Hi All,

This is very interesting project that might show OverUnity

I'm working on a new design as a generator, could it be over unity?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyQwgBAaBag

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCsgoLc_fzI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUgajGv4Aok&t=0s

Tom

Cloxxki

I disagree.

If that was all cause by the wind, then explain how the treadmill experiment was able accelerate the trike wheels while the thrust from the propeller was moving it in opposite direction?

Tom


 

Quite simple really Tom

Look at how fast the treadmill is turning the wheels, and look how fast the trike is traveling up the treadmill.
Much like having a pushbike in top gear, where your feet are traveling a lot slower than the bike is along the road.


Brad

Brad,

I also disagree.

If that was the case of gears yes, but the thrust is what is moving it forward. Totally different physics then mechanical connections.

Try that with gears only, impossible!

Tom

It can be done with gears and wheels only.

If we look at the prop in the case of the treadmill, it is pushing against stationary air.
If we build a vehicle, where we have a wheel running on the treadmill bed, and we then run that wheel through a gearbox, and have a set of wheels linked to that gearbox output ,on the stationary part of the treadmill alongside the moving bed, then we could get that vehicle to climb up hill against the bed traveling downhill.

I did think it was an interesting effect when i first seen it, but also well within the laws of physics.

Cloxxki,

Please show me one video showing a mini car no mater how heavy or light it is moving forward on a treadmill with the front wheels power the back wheels to push it forward.
The wind thrust is totally different  then you think. It still takes power to rotate the propeller and you would need enough weight on the front axle to power it.

I will be waiting on a video where a mini car moves forward while get the power from the tread mill moving in opposite direction....

Tom

Brad,

I would like to see you create a car to move forward while the on tread mill moves it backward!

Nice challenge to do, prove it....

Tom

Would love to, but only one problem--> i don't own a treadmill lol.

Brad,

Go to a gym, like many people do.

Not a good excuse, nice try.

Tom

Tom
It is quite easy to push on a vehicle backwards, and have that vehicle go forward a greater distance than you pushed backward, using only gears and wheels. You don't need a treadmill to show this. I use to do it with lego cars years ago.


Brad

Brad,

"It is quite easy to push on a vehicle backwards, and have that vehicle go forward a greater distance than you pushed backward, using only gears and wheels. You don't need a treadmill to show this. I use to do it with lego cars years ago"

Let me get the straight, you want to change the rules and take the treadmill off the table. That was my point from the beginning.

Looks like I have to explain it with pictures, even kids can understand.

Sorry Brad, but I have to be called you out as BS. Nice try.

When you put your geared Lego car on the treadmill, it will not move it forward with gears no matter how you want to believe it will work.

Tom

The air that the propeller pushes against in the treadmill buggy is not moving, so the wheels that also would push the buggy should also be on a part of the treadmill that is not moving. These wheels would be powered by another wheel that is being turned by the belt on the treadmill, then through a gearbox, and into the wheels sitting on the stationary part of the treadmill. The two are the same--the propeller pushes against stationary air, so with the wheel driven buggy, those wheels should also be pushing against a stationary medium. You cant have it both ways Tom, regardless of how confused you are about how the FDWTTW buggy works.

The propeller is simply a rotating sail, that due to it's pitch and rotation, its surfaces are effectively moving down wind slower than the wind.
You are simply gearing up the wind speed via the propeller, the very same way as you gear up a bike, so as your feet travel slower than the ground you are riding on.

And as far as your argument with Cloxxki go's about the physics professor go's, well some of these !so called! physicists have the simple things excape them some times, and obviously he was wrong.

So no Tom--no BS.

Brad

Some itches just can’t be scratched without a bit of elbow grease,
Or journey into the “what ifs”!


Myself ( being completely intrigued)
Quite curious about power in /power out measurements


Here we dabble in all manner of outside the box ,


Greatful that Tom puts efforts beyond the keyboard..( as do many others in open source community)
You just never know ….


 His design reminds me of a chaotic gyroscope device that Tinsel Koala
Had shared some images of years back,( was an incredible build)


He said it did “other worldly things” (his opinions.. not the scientists who commissioned the build)
There was no convincing TK otherwise ( always a bit itchy …


You just never know what can happen with outside the box “what ifs” ?
After all ,
This young woman’s efforts got us here
Approximately 12:50 mark


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VUgajGv4Aok&t=0s
Bringing generators and motors into this ….
Is just a cool evolution of the “what ifs”
And opportunity for measuring ( honing

Respectfully
Chet K