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Hey Dave the last 14 posts seem to be more of you answering yourself with various bedini screenshots. Not sure what "big point" you're trying to make here. Esp in relation to my original post.

Perhaps as you mentioned, Start your own tread with more appropriate topic? Maybe name it something like "A deep dive into Bedini motor waveforms. Just a suggestion.

My circuit diagram that I share here is nothing complex, in the case that it will bunk or debunk these devices. That's not my job or point to make such a broad determination. How ever I enjoy very much providing alternative circuit hock ups. Maybe not a project for you. From all the good feedback I been getting from this circuit diagram. I can tell it's helping. This was just to share a circuit diagram.

As far as digging deep into the inner workings of Bedini devices i'm sure you are aware of the ample information forum posts etc that delve into the very core of it all. Some you have screenshotted and re-posted. Agreed it's a good read. just perhaps a tad off specific topic of this post.

My circuit tries to focus on trying to recycle more of the power back into the circuit. And not so much a debate post on Bedini waveforms per say. I could start a new subject post for that if I wanted. As that can be important for the bigger picture.  If your serious at building full-scale.

On the other hand if you want to make your small cute ebay toy Bedini motor more efficient without a full rebuild, my schematic offers a partial solution.


Take care.

Hi Joel, yeah sorry for taking over your thread I do apologize. My initial few posts were about CEMF and it turned out to be an information dump.

The point of my posts, which it appears most are missing is the Bedini SG is a pulse motor that generates while it runs, however it does have the typical drag if you add an auxiliary generating coil. The remedy to overcome the typical drag of the generator coils (that everyone is familiar with) is to use one of two near dragless generator options posted above, the first being the three coil system and the second is to just simply turning the magnets  90* and using them on their sides. This  is the secret of the free energy generation that John Bedini never told you about, he just showed you and put it in your face, I am talking about the ferris wheel, and not many understood, including me at the time.

I believe the two outside coils are sending the induced waveforms to the center coil, to put voltage and current in phase. I posted two responses from CHAT GPT above on how a motor performs using the three coil system or using the magnets on their sides. Erfinder says it well in his posts above.

It took me years to wrap my head around this concept, and much time on the bench familiarizing myself with how turning the magnets on their sides was beneficial to a motor and or a generator.

If anyone tries it they will see. Do I have all the answers no I don’t. Do I have the start of the path forward to a self powering machine, I believe I do. Again I want to stress John made the rotored SG to be an all in one machine, based off of of his 1984 book. They are the same thing you just need to add the low drag generator section to complete the machine.

I would like to transfer all I posted on your thread over to a dedicated thread, I asked admin if they could do it but I did not receive a response yet.

In closing please note: This is a gift I am sharing, it was shared with me in part and now I am giving it freely to anyone who wants it. All anyone has to do is implement it and see for themselves.

Dave Wing

This is another short from Energy From The Vacuum 6 where John draws out his asymmetrical waveform for a separate generator and then jumps right into the description of the motor waveform, which is the typical SG waveform we are all familiar with.

https://youtube.com/shorts/wLVLHQhMMgo?si=18K_sYdGCSavs4Hs

As I posted earlier in this thread here is the asymmetrical waveform (magnet on its side) vs two North Pole waveforms on a 16” rotor consisting of 3 magnets (two north pole magnets and one on it’s side) 120 degrees apart. I will also add that the scope is hooked up across the coil. The magnet on its side produces the middle waveform.

The area of positive and negative half-waves still remains the same, right? And area is electrical power. I've done this before too, and I was surprised.

The area might be the same but the magnitude is far greater. Yes it was very surprising to me and it is completely backwards to the way we normally run our power and generation equipment.

Here are two images, the bottom waveform is from an 8 pole rotor it has 8 magnets (generic 1-7/8 x 1 x 1/2 ceramic magnets) all of them are placed on their sides however one of them is reversed in direction to produce a positive waveform. The magnet spacing on the rotor is about 2” apart and the coil is the same 10 lbs coil with an iron core. The scope is hooked up across the coil to measure the waveform and the wheel is spun by hand. You will also notice the waveform is clipped, as it is charging the primary battery.

 Notice in the bottom image, with the reversed magnet and looking specifically before and after the positive peak there is induced voltage cancellation at the zero crossing, there is no more negative value when we only have a positive peak on this magnet and no reversal until the next magnet comes around which is separated by a 2” air gap on the rotor.

The top image is displaying alternating magnets placed once again on their sides with a magnet spacing on the rotor of about 2” apart. Again there is full cancellation at the zero crossing and no negative values before or after the positive peaks. The same goes for the negative peaked waveform it again has full cancellation of any positive values.

Looking at the Bedini SG circuit and  comparing what we see with the north pole (as shown above) we can now see we have isolated and removed 1/2 of the waveform and placed it 2” away on the rotor which is the next magnet that passes the core.

Now you can see we can engineer what we want, perhaps you want 2 positive pulses to one negative or maybe the other way around maybe you want 20 negative pulses to one positive. What ever you want it can be done.

I found the most efficient way to run my pulse motor is between the gaps or spacing of the magnets, at the zero crossing just before the peak of the waveform.

I believe this is the arrangement John Bedini had on his 10 coiler when he was charging his 2000AH batteries. You will see it produces a super pole, n/s, s/n, n/s, s/n alternating AC arrangement.


Dave Wing