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Infomaniac

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IT REALLY FRICKIN WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« on: January 30, 2007, 01:29:22 AM »
Ok Guys, This is not a bragging session at all, But I have honestly put the finishing touches on a 12 Year project and can now safely say without any doubt, PERPETUAL MOTION CAN AND DOES ACTUALLY EXIST!!!!! I have been following this forum for a long time and can say that many, many times I have been ready to quit and then I'll read someone's nerve calming statements, and I draw a deep breath and simply continue on. Now, this device is somewhat similar in concept to E.L.S.A. from Jon Herring, but operates somewhat differently. I can tell you also that I will not be a hoarder of technology, That is why I have come out here on a public network seeking the advice of my peers. Please give me some honest feedback on how to proceed so that, not only will anyone be able to duplicate the results, But also so that THE MAN doesn't try to kill it or me!! Of course it would be great to be recognized, But free energy for the planet is my Primary Focus. As soon as I get some honest discussions going on, I will post Video of the machine running and be prepared to release technical specs. I will say this right now. My table top prototype stands approx 30" tall and 12" round. It can be stalled by hand, then when released, immeidiatly it returns to operating speed. Energy output at this scale is approx 3.5 watts, but can absolutly be scaled infinatly. I'm sorry, getting ahead of myself. Please let me know HONESTLY how you would do this, The world depends on this getting mainstream!! Thanks for all the nights of discussions and brain rattling. I'm SO EXCITED ABOUT THIS!! I'll be monitoring from anonimity, But I promise not for long. :o :o :o 8) 8) :o

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Re: IT REALLY FRICKIN WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2007, 01:37:17 AM »
Glad to hear you have something that really works.   Please share with video or photos and tell us more.

Bill

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Re: IT REALLY FRICKIN WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2007, 01:51:51 AM »
Congratulations  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

What I would do prior to disclosing is make a copy of all of the documents. Keep the copies and drop the originals in a package and ask your lawyer to hang on to them for you. You don't need to even tell him what is in the package. Once he accepts them they should be time stamped to prove when he received them. This should/might stop anyone else from patenting your device. You need to be aware that minor changes to the original design may not stop someone else from running with it but...

Once this is done, post it to as many sites as you can think of. Email, Snail Mail, YouTube, Local papers ...... Just get it out all over the place. You could even keep yourself unknown until some replications are made. Once it is proven and there are others out there with working devices, it will be of no use for the MIB to visit you.

Good Luck and thanks for sharing

Tim

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Re: IT REALLY FRICKIN WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2007, 02:24:10 AM »
The aproach I would use is:
1) Don't annouce it works...
2) get other members to replicate and confirm results...
3) give plans and specs out for free and encourage spreading it.

You may not make millions but at least the technology will be open source!

Those who make money get squashed (steve marks/tesla), those who hold out for more money get squashed (stan myers), those who hide details get squasher (stan myers), those who get world patents get squashed (to many to list). Only the people who give things away come away without a scratch, but notice there are none of those people to mention... Everyone fails against the greed... Thats why the SM TPU thread resembles a set of encyclopedias. No one ever discolses anything useful or we wouldn't be having this conversation.

If you have something useful do the right thing and give it to the world.
Don't wait and don't try to pull the attention of old money to yourself...
~Dingus

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« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2007, 05:04:42 AM »
@infomaniac

Perpetual motion does not have to produce any watts at all for it to be perpetual motion. The fact that the device can move continuously without any outer force is in itself a great accomplishment for anyone to achieve. The offshoot of this new movement can lead to so many other new movements, designs and devices, so don't worry about watts.

Your video should show the device isolated from any walls or any other connections going out or in. If on a table, it should be clearly shown that nothing is beneath the table. If on the floor, try and put it on a stand to lift it a bit off the floor ans show in your video that there is nothing underneath. Try and make your video with the viewers perspective and consider the viewer to be a 7 year old. Don't get to complicated as first impressions are important.

You can put a populary known object beside the device to give it some dimensional perspective. Try and get lighting of the object to achieve minimal shadows. Always ask yourself, is the video clear enough. When you are satisfied with the vision you are trying to introduce, we will appreciate your disclosure. Oh yeh, give your device a name, one or two maximum three words that best describes it.

If you want to register the time and date, just make a copy of your design and go to the post office and mail it to yourself by registered mail (you have to sign for it). The post stamp date is all you will need. Just keep the envelope in a safe place but don't ever open it.

Maybe lastly, try and have some good drawings available to show how to build it, otherwise you will be blasted with millions of questions. Try and make the explanation as precise and complete as possible so as to minimize any potential misunderstandings of how and why it works.

Some here will want to know the mathematical basis, but don't worry about that if you do not have the answers.

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« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2007, 11:38:50 AM »
Please posta convincing video with speaking to it and telling how
it works and what the parts are and upload it all over the Internet.

