I've been wanting to make this proposal for a long time, I couldn't decide on the following:

My first difficulty is the language issue, since I have to use Google translate (I don't have an adequate command of English), and I fear that the ideas that I want to present to you cannot be interpreted.

The second is that I wanted to accompany my proposal with graphics, so that it would be better understood, but I have not managed to have enough time for it.


So I will try to express it the best I can.



LET US BEGIN
Everyone knows that resonant systems are a more efficient option than the classic Faraday electrolysis system.
For simplicity, I will focus on Stanley Meyer's system (but I consider it to be applicable to other resonant systems as well).


PARALLELISM: BELL
Let's imagine the ringing of a church bell, a set of multiple acoustic frequencies is emitted with great intensity and long duration.

Now imagine that same bell is submerged under the water of a lake, and we ring it with the same force.
Would the sound be the same? Would it be more or less intense? Will the bell vibration duration be maintained?

Obviously not!
The high density of the water (with respect to the air environment) would imply a drastic change in terms of duration, vibration and intensity of the bell, since it would hardly be heard, and it would soon stop vibrating.

MAXIMIZE EFFICIENCY
In Stanley Meyer's standard methods, the resonant tubes are submerged in water. So the resonant energy (whether it is considered electrical/vibrational) coming from the power supply, is dispersed throughout the contents of the vessel (mostly water).



Bearing in mind that the "active" part where the HHO has to be produced is located in the narrow space between the two tubes.
Wouldn't it be more efficient for the water to circulate solely and exclusively through the interspace between tubes?

I think that with this premise, there is no need to explain anything else, because you will come up with a thousand and one ways to prove that (if you wish), surely you have more experimental experience than me, but I share my idea:

-I imagine the inner tube with plugs on both sides (to prevent the entry of water in an "unproductive" place, and possibly being empty it can generate more resonance),

-We will connect a small hose to the lower end of each resonant unit, and the other end will be connected to a pump that passes the minimum essential flow in the active part of HHO generation (the space between the two tubes).

NOTE: Obviously driving the pump requires power, but keep in mind that we are in an experimental process (perhaps we can remedy this problem with higher system efficiency).


We regulate the minimum flow rate of the pump, which is sufficient for the water to reach the closest level to the upper level of the tube, and if there is an excess of water, it will fall to the bottom of the vessel, as a feed tank for the pump.




Trying this system should not imply big changes for those who are already experimenting with the classic Stanley Meyer system (with submerged tubes).

Basically:
Raise the tubes a little so that they are not submerged in the water.
The lower part of the vessel (below the level of the tubes), would serve to store a small amount of water (small, but enough, for the water to circulate in the "active" part between the tubes).
Connect the small pump with your hose. The pump will rest at the bottom of the vessel, where it is fed with water.






I end this part, if necessary I will edit this message to update and improve this text, adding your suggestions.


I will reserve 3 or 4 next posts, where I will ask you a question, and I will present other ideas that provide more improvements, but that are related to this one.

Post in preparation

NOTE: I made my first participation in the forum with this entry:

https://overunity.com/19493/01-optimization-for-hho-resonant-systems-meyeretc/

Before continuing editing the rest that I had in mind, I would like to know if it is visible, since I do not see any type of movement, if someone could give some signal, to check, it would be appreciated.

Maybe I have a wrong configuration.

Thank you.

Greetings!
Your messages are visible, but write something on the topic you specified.

I have a sick family member that I would like to treat with HHO.
From what I've read, a minimum flow of 1 L/minute is needed.

This sounds dangerous.
Doctors usually treat, guided in their actions on the basis of thousands of years of knowledge and many animal tests, etc.

Even if the method is harmless but useless, it is also dangerous.
A sick person will hope for a cure and will not turn to a doctor who could cure or help him.

My question (Although they have not achieved the overunity):
Have you managed to generate 1l/minute of HHO from distilled water with any of your systems?

You can probably choose the material of the electrodes and the composition of the electrolyte so that it does not contain hazardous substances, for example, use carbon electrodes and a solution of ordinary baking soda in a refrigerated vessel.
Then the gases must be filtered and dried. But I don't see any practical use in it.

You can search Google for hydrogen water. Some devices are sold to receive it, tablets, etc.
I am skeptical about this "treatment".

I think that what I explained in the first post is already something to consider as a more than probable improvement in the effectiveness of the process.

Too mystifying resonance.
Stanley Meyer is not confirmed, in the form as he described in the patents, nothing still works. :'(

If you use water as a spring in a mechanical resonator, the vibrations will create areas of high and low pressure in the water.
If the pressure drops below the boiling pressure at the current temperature of the water, a gap is formed, a bubble of water vapor.

If you use electrical resonance, then it occurs with alternating current. On alternating current with a frequency above approximately 10 Hz, there is no significant outgassing other than water vapor and useless heating.

Therefore, as a result of many unsuccessful experiments on the topic of Meyer, I came to the conclusion that an additional intermediary is needed, which will interact with the hidden energy source.

...well, firstly... the topic is interesting and I would like to contribute with my opinion, as a developer/experimenter/inventor of electronic systems and in this topic in particular, "experimenter of everything that is efficient production of HHO (Oxygen and Hydrogen) from pure water".. NONE of projects with conventional electrolysis (using electrolytes) of those are more than saturated with information and systems that you can find in a couple of seconds on Google..

Let's get to what's interesting:

1st - If you need HHO or Hydrogen for therapeutic use, don't waste your time on developments... go directly to AliExpress and buy an H2 generation system for water, suggested concentration 5,000 ppm, and that's it! You will avoid many problems and will be able to help whoever needs it in a much faster and safer way!

2° - Electrotechnical RESONANCE systems for the production of HHO, are extremely efficient as long as you know what you are doing... and understand, at least WELL, what you are doing and what you need

3°- I will make another POST in a couple of weeks, I prefer to have everything I am developing and populating READY in order to generate the least number of doubts in the group... since the objective is not COMMERCIAL with the system, in my case, and yes help other interested/curious/inventors/developers/etc with whatever "Production of OxyHydrogen by electronic resonance"

4°- The issue of "minimizing" the contact of pure water with the walls of the tubes, the exterior part, is of utmost importance for better efficiency... however, I suggest that you use some type of Resin/Varnish for that... .simpler..

5°- to finish and as I told you, I will return to make a more SPECIFIC post on the subject of my project, which I assure you, ANY person, who has MOTIVATION, INTEREST, DEDICATION will be able to replicate it... however, knowledge is necessary intermediate/advanced electronics skills for such activity.

...I hope you can help your family member with that, it is actually very very good/effective for health as an antioxidant to use Hydrogen in health, be it in water, making the ORP higher or making the water you are going to take more ALKALINE... in addition to other benefits... Do not give up... HHO as such is dangerous in high concentrations, but you do not need 1LPM (1 liter per minute) to obtain benefits... as I told you, there is very efficient and low-cost commercial equipment... which is also much more economical than building a personal "HHO generator"...

Supply everyone... we will talk about those topics again and mainly I will share with you and I want to help everyone achieve what I have achieved!

Peace!