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Offline argona369

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Global Warming, unstoppable
« on: February 02, 2007, 06:57:38 AM »
We?re cooked. Figuratively and literally,,,


?The panel predicted temperature rises of 2-11.5 degrees Fahrenheit by the year 2100?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070202/ap_on_sc/france_climate_change


update: link no longer working,

google  "The panel predicted temperature rises of"


« Last Edit: August 23, 2007, 04:51:34 AM by argona369 »

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Global Warming, unstoppable
« on: February 02, 2007, 06:57:38 AM »

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Re: Global Warming, unstoppable
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2007, 12:40:39 PM »
Just an alarmist report issued by a bunch of socialist, power-hungry elite. Just look who sponsored it. The United Nations. The biggest bunch of New World Order / World Government promoters that ever existed on the planet.

They want to control your freedom, population, energy usage, military and wealth.

The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

Watch the video, and see the truth:

http://www.oism.org/oism/s32p686.htm

Then, if you are a scientist with at least a BS education, please sign the online petition.

« Last Edit: February 07, 2007, 06:36:06 PM by ResinRat2 »

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Re: Global Warming, unstoppable
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2007, 05:31:18 PM »
Just an alarmist report issued by a bunch of socialist, power-hungry elite. Just look who sponered it. The United Nations. The biggest bunch of New World Order / World Government promoters that ever existed on the planet.

They want to control your freedom, population, energy usage, military and wealth.

The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

Watch the video, and see the truth:

http://www.oism.org/oism/s32p686.htm

Then, if you are a scientist with at least a BS education, please sign the online petition.



You just have to look at the artic shelf
To see that something drastic is happening.

Abstract
http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/2007/2006GL027977.shtml

so what there talking about is vast reservoirs of methane ice, a greenhouse gas.
The worry is that this will start to gas as the ocean?s temperature Increases. the problem is that it could ?run away?

Ice shelf?s
"It is consistent with climate change," Vincent said, adding that the remaining ice shelves are 90 percent smaller than when they were first discovered in 1906.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2003500731_webiceshelf29.html


Btw, the story from the link I originally put up changed
So here is the original story (mostly the same though)

?The world's leading climate scientists? ,,,,,  "It's very conservative?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070202/ap_on_sc/france_climate_change_31

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Re: Global Warming, unstoppable
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2007, 05:31:18 PM »
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Offline AhuraMazda

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Re: Global Warming, unstoppable
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2007, 06:06:18 PM »
Resinrat2,
How do you explain spring weather in January?
There are greedy vicious people and organizations who would twist everything to their advantage global warming or cooling.

I am afraid we are all on the edge of slippery slope even, the people who manipulate the governments and the financial systems.

Global warming may or may not be due to human activities but pollution and willful destruction of the earth definitely is.

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Re: Global Warming, unstoppable
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2007, 01:56:57 AM »
Its very easy for us all to speculate and have opinions, but those things are not important to the issue. The real important issue is there are many things in action right now that could have the potential to wipe out the human race as we know it. While we are believed to be the most advanced form of life to ever inhabbit this planet, we are also equally as vournable as any other species. If the end is coming it won't be evil men who doom us all, it'll be our own apathy...

~Dingus

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Re: Global Warming, unstoppable
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2007, 01:56:57 AM »
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Re: Global Warming, unstoppable
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2007, 01:48:43 PM »
Not everyone agrees:

http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/global-warming020507.htm

Over 17000 scientists have signed the petition so far:

http://www.oism.org/oism/s32p31.htm

It takes much more evidence to conclude the so called "fact" of global warming.

Just don't give away your freedoms so easily. Everybody who says they are your friend is not necessarily so.

Over the last week in the Midwest USA it has been in the teens and below zero (Degrees F.) We are freezing our bald spots off.

The easiest way to get people to give away their freedoms is with alarmist propaganda. Do you want the United Nations to control YOU! I know I sure don't.

That's why I am here. I want to help develop the energy sources that will free mankind from these power hungry lunatics; and I mean EVERYBODY. Poor nations, rich nations, and every nation in between. Energy influences wealth, freedom, war, and human technological advancement.

We need much, much more long-term data than is available right now. Just relax, and try to get us all off the energy-slavery system.

Thank you for your interest.

« Last Edit: February 07, 2007, 03:52:43 PM by ResinRat2 »

Offline Dingus Mungus

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Re: Global Warming, unstoppable
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2007, 10:21:18 PM »
Well not all of us are talking about 'man made' global warming. I'm under the assumption that while greenhouse gasses can build up and trap photons in the atmosphere, I'm more worried about the polar shift and ocean dead spots.

UN, WTO, NWO; They're all trying to cripple our sovernty, but don't let that fool you in to believing they aren't willing to watch the world cook to control the populations.

~Dingus

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Re: Global Warming, unstoppable
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Offline AhuraMazda

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Re: Global Warming, unstoppable
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2007, 12:59:55 AM »
Well not all of us are talking about 'man made' global warming. I'm under the assumption that while greenhouse gasses can build up and trap photons in the atmosphere, I'm more worried about the polar shift and ocean dead spots.

UN, WTO, NWO; They're all trying to cripple our sovernty, but don't let that fool you in to believing they aren't willing to watch the world cook to control the populations.

~Dingus

If you beleve in UN, WTO, NWO's intentions, you then know their success will be short lived. I in fact look forward to the pole shift and the magnetic field flipping.

AM

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Re: Global Warming, unstoppable
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2007, 11:02:52 PM »
Personally I think the sooner we stop polluting the better. Global warming may be unstoppable, or maybe not. After Studying global warming on and off for 20 years, all I can say is the obvious: pollution of the air, land or water, if we do it enough, can and will have an effect on the environment which we are kind of reliant upon. So lets stop polluting now, and stop waiting to see how hot it gets before we realize we've f**ked up and we really should have done something about it years ago.