Many thanks in advance.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: IT REALLY FRICKIN WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2007, 12:38:10 PM »
yes the key here is to mass Open Source this project (with actual real life open source videos/pictures/parts...etc) as much as possible.

overunity.com is a good place to start but i don't know if it's the best place because it has been down a lot lately. anyways start here then go to www.osen.org or maybe www.freeenergynews.com or www.hackersclub.net ;) etc. the key is to mass distribute as much as possible. www.opensource.org www.xubuntu.org are also very good :)

peace

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« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2007, 03:42:53 PM »
Hi Infomaniac, Great work!

Personally I would not have spoken to the public about such a thing unless I had full replication plans to post immediately along with it. In fact I would first post the plans and after that say what it is. Because that way 'it can't be stopped'. You on the other hand have now made yourself vulnerable, (I?m speaking in a paranoid sense.) You can be stopped now before the world has the plans. 99.9% certain all will be fine though. So my advice is, release the info and do it quickly, and completely. Has to be complete and understandable. You don't want 100 people to build it from sloppy plans and be called a fraud because due to the sloppy plans they could not get it to work. This phase is critical.
All the best man!
Thanks for helping the world.

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Re: IT REALLY FRICKIN WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2007, 04:58:40 PM »
@infomaniac

If you want to register the time and date, just make a copy of your design and go to the post office and mail it to yourself by registered mail (you have to sign for it). The post stamp date is all you will need. Just keep the envelope in a safe place but don't ever open it.

Congratulations  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

What I would do prior to disclosing is make a copy of all of the documents. Keep the copies and drop the originals in a package and ask your lawyer to hang on to them for you. You don't need to even tell him what is in the package. Once he accepts them they should be time stamped to prove when he received them. This should/might stop anyone else from patenting your device. Tim

I think that the first idea is for establishing copyright.

The second idea will not work, I reckon. To prevent others patenting,
you need to disclose your invention.
Paul.

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Re: IT REALLY FRICKIN WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2007, 07:06:06 PM »
Dear Informaniac, hey if your device is as good as your name, it has to be brilliant.You have already sussed that open sourcing  is the way to go . Speed is of the essence. First establish copyright as previosly described.Once you have done that, why not apply for one or more of the free energy prizes, including 1,000,000 dollars from the James Randi Educational Foundation. You can still own it afterwards, and if you dont want the money, give it Oxfam or the charity of your choice. But get a move on, some of us cant wait to rerplicate it. Some of us are getting older and cant wait forever. Go for it Pal.....

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Re: IT REALLY FRICKIN WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2007, 07:16:30 PM »
Hi,
1. Use photobucket.com, for example, to host your photos then post an image link onto this forum.
This way you can build up your own album of photos like I have.
2. Post a simple explanation with your photos.
3. Write a detailed explanation in "Word" and use the drawing toolbar to create the simple drawings. Convert to pdf using primo-pdf or cute-pdf.
4. Post the Document on this forum.
5. Create your own forum on Google groups, post a web page outlining construction details.
6. Post a clear video on YouTube.
7. Neptune's comment about James Randi Education Foundation is wrong unless you have paranormal powers ;)
 
Example photo:
(http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m25/kingrs/meg_pulse.jpg)

Regards
Rob

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« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2007, 08:21:37 PM »
@ Paul-R
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If you want to register the time and date, just make a copy of your design and go to the post office and mail it to yourself by registered mail (you have to sign for it). The post stamp date is all you will need. Just keep the envelope in a safe place but don't ever open it.----------
this is not so good -------- because you can after cahnage the message.
even if it sealed !!

Make an print out give to copy and registring this (as same as the original )
from an attorney  better notary to confirm this script and date. Hold this
confirmation in hand if you trust not to store this to strainger peoples

It shown so : IF you selled this for "Million" , it comes FROM the marked
and you cant nothing puplice past. Iven not more work .
You take Money and the Word ist "sclave" longer to work to buy enery
« Last Edit: January 30, 2007, 11:10:39 PM by pese »

CLaNZeR

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« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2007, 09:35:22 PM »
Well done Infomaniac, I hope you have got what you claim, as what a brilliant result!

I have thought about this before and must admit it all depends if you want money or you want to share as opensource. If making money is your motive then go for it, but be carefull not to get it supressed such as others over history. Some good advise has been given here from the other members regards copyright etc etc

If you just wanted to get it public, but without you being tracked down and hushed before handing out the info. (Paranoid mode is good by the way, it is all right people saying it is old folk law and men in black do exist, but if they do then it your life that is gonna be effected, so play safe just in case)

To hand out the info you do not need to make it public, contact on PM regular members on these forums with the plan and agreement to make a working unit, then agree on the same day for all say 10 or 20 of you to release the info along with pictures and videos of working devices to the public, all declaring that they discovered the effect. Then after it is out, your claim to fame will emerge if that is indeed you what you desire, or your anonymous status again would stay if you wished.

Look forward to the details and hope this is just not another scam as so many before.

Regards

Sean.

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« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2007, 09:53:42 PM »
Hi again, RE James Randi. I read his page every week, and he has had a snipe at Free energy purveyors, so if your device contravenes current laws of Physics, you could qualify for a prize. With all that money at stake, why not ask?

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« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2007, 12:41:46 AM »
 :)
« Last Edit: February 06, 2007, 05:34:58 AM by Spherenot »