates an ionic breeze not downward but outward.Pushing ions out into the surrounding air.So this device was bought at Road Ranger in the state of mo.(a big truck stop).If the ionic breeze were redesigned to push downward instead of outward this thing would be a lifter.Small enough  already to fit in your pocket ready to be plugged into your car or truck.True it cant lift a car but if a lifter can be made small enough to put in my pocket then a power source cant be far behind.triffid

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« Reply #62 on: April 01, 2011, 12:20:31 AM »
I realized today sometime that one could tape this ionic odor eliminator in such a way that ionic thrust could be obtained in one direction.Consider that the ionic breeze from this device is constant and uniform as it is pushed into the surrounding air.If one were to tape off half of the device.Then one might obtain ionic thrust in one direction.triffid

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Re: Lifters are worthless
« Reply #62 on: April 01, 2011, 12:20:31 AM »
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Re: Lifters are worthless
« Reply #63 on: April 01, 2011, 08:20:56 PM »
If someone here would build a 65 lb lifter with 160lbs of thrust this man could fly it.In sept of 2008 he flew a jet wing he had built himself across the english channel(22 miles).  http://www.jet-man.com/?page_id=24
 YVES ROSSY is his name.     triffid

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Re: Lifters are worthless
« Reply #64 on: April 01, 2011, 08:32:04 PM »
His wing weighed 65lb when empty of fuel and developed 160 lbs of thrust total. triffid

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Re: Lifters are worthless
« Reply #65 on: April 14, 2011, 01:11:22 AM »
Some results on lifters.  http://jnaudin.free.fr/lifters/maximus2/index.htm   triffid

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« Reply #66 on: April 14, 2011, 01:31:30 AM »
If the lifter cells are stacked they can lift more.So a 65lb lifter weighs 65lbx454gm/lb equal 29510 grams.So 160lbs of thrust is 160x454 equals 72,640 grams.So if a 190g 4 stack lifter can lift a 60g payload.then maybe a 65 lb lifter  29510/190 equals 155.3 would have 4x 155.3 stacks equals 621.3 stacks.So a 65 lb lifter would lift 20.5 lbs payload.Maybe a power source?It would not lift a man but it could lift its own power source?
So a 65lb lifter made with 622 stacked lifter cells could lift 20.5 lbs of payload????triffid

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« Reply #67 on: April 14, 2011, 01:38:05 AM »
so the power needed would be 300 watts times 155.3 equals 46,590 watts.triffid

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« Reply #68 on: April 14, 2011, 01:49:28 AM »
If the stacked cells could be made much smaller like the electronics of the last 50 years and then power beamed to the craft in the form of microwaves or lasers then lifters might become a reality. People might have a
another way to travel in the air or space.triffid

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« Reply #70 on: April 20, 2011, 02:20:08 PM »
If lifters could be made right like smaller.We might be on our way to flying cars.?? triffid

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« Reply #71 on: January 26, 2012, 10:41:26 AM »
Im making some crystal rock batteries.That can fit into a straw.Making we can combine that power source with the worlds smallest voltage multiplier to make these lifers light enough to fly on their own?triffid

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Re: Lifters are worthless
« Reply #72 on: January 26, 2012, 11:55:30 PM »
7.2 volts to 500,000 volts.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HM4oiJNGJs&feature=related  triffid

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« Reply #74 on: January 27, 2012, 11:06:40 PM »
Thanks for replying microcontroller,I have a friend who built one and demonstated it to me.I know that our airplanes we take for granted were once no more than bits of wood and glue( as models).It distressed me that onone else but me had been in this thread for so long.I bought myself an 8 million volt stun gun.Its on its way to me now.triffid

 

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