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Re: Global Warming, unstoppable
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2007, 11:02:52 PM »
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Re: Global Warming, unstoppable
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2007, 12:54:46 AM »
I would also have to agree with Steve. Even if the world isn't heating up, we are draining a much needed natural resource, and pollution may be responsible for more problems than just the climate.

~Dingus

No matter what, its time for change!

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Re: Global Warming, unstoppable
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2007, 01:55:45 AM »
Just for the record.

The implication is always that anyone opposed to Kyoto type controls is a reckless and selfish ignoramus who doesn't give a bit about the planet. Let me tell you that I have studied this issue far more than you can imagine. I also have a son, who I want to grow up and raise a family some day; but I also know human nature. There are evil and power-hungry people in offices of government and power that want nothing more than to control every aspect of your lives. This is no "conspiracy-theory" paranoid thinking. It is a realistic view of the world. Anyone who believes that people in government and oil-money influence can conspiratorially stop over-unity research should be able to easily understand why the issue of so called global warming can be used to control everyone on the planet as well.

I don't want the planet poisoned with pollution either. Why do you think I am putting so much effort into hydrogen research? Just don't fall for the alarmist cries for more control over your lives. The easiest way to get people to give up their freedoms is with a crisis, and a global-death crisis is the scariest thing next to an atomic war. By the way, this morning I woke up to -7 deg.F temperatures. Here in the Midwest USA we are near record cold temps. We have people dying in the cold.

Once you give away a freedom, you NEVER get it back without a big fight. I agree it is time for change; but we still have time. The UN, WTO, etc. only care about controlling YOUR life. They will still be driving around in their big vehicles, eating their banquets and flying their private jets. Their freedoms won't be affected, but yours will; and you didn't elect a single one of them now did you? Just remember who you are listening to and dealing with.

One more thing. Get down on your knees, humble yourself, and ask Almighty God for guidance. If that destroys my credibility in your mind then think of it this way: It sure won't hurt you one way or the other, but it just might help us all.

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Re: Global Warming, unstoppable
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2007, 01:55:45 AM »
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Re: Global Warming, unstoppable
« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2007, 04:22:57 AM »
Your so right  Resonrat.. Meanwhile China the biggest contributor to pollution on this planet is exempt form all this. Europe and the north Americas are to lower there standard of living, Whilst china pollutes the planet and becomes the new "Rich nation" and super power, It is not pollution IMO, The earth gets warm and then it gets cool, Its been doing this since long before mankind walked on it. It just dose that. And no amount of government control over any one or thing is going to stop the next phase of mother earth's cycle. you would do just as well trying to outlaw asteroids, or solar flairs. Ice storms. earthquakes. Now there is an idea. Call your government and tell them you oppose any asteroid crashing in to earth. We need another international law!! Just my.02,     Moab

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Re: Global Warming, unstoppable
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2007, 07:26:40 AM »
OK we all agree we're against pollution and federal/international regulation. We also agree there needs to be a push for research in alternative energies. I feel that as long as industry feels the pinch the hardest it will stimulate research in the form of grants and real R&D of pollution free energy sources. While your right that we would loose a freedom, I feel this would further stimulate solar/wind/bio-diesel use in the average American household. You have to see that we will do what it takes to drive have electricity so imposing a ration would force people to start looking for a new source. I fully understand opposing this treaty, but the hardship it would cause I believe would better the world in the long run. Plus what are they going to do if we back out of it after signing... Bomb us? Doubt it... If the protocol does cripple our economy post ratification I'm sure we'd reject it before it caused any irreparable damage. Maybe I'm naive, but I still think it could do more good than harm.

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Re: Global Warming, unstoppable
« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2007, 11:46:36 AM »
I agree with you Moab. The sun activity warms and cools the earth with its natural tendancies. This is to be expected. Dr. Robinson's speech is excellent. He lays out the scientific methodology and the evidence specifically on the global warming issue, and he says it straight. "It fails the test". The evidence does not support the hypothesis. Please watch his speech, the video quality could have been better, but his reasoning as a scientist is as exact as a research mind should be.

It is the duty of every scientist to disprove his own theory/hypothesis. This is how research works. No theory is ever a Fact. It is always a theory because it is up to the scientific community to disprove it. Our changing knowledge drives this, and old theories fall, and new ones are developed.

One thing is a fact though, and our Founding Fathers of the USA knew that right. Government is Power; and once you give away your freedoms it is almost impossible to get them back without some type of chaos or fight. You didn't even elect these diplomats that want to control your life. So why would you want them to control you?
Please don't be so willing to surrender your freedoms to these power-hungry maniacs.

It's below zero here in the Midwest USA this morning. I'm going to need to cover every inch of exposed skin to keep from frostbite. My mom, in Michigan, was dumped on by a ton of snow a couple of days ago. Excuse me while I try and stay warm.

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Re: Global Warming, unstoppable
« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2007, 04:29:48 PM »
Well lets see:-
Does the solar output affect the earths climate? ---  yes.
Do greenhouse gases affect the earths climate? ---  yes.
Which is having the greatest affect?               ------we don't know for sure.

Which one can we do something about?          ------ I'll leave that one to you.

Hey I think I must be a global warming alarmist. I'm determined to erode peoples rights to pollute. Or maybe that should'nt be a right. Does that make me a mad facist? My evil plan envolves persuading everyone that the world is heating up from all the pollution we are making, and if we don't stop we're all going to fry to death. This way I can controll peoples minds, and make them do my bidding by just saying two words "GLOBAL WARMING." 

 

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