Hello Hazem,

Is this just a theoretical design or do you have a working model?

Looks interesting.

D²

Hello Hazem,

Is this just a theoretical design or do you have a working model?

Looks interesting.

D²

Hello dsquared18,

It is still a theoretical design, but I am planning to use Autodesk Inventor to test it digitally. This machine needs more explanation to understand it fully, I will post more details soon.

Regards

Hello everyone,

The following figures illustrates more about the elliptical orbit along with mass A and the universal bearing that holds mass B lever arm tip. Every figure represent a 90 degrees rotation and shows the new position of mass A and universal bearing. It also illustrates how elliptical orbits generate. The following figures also clarify the elliptical paths of mass A and lever arm tip and how they are perpendicular to each other ( Mass A elliptical orbit (the red one) is shifted 90 degrees from lever arm tip orbit (the blue one). This perpendicularity relation between the two paths is very crucial and essential for this machine to achieve what it was designed for. The centrifugal force of mass A acts as a centripetal force for mass B (the one connected to the lever arm). Without mass A, the drive motor (input motor) will be forced to draw a lot of power to yield such centripetal force and hence the machine will fail to achieve its goal. When mass B locates at the far way of the elliptical orbit (apoapsis), mass A will be at the closest point of center of rotation as shown in the figures, and hence its centrifugal force will be at its maximum strength while mass B at its minimum. I will explain more about this design later Inshallah.

Regards

Hazem

HI BRO IT HAS ALREADY BEEN INVENTED AND DONE .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxIRaJlTD4Y

Hello seychelles, I hope you are safe and doing well.

There are a lot of differences between this machine and Mr. Skinner's machine. I will not go in such debate because patents is not one of my concerns at the moment. This machine is free to build and use by anyone anywhere in the world. It is completely open source project. I will put more details about it as soon as possible inshallah.

Regards

Nice design and drawings. You're very close to having them into a dynamic simulator that can present test results, it seems? Years ago such tools well available to people with your design skills.

What path does the combined mass of the two weights follow? In a practical sense, would to or more systems need to be combine to balance out? With two eliptical orbits at significant rpm...seems jarring...?
However great an energy system is, it's would be a bit self defying if a 1kg machine needed a ton of mass to kind of hold it steady, or reinforce the cogs and struts to have any sorts of life span.

What phenomenon is to bring in the excess energy? I understand the design aims to extract centrifugal force from one mass to drive the other. How does that create a gain? A centrifugal force of A used to drive B will diminished the kinetic energy of A, would it not? When we stand and hold a heavy barbell in each hand, and around our axis at 20 rpm, and then lift the barbells, our spin will diminish, right? Why would such not happen in the device?

How does 1 W become 70W?
Just makeing 1 W into 1.5 W would be plenty in such a setup, we'd daisy chain and loop the heck out of it and create and energy sigularity of sorts

Hello Cloxxki, I hope you are doing well.



A lot of questions to answer here. I will try to answer them one by one.

What path does the combined mass of the two weights follow? In a practical sense, would to or more systems need to be combined to balance out? With two elliptical orbits at significant rpm...seems jarring...?

The first part of your question implies  that you are misunderstanding some basic concepts of this machine. Mass A and Mass B cannot be combined. Their only relationship is centrifugal and centripetal forces.



Mass A and mass B are completely independent of each other in terms of rotation. At certain time, mass A has more velocity than mass B, and at other instances of time, mass B has more velocity than mass A (This alternating behavior of velocity is dependent on their exact location in the elliptical orbit ). Regarding balance, the machine is completely balanced through 180 degrees of rotation and it is unbalanced in the other 180 degrees (as the above figures imply). To solve this issue, we should add another identical but shifted 90-degree machine to the first one, and those two machines should be connected to the same drive motor (input motor). This design will make this extended machine balanced through 360 degrees of rotation. This machine is not designed for high RPM and frankly it should not be. A maximum of 120 RPM is more than enough, and if you build a big enough machine, you might be able to talk about mega watts of power not kilo watts.

What phenomenon is to bring in the excess energy? I understand the design aims to extract centrifugal force from one mass to drive the other. How does that create a gain? A centrifugal force of A used to drive B will diminished the kinetic energy of A, would it not? When we stand and hold a heavy barbell in each hand, and around our axis at 20 rpm, and then lift the barbells, our spin will diminish, right? Why would such not happen in the device?

This question is logical if the two masses were rotating in circular orbits. The beauty of elliptical orbits is that their masses charge and release energy every quarter of rotation respectively (90 degrees of rotation). So, even if we remove mass B from the system, mass A will release its energy (kinetic energy) anyway when going away from the center of rotation, which as you may have guessed by now, is a waste of resources. If you know planetary science, then you observe that a planet is losing its velocity when it is heading away from its center of rotation (the sun, for example), and gaining back its velocity when it is heading back towards its center of rotation. In short, Mass A will lose its (kinetic energy) with or without the existence of mass B. Drive motor rotates mass A in certain 2 opposite quarters, mass A is charged now with kinetic energy. Mass A releases its kinetic energy in the other 2 quarters in the form of a centripetal force that attracts mass B violently. Mass B reacts quickly to this centripetal force by acquiring kinetic energy and increasing its velocity while heading towards the center of rotation. This reaction of mass B will create a considerable amount of torque on the output shaft.

How does 1 W become 70W?

I hope you can now at least have some clues or hints to answer this question yourself. If not, then please wait for the dynamic simulation of this machine which I am planning to make and it will take me some time to be frank with you.

Thanks  Hazem for sharing!

Hopefully some similar charts can be simulated. Thank you!

You are welcome panyuming. Yes, I am planning to make a dynamic simulation using Autodesk inventor and posting the result along with charts similar to yours. But this will take some time since I have to learn how to deal with such technology.

Hi Hazem

I built two devices using a similar CF principle. I used bike gears and chain instead of meshing gears (on the larger device I built) In the end I had a problem latching it at 60rpm, which was the ideal speed to lift a suitable secondary weight into over-balance.

https://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=187751#p187751
(Sorry, have to create account at BW.com to see)