Well lets see:-
Does the solar output affect the earths climate? ---  yes.
Do greenhouse gases affect the earths climate? ---  yes.
Which is having the greatest affect?               ------we don't know for sure.

Which one can we do something about?          ------ I'll leave that one to you.
 

You are making two assumptions that are not well thought out.

The first assumption is that the earth has an ecological balance.  Things change and are not in balance and have not been since creation.

You are assuming that stopping the production of greenhouse gases will reverse the climate trend.  Absolutely false.

The permafrost is melting and will emit more CO2 than mankind could even think of producing.

To reverse global warming will take a number of proactive steps.

1. Sequester carbon and carbondioxide.
    A.  Injection and burial of carbon and CO2.
    B.  Encourage the production of limestone by sea organisms
    C.  Encourage photosynthesis by oceanic plankton

  Plankton off of California have decreased 80% since 1940. Sea birds and fish are starving to death.  The sea recycles the majority of CO2.  Without restoring the plankton, reduction of greenhouse gas emissions is futile.  It may slow things very slightly, but will not have much impact.

Hi Gearhead,
No I'm not making either of those asumptions, I just did'nt want to start getting into too many details.

The world is in a constant flux. Ecolgical balance does occur to a degree before environmental change happens, and a new balance eventually forms, only to be desturbed again.

Cutting down on greenhouse gasses will not immediately reverse the affects of global warming, it will not even slow it down for 30 or 40 years due to the buffering affect of the oceans.

The melting of permafrost will produce co2, but more impotantly methane (which is a far more powerfull greenhouse gas) thus exacerbating the problem.

The decline in phytoplankton is a problem. 20% world decline since 1990. As far as I am aware this is at least partially caused my stratospheric ozone depletion which increases the amout of shortwave radiation, hamfull to the plankton. So we need to look at whats still causing ozone depletion, ie cfc's (yes they're still being used) and aircraft exhausts. Iron seeding of the oceans is another option, to sucessfully stimulate plankton growth,  but must be used with care, as the full impications to widespread seeding are not known.

I agree that we need to encourage oceanic invertabrate growth. Co2 sequestriation is fine for the time being, but is only part of the solution.

We still need to cut pollution.


 

Study just released:

Global warming a bunch of hooey!!!

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57253

Guess we won't be sunbathing in the Arctic anytime soon.

Environmental extremists (Al Gore, for example, who certainly won't sacrifice his excessive lifestyle but wants you to sacrifice yours) would probably say the writers of this report are just a bunch of greedy, evil, ignoramus, non-scientists trying to fool us all.

Too bad these guys, unlike Gore, are REAL scientists.

It would take another 10,000 years before we could effect the world in such a manner that it would go into an ice age or warm to the point that we definitely could observe. the planet has natural cycles it warms it cools. I would say sun flares would be the culprit not us. 

 The problem is...  What tall tale do you want to believe today?

 Scientist are often paid off, or shut up.   Spoof science is often
created.   There are scientist that are simply wrong or missing
data... OR their data has been tampered with without their
knowledge.

 We know there is drastic changes.  Thats plain and simple.

 The true cause of them is unknown.

 Pollution, is nasty.  Its bad for us to breath in.  Bad for our
environment as it soaks into our soil, water, food chain,
animal and insect life.   End of story, it should be abolished.

 However, alternative energy will not be allowed, because the
huge losses of money that fund the NWO would be lost.
Therefore, loss of power and absolute control.

 They will cook us and live underground before they fail.

the problem is not related to pollution, its what the gov want you to believe.

the planet niburu was found in 1983, they told us, then denied right after, why? the planet orbit on our solar system on each 3600 years, unfortunitly in 2012 the planet will pass between earth and mars and will prob finish up this world, the planet is visible from the eye in day light from the south pole, we should be able to see it in middle of may 2009, so little time to do something, and all the gov know about it since 1983!

you will see in the next 1-2 years thing will go worse and its not related to pollution. They dont told the truth because that will stop the peoples to work and stuffs they don t want to lose the control over us.

check this video you will like it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_7ctX-E4ew

Ya, there?s nooo problem with earth heating

?Experts say they are "stunned" by the loss of ice, with an area almost twice as big as the UK disappearing in the last week alone. ?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2007/sep/04/climatechange

British High Court rules that there are 11 serious inaccuracies in Al Gore's "An Inconvenient Truth"

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58111

I especially like #11, which is an outright LIE!!!

How inconvenient are these truths indeed!!

Don't expect him to change his lifestyle, but he sure wants you to change yours!